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    I suddenly have this idea when I saw this post in other section:

    Quote Originally Posted by Carpathian Wolf View Post
    No Jesus isn't the "image" of God. Jesus is God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They are seperate but one.

    Sort of how Light, Warmth and Sun are seperate things yet one.


    And Christ descended into death but since God can not die, death was defeated which is why we don't need hades anymore. The bond between God and man had been broken with the actions of Adam and Eve in which they chose to disobey. And because of it death entered the world. Christ vanquished death so that this bond could exist again. "God became man so that man may become (one with) God." ~ Saint Athanasius.

    It isn't about what the Quran said that moses believed. It is about the fact that the Quran claims itself along the same line of books as the old and new testament. And it is a long consistant theme throughout the old testament that anyone who died went to hades. If they were good they went to the bosom of abraham. And if they were reall good, say like Enoch, God would come down and pick them up to heaven.

    I know in the Quran it says that the old and new testament were tampered with although there is no evidence or proof of this from the quran. But at one point you can't keep saying "that's tampered with" since hades is such a strong consistant theme throughout the OT.
    That sounds exactly like how Tyrannid works - separated but one. Tyrannid, despite all its individual, is basically all parts of Hive Mind. Even those individual separated their mind is still Hive Mind, belongs only to one.

    So we can basically say each Tyrannid is father, son and Hive Mind.

    Hell, that is so Trinity...

    Edit: I cannot believe the animal faction in 40K is based on Catholics.
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    I think that is a case of looking for a link then finding one, to be honest.
    Unless I missed the bit in the Bible where Jesus ravaged the whole planet and stripped it completely of nutrients. Wouldn't surprise me, but I don't remember it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiyenyaa View Post
    I think that is a case of looking for a link then finding one, to be honest.
    Unless I missed the bit in the Bible where Jesus ravaged the whole planet and stripped it completely of nutrients. Wouldn't surprise me, but I don't remember it
    Na, in that case Jesus is just a Carnefix created by Hive Mind.

    A Carnifex cannot exterminate a whole planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post

    That sounds exactly like how Tyrannid works - separated but one. Tyrannid, despite all its individual, is basically all parts of Hive Mind. Even those individual separated their mind is still Hive Mind, belongs only to one.

    So we can basically say each Tyrannid is father, son and Hive Mind.

    Hell, that is so Trinity...

    Edit: I cannot believe the animal faction in 40K is based on Catholics.
    Hellheaven.... it would take me an incredibly long time to explain my reasons and analysis regarding the Holy Trinity, but the short answer is just no.

    I can see how you might think that, but that's not how Christianity works. If needed to, we can discuss this in the Ethos.

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    Sure, why not.

    I believe alot of people want to know what strange idea Trinity is.

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    And I thought they were based on ants/termites.

    If the Tyranids are based on Christianity then what is the Imperium of Man based on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    And I thought they were based on ants/termites.

    If the Tyranids are based on Christianity then what is the Imperium of Man based on?
    Heresy.

    Tyrannid is different than ants because they don't have their own thinking while ants have.

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    Ants operate as one individual super organism not so much as individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    Ants operate as one individual super organism not so much as individuals.
    They have operated in a group but they still have individual thought.

    Tyrannid has none; you can even argue every Tyrannid is the represent of Hive Mind (you don't say every ant is represent of queen right??).

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    Ants don't technically have any individual thought at all really, but each individual acts as a kind of free roaming cell as part of one single massive body. If you were to separate an ant from it's hive it would wander around aimlessly for bit then die, they just don't operate as individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    Ants don't technically have any individual thought at all really, but each individual acts as a kind of free roaming cell as part of one single massive body. If you were to separate an ant from it's hive it would wander around aimlessly for bit then die, they just don't operate as individuals.
    Na, now that is nonsense; ants do have individual thought, but living in a group benefit them more.

    They are more as a cooperative society rather than a biomass control by single-thought.

    The fact is that each Tyrannid is the represent of Hive Mind - ya each Tyrannid is not a puppet because they are, after all, come directly from Hive Mind so you can say they are part of Hive Mind.

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    Ants don't have thought they only react to stimuli, and it it the hive as a whole that reacts to stimuli and that determines the actions of the individual.

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    What christians have independent thought?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxton Hale View Post
    What christians have independent thought?
    Those Christians in Thirty Years War, obviously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    Ants don't have thought they only react to stimuli, and it it the hive as a whole that reacts to stimuli and that determines the actions of the individual.
    Wrong, ants have no collective consciouness to lead them; they know their own role, but they are not acting because a single mind to control them.

    Ants are basically more like human; in fact, it is fact that individual ant would react differently toward different situations.
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    So, I just did a crazy thing...

    I post same thing in Ethos...

    Now I have to prepare to face all heresy accuse and waves of unmerciful replies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxton Hale View Post
    What christians have independent thought?
    You do know that's a poorly constructed argument? If all Christians thought alike, you wouldn't have men of the likes of Newton or Galileo.

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    Thanny, I am waiting your Trinity explaination in Ethos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Thanny, I am waiting your Trinity explaination in Ethos...
    Sigh, I normally do not say this, but can it wait until another time? Although I am on summer vacation, I'm nevertheless busy at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    You do know that's a poorly constructed argument? If all Christians thought alike, you wouldn't have men of the likes of Newton or Galileo.


    Last edited by HansDuet; June 18, 2009 at 05:09 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    I suddenly have this idea when I saw this post in other section:



    That sounds exactly like how Tyrannid works - separated but one. Tyrannid, despite all its individual, is basically all parts of Hive Mind. Even those individual separated their mind is still Hive Mind, belongs only to one.

    So we can basically say each Tyrannid is father, son and Hive Mind.

    Hell, that is so Trinity...

    Edit: I cannot believe the animal faction in 40K is based on Catholics.
    Err....whhhaaat the ####.

    Interestingly i thought that the Tyranid works like the reapers in mass effect, to impose order and perfection to the spontaneous outburst of random evolution across the galaxy.
    Last edited by frontier-auxilia; June 18, 2009 at 05:08 AM.

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