Isn't this supposed to be in the pater familias forum for the curator/curator's assistant to move here, or do CdeC members proposing someone skip that step?
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Isn't this supposed to be in the pater familias forum for the curator/curator's assistant to move here, or do CdeC members proposing someone skip that step?
I was told by the curator (i think) to post it here. If you want I can dig through the threads and find it. The only reason they are posted there is because most users can't see this forum. Noone but the CdeC members, Curator, Curator assistance can see the thread in the PF. If you look back you will see members in the CdeC post canidates before.
It does not matter. I am glad to discussion the patron application no matter how it traveled to this spot. The pater familias is really a mail box slot for those without access to the site to submit the "mail".
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Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere
Weighing into threads with the steel capped boots on just because you disagree with my viewpoints, is just embarrassing.
Originally Posted by Hagar_the_Horrible
As you journey through life take a minute every now and then to give a thought for the other fellow. He could be plotting something.
Looking at the threads that I am able to view, he is definitely a person of great contributions, and has done a lot research of those mods to maintain authenticity and accuracy. A mod researcher is an essential part of most if not all mod teams, and their work comes through in the final product. Slightly flawed English (as well as its polite) and some opposition to spoilers, does not degrade him much in my eyes. y2day, if you could copy a few of his posts over, that would be even better in helping me to make my decision, but I'm leaning towards a yes.
researchers have a very high standard to meet, and copying out ofr history books to my mind doesn't meet it. I shall have to research his other contributions.
Fedayins jumping off Alamut fortress to their doom
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“The Old Man was called in their language aloadın. He had caused a certain valley between two mountains to be enclosed, and had turned it into a garden, the largest and most beautiful that ever was seen, filled with every variety of fruit. In it were erected pavilions and palaces the most elegant that can be imagined, all covered with gilding and exquisite painting. And there were runnels too, flowing freely with wine and milk and honey and water; and numbers of ladies and of the most beautiful damsels in the world, who could play on all manner of instruments, and sung [sic] most sweetly, and danced in a manner that it was charming to behold. For the Old Man desired to make his people believe that this was actually Paradise. So he had fashioned it after the description that Mahommet gave of his Paradise, to wit, that it should be a beautiful garden running with conduits of wine and milk and honey and water, and full of lovely women for the delectation of all its inmates. And sure enough the Saracens of those parts believed that it was Paradise! , “Now no man was allowed to enter the Garden save those whom he intended to be his ashıshın. There was a Fortress at the entrance to the Garden, strong enough to resist all the world, and there was no other way to get in. He kept at his Court a number of the youths of the country, from twelve to twenty years of age, such as had a taste for soldiering, and to these he used to tell tales about Paradise, just as Mahommet had been wont to do, and they believed in him just as the Saracens believe in Mahommet. Then he would introduce them into his garden, some four, or six, or ten at a time, having first made them drink a certain potion which cast them into a deep sleep, and then causing them to be lifted and carried in. So when they awoke, they found themselves in the Garden. “When therefore they awoke, and found themselves in a place so charming, they deemed that it was Paradise in very truth. And the ladies and damsels dallied with them to their hearts' content, so that they had what young men would have; and with their own good will they never would have quitted the place.
Alamut Fortress
“Now this Prince whom we call the Old One kept his Court in grand and noble style, and made those simple hill-folks about him believe firmly that he was a great prophet. And when he wanted one of his Ashishin to send on any mission, he would cause that potion whereof I spoke to be given to one of the youths in the garden, and then had him carried into his Palace. So when the young man awoke, he found himself in the Castle, and no longer in that Paradise; whereat he was not over well pleased. He was then conducted to the Old Man's presence, and bowed before him with great veneration as believing himself to be in the presence of a true prophet. The Prince would then ask whence he came, and he would reply that he came from Paradise! and that it was exactly such as Mahommet had described it in the Law. This of course gave the others who stood by, and who had not been admitted, the greatest desire to enter therein. “So when the Old Man would have any Prince slain, he would say to such a youth: "Go thou and slay So and So; and when thou returnest my angels shall bear thee into Paradise. And should'st thou die, nevertheless even so will I send my Angels to carry thee back into Paradise." So he caused them to believe; and thus there was no order of his that they would not affront any peril to execute, for the great desire they had to get back into that Paradise of his. And in this manner the Old One got his people to murder any one whom he desired to get rid of. Thus, too, the great dread that he inspired all Princes withal, made them become his tributaries in order that he might abide at peace and amity with them.”
Misyaf Castle, near Hama, Syria
MASYAF, Syria (Reuters) - Nestled at the foot of Syria's coastal mountains, an ancient citadel has been put on the tourist map by restoration and excavation that revealed mysteries of the medieval Assassins sect, once based here.
Alamut Castle, near Qazvin, Iran
The Garden of Alamut
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The principle story of the Garden of Alamut is taken from Marco Polo. An
initiate who is selected for an assassination is drugged and taken to a garden
or valley close to Alamut where he spends a night thinking he is being given a
taste of paradise. Here he is given a taste of sensuous delights such as
fountains flowing with milk, honey, wine and a full assortment of houris,
virgins promised in the Koranic Paradise. After a night in this paradise, the
Assassin was again drugged an told that he would spend an eternity in this
paradise once he completed his mission.
A close inspection of the area surrounding will quicky show that this it is
highly unlikely that the Garden was a physical garden of this world. The terrain
in this area is arid, rocky and at an altitude that would not support the
vegetation that was described in the chronicles of Marco Polo. The Garden if it
did exist was either an allegory for some sort of initiation ceremony or the
garden was part of a spiritual vision to which the candidate was given access
to.
Something like this
The Magickal System of the Assassins
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The mystical system of the Assassins was based upon a series of ritual
initiations. In these initations the candidates were slowly taught the secrets
of the sect while at the same time each one of the initiations proved that what
the candidate had been led to believe as the supreme truth was in fact a lie. So
in each subsequent initiation, the beliefs or teachings of the previous were
destroyed.
This is another reason for attributing to the Old Man of the Moutains the phrase
"Nothing is True, Everything is permitted", and this sort of belief and
dis-belief is used in modern chaos schools where a particular belief structure
is employed while it is useful only to crumble later. This ultimately leaves the
initiate with a peculiar and singular view of the Universe.
As has been stated earlier the the name Assassin is derived from consumer of
Hashish, and it has been rumoured that they were called this because of the use
of Hashish in their ceremonies. While this is not unlikely it is also probably
that the altitute alone would have produced the same dizzy euphoria and blood
shot eyes accompanied with hashish use. This ecstatic trance or use of hashish
in rituals would also have been similar to the rituals of other dervish or sufic
sects at the same time.
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The Alamut Period
Nasir-i Khusraw’s death in the final decades of the eleventh century coincides with another phase of Ismaili history when scholars produced works of philosophical and religious significance in a completely different setting - the mountainous regions of northern and north-eastern Persia. Associated with the name of Hasan-i Sabbah, who was himself a learned scholar, the Nizari Ismaili state centred on the fortress of Alamut maintained a sophisticated outlook and placed a high value on intellectual activities. With the establishment of the Nizari state in 1090, the Ismailis created impressive libraries, containing not only important collections of religious and philosophical texts, but also scientific treatises and instruments.
Rawdat al-taslim, by Nasir al-Din al-Tusi
Persian manuscript, dated 1353/1935
Divided into twenty-eight chapters or representations (tasawwurat), this is a comprehensive treatise expounding Ismaili doctrines of the Alamut period. Matlub al-mu’minin, by Nasir al-Din al-Tusi
Persian manuscript, 13th/19th century
This short treatise was written at the fortress of Alamut or Maymundiz, at the request of a noble lady from the household of the Ismaili Imam. Among eminent Muslim scholars who availed themselves of the patronage of the Ismaili rulers was Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, who spent three decades with the Ismailis, composing treatises on philosophy, theology, ethics, and astrology. It was during this time that he produced his great works on ethics, the Akhlaq-i Nasiri and the Akhlaq-i Muh’tashami, the Matlub al-mu’minin, a short treatise written at the request of a noble lady from the household of the Ismaili Imam, as well as the Rawdat al-taslim, a comprehensive work on the Ismaili teachings of the Alamut period. The onslaught of the Mongols in the mid-13th century brought about the collapse of the Nizari state. An eyewitness account of the destruction of the Ismaili state is included in the Ta’rikh-i jahan-gusha of the historian of the Ilkhanid period, ‘Ata-Malik Juwayni, who, after examining and removing a number of important texts from the library at Alamut, consigned it to flames. Matlub al-mu’minin, by Nasir al-Din al-Tusi
Persian manuscript, dated 1309/1891
The four chapters in this brief treatise provide a summary of the epistles of an earlier Ismaili Imam, as well as of other texts. Vellum document
Six lines of text, 11th/17th century or earlier
According to ‘Ata-Malik Juwayni, the court historian of Helagu Khan, Hasan-i Sabbah acquired the fortress of Alamut from a certain individual named Mahdi, and gave a draft of 3,000 gold dinars as the price of the castle. The vellum document is deemed to be a later copy of this draft. Tarikh-i jahan gusha, by ‘Ata-Malik Juwayni
Persian manuscript, dated 697/1297
In the third volume of his Ta’rikh, Juwayni included a history of the Ismailis of Persia, on the basis of the chronicles and documents which he found in the famous library at Alamut, shortly before its destruction by the Mongols. Gold coins minted at Alamut
Only a few coins, known to have been minted at Alamut, have survived. This small group (6th/12th and 7th/13th centuries) of gold quarter and fractional dinars are from the reigns of the Imams al-Hasan II and ‘Ala’ al-Din Muhammad III ibn Hasan.
Hasan bin Sabbah (1034-1124) took possession of the fort of Alamut in Iran in 1090. His immediate concerns were to refortify Alamut, provide for it food and water supply, irrigate the field in the valley, acquire adjacent castles, erect forts at strategic points, institute economic and social reforms and unite the Ismailis by bonds of fraternity. Thus, he succeeded to establish the Nizarid Ismailis rule in Alamut. It appears from the fragments of the historical sources that, the Ismailis continued green colour as their standard, and Hasan bin Sabbah is reported to have hoisted it for the first time on the summit of the Alamut.
Alamut
The Alamut valley lies in the Alburz mountain range, in the north of modern-day Iran, half way between Tehran and the Caspian Sea. The castle is built on a narrow ridge on top of a high rock in the heart of the mountains and dominating an enclosed valley, about 25 kilometres in length. More than 6,000 feet above sea level, the castle lies several hundred feet above the base of the rock, and could only be reached by a narrow, steep and winding path. The approach to the rock was through the narrow gorge of the Alamut river, between perpendicular and sometimes overhanging cliffs. Timeline
Legend associates the original building of the castle of Alamut with one of the kings of Daylam.
In 246 / 860, the castle was rebuilt by a local ‘Alid ruler and by the time it was captured by Hasan Sabbah (d. 518 / 1124) in 483 / 1090, it was still in the possession of local ‘Alids.
After its capture, Hasan Sabbah largely rebuilt Alamut in the years shortly after 483 / 1090.
Alamut surrenders to the Mongol armies at the end of Dhu’l-Qa‘da 654 / December 1256. Soon after its capture, the Mongol armies attempt to dismantle the once impregnable fortress.
Small groups of Ismailis who had survived the Mongol invasions attempted to recapture Alamut in 1275 and again in 1389, but their attempts are shortlived.
During medieval times, local feudal lords took possession of the parts of the valley of Alamut and some of the castles were rebuilt.
In the seventeenth century, the castle of Alamut was used as a state prison.
Alamut Gorge
Hasan-i- Sabbah deliberately chose the Alamut Valley as his headquarters because of its remoteness and inaccessibility. The western entrance shown in this slide is often flooded by the waters of the Alamut Rud joining the Taliqan Rud which runs at the foot of the high mountains separating the Alamut and Taliqan valleys.
Castle of Alamut
The double water cistern of Alamut cuts across the whole of the southern face.
Alamut Gorge The steep defile at the western entrance to the valley is also defended by two forts constructed on each side of the 350 metres high cliffs. The eastern end of the valley is completely blocked by the Alamkum/Takht-e-Suleyman mountain knot. To the north and south are mountain ranges up to 3,500 metres.
Castle of Alamut
The back of the fortress of Alamut which provided the only entrance to the castle. Hasan Sabbah constructed huge underground storage chambers to keep the garrison in food water during times of siege. Ruins of the castle can also be seen.
Castle of Alamut
A view of the double water cistern of Alamut which cuts across the whole of the southern face.
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Originally Posted by Rev.
NO,i have none ,i know nothing about Sultanate of Rum,does sultanstates RUM means Seljuk?
The strongest of the Seljuk states was the Sultanate of Rum (pronounced Rome) which had its capital at Iconium (Konya). At it's height the Sultanate held a vast area of Anatolia.
Seljuq Sultanate of Rum (Konya / Iconium)
AD 1086 - 1308
The Sultanate of Rum was established in Eastern Roman Byzantine Asia Minor by the first mass migration of Turks from east of the Caspian Sea. After the Seljuqs conquered Persia and took Baghdad, a splinter group defeated the Byzantines in Anatolia and founded Rum ('Rome'), initially under Persian Seljuq suzerainty. The sultanate was alternatively known as the Sultanate of Konya or Iconium.
1060 - 1078
Kutulmush
Vied for the rule of Seljuq Baghdad in 1063.
1064
Armenia is conquered.
1078 - 1086
Süleyman I
Son. First Sultan of Rum.
1085
Antioch is taken from the Byzantines and held for just thirteen years before it is lost to the Crusader Principality of Antioch.
1092 - 1107
Kilij Arslan I
1107 - 1116
Malik Shah
1116 - 1156
Masud I
1156 - 1192
Kilij Arlsan II
1176
The Byzantines are defeated at the Battle of Myriocephalon.
1192 - 1196
Kaikhosru I
1196 - 1204
Süleyman II
1204
Kilij Arlsan III
1204 - 1210
Kaikhosru I
Restored.
1210 - 1220
Kaikawus I
1220 - 1237
Kaikubad I
1237 - 1245
Kaikhosru II
1243
The Sultanate is struck heavily by the all-conquering Mongols and becomes a vassal state. The Seljuqs begin to disintegrate, despite attempts to retain the sultanate's cohesiveness.
1246 - 1257
Kaikawus II
1248 - 1265
Kilij Arslan IV
1249 - 1257
Kaikubad II
1265 - 1282
Kaikhosru III
1282 - 1304
Masud II
1284 - 1307
Kaikubad III
1307 - 1308
Masud III
1308
The sultanate collapses in the face of Mongol overlordship.
1308 - 1336
Anatolia is ruled on behalf of the Mongols by a regional governor, with the Ottoman Turks making substantial inroads to the west.
1336
The Mongol sultanate of the Jalayirids establishes control over the region.
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Alp-Arslan’s victory at Manzikert in 1071 had opened the Byzantine frontier to Oǧuz tribesmen, and they soon established themselves as mercenaries in the Byzantines’ local struggles. Their employment by rival Byzantine generals vying for the throne of Constantinople (now Istanbul) gained them increasing influence, and gradually they assumed control of Anatolia as allies of the Byzantine emperor. They were driven to the interior of Anatolia by crusaders in 1097; hemmed in between the Byzantine Greeks on the west and by the crusader states in Syria on the east, the Seljuq Turks organized their Anatolian domain as the sultanate of Rūm. Though its population included Christians, Armenians, Greeks, Syrians, and Iranian Muslims, Rūm was considered to be “Turkey” by its contemporaries. Commerce, agriculture, and art thrived in the kingdom, where a tolerance of races and religions contributed to order and stability.
A war against the Khwārezm-Shāh dynasty of Iran instigated in 1230 by the Rūm sultan ʿAlaʾ ad-Dīn Kay-Qubādh (Kaikobad) I led ultimately to the disintegration of Rūm and of Seljuq power. The loss of the Khorezmian buffer state meant that when the invading Mongols reached Turkey’s eastern frontiers, the Seljuqs could not fend them off. At the Battle of Köse Dagh in 1243, Seljuq autonomy was lost forever. For a time the Seljuq sultanate continued as a Mongol province, although some Turkmen emirs maintained small principalities of their own in distant mountainous districts. The Seljuq dynasty died out at last early in the 13th century.
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List of Grand Masters
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1. Hugues de Payens 1118-1136
2. Robert de Craon 1136-1147
3. Everard des Barres 1147-1149
4. Bernard de Tremelay † 1149-1153
5. André de Montbard 1153-1156
6. Bertrand de Blanchefort 1156-1169
7. Philippe de Milly 1169-1171
8. Odo de St Amand # 1171-1179
9. Arnold of Torroja 1181-1184
10. Gerard de Ridefort † 1185-1189
11. Robert de Sablé 1191-1193
12. Gilbert Horal 1193-1200
13. Phillipe de Plessis 1201-1208
14. Guillaume de Chartres 1209-1219
15. Pedro de Montaigu 1218-1232
16. Armand de Périgord # 1232-1244
17. Richard de Bures (Disputed) 1244/5-1247 [1]
18. Guillaume de Sonnac † 1247-1250
19. Renaud de Vichiers 1250-1256
20. Thomas Bérard 1256-1273
21. Guillaume de Beaujeu † 1273-1291
22. Thibaud Gaudin 1291-1292
23. Jacques de Molay 1292-1314
(1) Armand de Périgord was either killed or captured at the battle of La Forbie; authorities differ. Richard de Bures commanded the Templars until the election of Guillame de Sonnac; whether he was Grand Master is disputed.
Ecus de Grand-Maîtres avant qu'ils deviennent Templiers
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Hugues de Payns 1e grand-maître
1119 - 1136
Robert de Craon Evrart des Barrès 2e grand-maître
1136 - 1147
3e grand-maître
1147 - 1150
Bernard de Tramelay André de Montbard 4e grand-maître
1151 - 1153
5e grand-maître
1154 - 1156
Bertrand de Blanquefort Philippe de Naplouse 6e grand-maître
1156 - 1169
7e grand-maître
1169 - 1170
Odon-de-Saint-Amant Arnaud de Toroge 8e grand-maître
1170 - 1179
9e grand-maître
1181 - 1184
Jean de Terric
N'a jamais été Grand-Maître Gérard de Ridefort Robert de Sablé 10e grand-maître
1188 - 1189
11e grand-maître
1191 - 1193
Gilbert Erail Philippe du Plaissiez 12e grand-maître
1193 - 1200
13e grand-maître
1201 - 1209
Guillaume de Chartres Pierre de Montaigu 14e grand-maître
1210 - 1218
15e grand-maître
1219 - 1232
Armand de Périgord Guillaume de Sonnac 16e grand-maître
1232 - 1244
17e grand-maître
1247 - 1250
Richard de Bures 18e grand-maître
1244 - 1247
Renaud de Vichiers Thomas Bérard 19e grand-maître
1250 - 1252
20e grand-maître
1252 - 1273
Guillaume de Beaujeu Thibaud Gaudin 21e grand-maître
1273 - 1291
22e grand-maître
1291 - 1292
Jacques de Molay 23e grand-maître
1293 - 1314
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I - HUGUES DE PAYNS (1118)
Ainsi nommé de la terre de Payns en Champagne, près de Troyes d'origine vivaraise et non champenoise.
Il s'appellerait Hugues de Payns et serait né le 9 février 1070 au château de Nlahun, dans l'Ardèche. Chevalier issu de la maison des comtes de Champagne
Il fonda en 1118 avec 8 autres gentilshommes un ordre religieux et militaire pour la défense de la Terre Sainte, sous le nom de : Frères de la Milice du Christ.
Au début de leur institution, ils étaient si pauvres qu'ils n'avaient qu'un cheval pour deux.
Ce fut pour perpétuer la mémoire de cette pauvreté qu'ils firent mettre sur le sceau de l'Ordre un cheval monté par deux cavaliers. meurt en 1136. 2 - ROBERT LE BOURGUIGNON (1136)
Son père, Renaud, sire de Craon, fut le fondateur de l'abbaye de la Roë, en Anjou.
Fiancé avec la fille et l'héritière de Jourdain Eskivat, seigneur de Confolens et de Chabannes, Robert céda pour des motifs inconnus sa fiancée à Guillaume de Masta, s'en fut en Palestine et entra dans l'ordre des Templiers.
D'abord Sénéchal Dit "le Bourguignon" ; Législateur du Temple ; élu en 1136, il est très sensible aux légendes et à l'élégance chevaleresque.
Il fut le 1er à entretenir des relations secrètes avec les Sarrasins. Il meurt en captivité en 1147
Guillaume de Tyr atteste qu'il ne fut pas moins illustre par la pureté de ses moeurs et sa bravoure que par l'éclat ce sa naissance était d'origine angevine. 3 - EVERARD DES BARRES (1147)
Il entre à Clairvaux, embrasse la vie monastique et envoie son abdication en Palestine.
Il persévéra dans sa nouvelle vocation malgré les insistances des Templiers.
Etait précepteur ou maître de l'Ordre pour la France depuis 1143.
Il sauve le roi de France vaincu par les Turcs, écrase ces derniers, et rentre en France avec le roi.
Il mène une vie exemplaire pendant 24 ans et meurt à Ascalon en 1173-74 ROBERT
Tué à la bataille de St Jean d'Acre en 1150 4 - BERNARD DE TRAMELAI (1151)
Bernard de Trameloy. seigneur bourguignon.
Il reçut de Louis VII le privilège de pendre le titre de Grand Maître.(non reconnu par le Chapitre)
Son petit neveu, Amédée de Tramelay, fut archevêque de Besançon (1193-1219)
Fit rebâtir l'église et la ville de Gaza
Fait captif et meurt près d'Ascalon en 1153 avec ses Templiers.
Pendant cette bataille Templiers et Hospitaliers se combattant pour le butin et l'honneur avant la prise de la ville ANDRE DE MONTBARD (1153)
D'abord Sénéchal, Oncle de Bernard de Clairvaux; élu en 1153
Il quitte l'Ordre et entre à Clairvaux en 1156 où il meurt. 5 - BERTRAND DE BLANQUEFORT (1156)
Etait le fils de Godefroy, seigneur de Blanquefort en Guyenne.
Administrateur de l'Ordre, et Grand Maître vicaire de 1153 jusqu'en 1157; élu en 1156
Il eut la réputation d'un religieux édifiant et d'un capitaine très versé dans l'art de la guerre.
Fait prisonnier en 1156 par Noureddin, Il fut racheté aubout de trois années par Manuel Commène, empereur de Constantinople.
Fait prisonnier par Nouredin en 1156 pendant la bataille du lac Méron et fut racheté par l'empereur de Byzance 3 ans plus tard.
En 1166, envoya une députation à Louis VII qui lui avait reconnu le bitre de Grand-Maitre parla grâce de Dieu, pour appeler l'attention du roi sur la Terre Sainte, dont les maux s'aggravaient chaque jour.
Meurt en 1169 6 - PHILIPPE DE MILLY dit DE NAPELOUSE (1169)
D'origine Syrienne né à Naplouse, originaire de Picardie.
Il abdique avant Pâques 1171, car en désaccord avec le Chapitre Général. GEOFROY FULGERI (1170)
Jusqu'en 1171 7 - ODON DE SAINT-AMAND ou EUDES SAINT AMENT (1171)
D'une illustre famille du Limousin, Odon de Saint-Chamant avait été maréchal, puis bouteiller du royaume de Jérusalem, avant d'entrer dans l'ordre du Temple.
Il maintint les privilèges de l'Ordre contre les rois, ce qui le fit accuser d'orgueil intraitable par ses ennemis.
Vainqueur de Saladin près de Rama en 1176, fait captif près de Sidon en 1177
Fait prisonnier par les Turcs en 1178, il refuse d'être échangé contre un Emir prisonnier de l'Ordre, disant : «Je ne veux point autoriser par mon exemple a la lâcheté de ceux de mes religieux qui se laisse raient prendre, dans la vue d'être rachetés.
Meurt après quelques mois de captivité ou au combat du Gué de Jacob en 1179. ROBERT DU MONT
Grands maître vicaire 8 - ARNAUD DE TOROGE ou DE TURRI RUBEA ou TOUR ROUGE TORAGE ou THEDOR de THIERRY (1179)
D'abord Maître d'Aragon, Homme de coeur et d'honneur, fut cependant contraint de signer une paix désastreuse avec le Sultan Saladin en 1184, ainsi que le Grand-maître des Hospitaliers.
Le Grand Maître des Hospitaliers était Roger de Moulina et le patriarche de Jérusalem, Héraclius.
Meurt au cours d'un voyage à Vérone en 1184. 9 - JEAN DE TERRIC ou DE THÉRRENCE (1184)
Origine inconnue, Sénéchal
Sa témérité fut cause des plus grands revers, il échappa presque seul au combat à jamais mémorable de Nazareth, le 1 mai 1187, dans lequel 500 chevaliers du Temple et de Jérusalem soutinrent tout l'effort d'une armée musulmane, commandée par le prince Aldhal, fils de Saladin..
Fait prisonnier par Saladin à la Bataille de Tibériade, 5 juillet 1187, il fut remis en liberté sous serment de ne jamais prendre les armes contre lu, Il abdique en 1188 10 - GIRARD DE RIDERFORT ou DE BESEFORT (1184-88)
D'origine flamande. Grand et vaillant capitaine
D'abord Sénéchal, homme mystérieux du fait notamment d'avoir été épargné 2 fois par les musulmans, d'avoir été obligé de céder Gaza, d'avoir été désigné par Saladin comme négociateur avec le roi de Jérusalem.
Grands maître vicaire, fut vraisablement manipulé.
Fait captif dans la bataille près de Tibériade en 1188, meurt en 1189 à la bataille près d'Âcre. NICOLAUS DE THIERRY (1189)
Grands maître vicaire HERMAND DE PÉRIGORD (1190)
Meurt à Antioche en 1193 11 - ROBERT DE SABLE (1191)
IL était trouvère
Seigneur de Sablé, tire son origine de l'illustre maison de Craon, en Anjou, Laquelle avait déjà donné à l'ordre du Temple un de ses Grands Maîtres, dit le Bourguignon.
Fait Templier devant la ville de Ptolemaîs
Elevé à la maîtrise de l'Ordre peu après son admission, par suite de la renommée que lui valurent ses exploits. Vainquit Saladin.
Il commanda la flotte avec Richard, en Terre Sainte
Fut en relation intime avec Saladin
Le roi d'Angleterre, Richard Coeur de Lion, lui vendit l'île de Chypre.
Les Templiers refusèrent de garder une île, puis la donna à Guy de Lusignan.
Il meurt en 1196 GAUTHIER (1193-96)
Grands maître vicaire 12 - GILBERT ERAIL ou HORAIL / ERRAIL / HORAL(1196)
Fut Précepteur de France avant d'être élu Magnus Magister durant sa maîtrise
Choisi par Saladin pour être garant de la trêve de 5 ans. et des accords secrets avec les Sarrasin
Il avait au plus haut degré l'honneur et la religion du serment, et refusa souvent de violer ses engagements avec les Sarrasins.
Meurt en 1201. PONCE RIAULT (1196)
Jusqu'en 1202 13 - PHILIPPE DE PLESSIS / PLAISSIEZ ou THODOR DE BERSIAQUE (I201)
Est né aux portes d'Angers, dans la vieille forteresse de Plessie-Macé
Il connut l'ordre au cours de la troisième croisade. Sous son magistère les Templiers vainquirent les Maures d'Espagne
Un différend s'éleva entre les Templiers et les Hospitaliers au sujet d'une terre que ces derniers avaient inféodée, et dont les Templiers réclamaient la propriété Cette querelle fut le commencement des guerres très vives qui existèrent entre les deux Ordres.
En 1208, le pape Innocent III lui écrit une lettre très sévère sur la désobéissance des Templiers envers les évêques et même des légats.
Meurt en 1209 14 - GUILLAUME DE CHARTRES (1209)
Était fils de Nîlon III, comte de Bar-sur-Seine.
Premiers contacts avec les hordes d'or
Gengis Khan lui envois ses émissaires, accusé de trahison par les barons occidentaux.
Il assista au siège et à la prise de Damiette.
Meurt de la peste à Damiette, en 1219 15 - PIERRE DE MONTAIGU (1219)
Fils de Milen III comte de Bar. Fut Précepteur d'Espagne et maître d'Aragon
Fit preuve de beaucoup de bravoure et d'habileté au siège de Damiette, mais son entêtement à refuser les offres avantageuses du Sultan d'Égypte obscurcit beaucoup la gloire qu'il acquit de cette expédition.
Assurera les seconds contacts avec les mongols parvenus à damas.
Et se rendit aussi plusieurs fois en Perse.
Il fut dit qu'il rapporta d'une entrevue la boussole.
Prétendit ne pas devoir l'obéissance à l'Empereur Frédéric II, et obtint de Rome d'être exempt de la juridiction du Patriarche de Jérusalem .
Il meurt en 1232-33 en apoplexie. ARCHENBAUDE DE BIZOLIS (1223)
Meurt du poison en 1225 CHRISTOPHORE DE ST MAURE (1125)
Périt dans la bataille de Sur en 1235 NICOLAS DE MONTE SANCTO (1236)
Tué à la bataille près de Césarée en 1239 16 - ARMAND DE GROSSE-PIERRE (1232)
D'abord maître de Pouilles
Faire face aux dissensions existant entre le Temple, les Hospitaliers et les chevaliers Teutoniques.
Fut élu pendant la bataille de Gaza au moment où il se battaient contre les Turcs aux côtés des Arabes.
Meurt à Gaza en 1247 17 - ARMAND DE PÉRIGORD ou HERMAN DE PERAGOS (1233)
Maître de la province d'Aquitaine, de Sicile, puis de Calabre
Est issu de l'ancienne maison des comtes de Périgord. Avant la grande maîtrise, était Précepteur de Sicile et de Calabre.
En 1240, fit relever la forteresse de Saphet, ruinée par les Sarrasins qui la redoutaient beaucoup.
Fut en discorde constante avec les Hospitaliers et les Teutoniques.
Participa à la grande défaite de Gaza, où l'armée chrétienne fut écrasée par les Corasmiens alliés aux Égyptiens. et disparut dans une bataille contre les Kharismien
il est tué à la bataille près du mont Thabor en 1244 en combattant les Mongols, allié aux chrétiens d'Orient. GUILLAUME DE ROCQUEFORT / ROCHEFORT
Grands maître vicaire (régent) RICHARD DE BURES (1244-47)
Né en Palestine
Fut très critiqué par les occidentaux 18 - GUILLAUME DE SONNAC (1247)
D'abord maître du Poitou, présent à la prise de Damiette
Homme prudent et circonspect, très versé dans l'art militaire.
Saint Louis ayant confié l'avant-garde de son armée à Guillaume de Sonnac donnait l'ordre à Robert. comte d'Artois, d'obéir à ses conseils.
Mais la témérité du jeune prince méprisa les sages avis du Grand Maître, et l'entraîna malgré lui dans la déroute de la Massoure. De Sonnac y perdit un oeil.
Quelques jours après ce fut Damiette. et reprend Damiette.
Tué dans la bataille où saint Louis fut fait prisonnier.
Il fut l'ami des émirs turcs et qui avait prévu le désastre de Mansourah mais ne s'en jeta pas moins dans la bataille où il meurt dans la bataille en 1250, St Louis fut fait prisonnier mais le sacrifice des Templiers sauva St Louis.
Portait les armes de l'Ordre 19 - RENAULD / RENAUD DE VICHIERS (1250)
Renaud de Vichy Champenois de naissance, fut successivement Précepteur de. France et Grand
Maréchal de l'Ordre.
C'est à lui que Joinville s'adressa le jour où il força un des coffres confiés au Trésor du Temple et qui appartenait à un sergent du roi.
Qui fut plus ou moins contraint par Joinville à participer au paiement de la rançon de St Louis
Grand 'Maître de l'Ordre. Ce fut lui qui engagea Saint Louis à rester en Syrie.
Frédéric II lui rendit les biens qu'il avait pris au Temple durant son règne en Syrie.
Fut destitué par le Chapitre et meurt en 1256 ROBERT (1256)
Jusqu'en 1264 20 - THOMAS BERAUT ou BERARD (1256)
Plus musulman que chrétien, il parlait souvent avec les Chiites.
Fervents partisans de l'alliance avec les mongols.
Batailles désastreuses non seulement contre les infidèles, mais contre les Hospitaliers. Résiste au Pape qui avait excommunié.
Étienne de Sissi, et l'avait privé de sa charge, entreprise inouie jusqu'alors.
Fait prisonnier à Sapahad, il aurait renié le Christ pour obtenir sa libération
Meurt en 1273.
C'est à lui qu'on imputa, lors du procès sous Philippe le Bel, d'avoir introduit dans l'Ordre la coutume de renier Jésus-Christ ROBERT DU MONT 1273
Jusqu'en 1275 GEOFFREY DE SALVAING
Grands maître vicaire, Jusqu'en 1285 21 - GUILLAUME DE BEAUJEU ou GUILLARD ou GUICHARD (1273)
Commandeur de la Pouille, gouverna le Temple, le 13 mai 1273
Fut tué sous les murs de la ville d'Âcre lors du siège de cette place par le sultan d'Égypte, Kalil-Ascraf. le 5 avril 1291
Portait les armes du Temple de celles de la maison de Beaujeu, qui sont d'or, au lion de sable, aux lambels de cinq pendants de gueules brochant sur le tout. 22 - THIBAUD GAUDIN ou LE MOINE GAUDINI (1291)
D'abord religieux de l'Ordre soit Grand commandeur
Visita toute les Commanderies de France
Dut céder Saint-Jean d'Âcre après 45 jours de durs combat
On lui offre des conditions honorables qu'il accepte, 'mais qui sont aussitôt violées.
Les Templiers périrent tous, sauf 10 d'entre eux sur 500 , Gaudini et le Grand Maître de l'Hospital purent s'échapper et faire voile vers Chypre, et transfert le siège de l'Ordre à Paris
Il favorisa deux raids de Jacques de Molay sur Tortosa et Jesusalem.
Mourut vers l'an 1298. 23 - JACQUES-BERNARD OU BENOIT DE MOLAY (1295)
Originaire de la maison de Longwy et de Raon du comté de Bourgogne, naquit à Molay près de Bourguignon, canton dc Vitrey .
Fils d'un simple gentilhomme, vassal du sire de la Rochelle qui le tint sur les fonts baptismaux.
D'abord Maréchal,Il fait abandonner la Palestine et rentre à Paris à la demande du pape
Lui-même eut l'honneur de tenir sur les fonts baptismaux un des fils de Philippe le Bel.
On ne rapporte que des traits honorables de sa conduite en Orient,
En 1299, alliés au fameux Kazan, roi des Tartares '.Mogols, les Templiers écrasent les Musulmans et reprennent Jérusalem. Mais en 1300, la ville Sainte retomba au pouvoir des Infidèles.
Il refusa de fusionner son Ordre avec celui des Hospitaliers.
Mais doit enfin quitter la Terre Sainte et retourner à Chypre en 1303.
L'an 1314, le lundi après la fête de saint Grégoire le-Grand, le 18 mars d'après Guillaume de Nangis, Jacques de Molay est condamné par Philippe le Bel à être brûlé vif, pour n'avoir pas voulu confirmer les aveux qu'il avait faits dans les tortures et les avoir publiquement rétractés.
Il eut pour compagnon de supplice, Gui, frère de Robert III, dauphin d'Auvergne.
Tous deux protestèrent de leur innocence en mourant.
Godefroy de Paris, chroniqueur et poète raconte ainsi les derniers instants de Jacques de ' Molay : «Le Grand-Maître qui vit le feu préparé se dépouilla sans hésitation. je le rapporte comme je l'ai vu. Il se mit tout nu en chemin, lestement et de bonne mine, sans trembler nullement quoiqu'on le tirât et le bousculât fort. On le prit pour l'attacher au poteau et on lui liait les mains avec une corde, mais il leur dit : Au moins laissez-moi joindre un peu les mains, et faire à Dieu ma prière, car c'en est bien le moment. je vais maintenant mourir; Dieu sait que c'est à tort. Il arrivera bientôt malheur à ceux qui nous condamnent sans justice. Dieu vengera notre mort, je meurs avec cette conviction. Pour vous, seigneurs, tournez-moi, je vous prie, le visage vers la Vierge Marie, mère de Jésus-Christ ».
On lui accorda sa requête, et la mort le prit si « doucement dans cette attitude, que chacun en fut « émerveillé ».
Portait écartelé aux 1 et 4 du Temple, et aux 2 et 3 d'azur à la bande d'or, qui sont les armes de la maison de Longwy et de Raon,
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Robert de Craon
1136-1147
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André de Montbard
1155-1156
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Le siège de Damas ayant été une grosse défaite pour le roi de Jérusalem, Baudoin III, celui-ci décida de lancer une attaque sur Ascalon.
Le Grand Maître de l'Ordre, Bernard de Trémelay, appuya l'avis du roi et l'attaque fut donnée le 16 août 1153. C'est une hécatombe pour les Templiers qui pénètrent dans la cité à quarantes derrière leur Maître. Ils furent tous tués par les défenseurs égyptiens de la cité et leur corps suspendus aux remparts.
Cette partie a essuyé de nombreuses polémiques car certains prétendent que les Templiers ont voulus entrés seuls dans la cité afin de s'approprier tous les biens et trésors alors que d'autres pensent qu'ils ont, au contraire, voulu marquer l'Ordre d'un fait d'arme.
Toutefois, la ville d'Ascalon tombe le 22 août 1153 et l'Ordre du Temple se voit élir un nouveau Grand Maître: André de Montbard.
Bertrand de Blanchefort
1156-1169
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Philip of Milly
1169-1171
Généalogie
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Guy de Milly, seigneur de Naplouse
X Étiennette ou Élisabeth
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├──> Guy Francinega
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├──> Philippe de Milly, seigneur de Naplouse, puis d'Outre-Jourdain
│ x Isabelle
│ │
│ └──> Étiennette de Milly
│ X1) Onfroy III de Toron
│ X2) Miles de Plancy
│ X3) Renaud de Châtillon
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└──> Henry Bibalus, seigneur d'Arabia Petra
X Agnès Grenier, fille d'Eustache Ier Grenier, comte de Sidon et seigneur de Césarée
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├──> Étiennette de Milly
│ X1) Guillaume Dorel, seigneur de Botron
│ X2) Hugues III Embriaco, seigneur du Gibelet
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├──> Agnès de Milly, mariée à Josselin III d'Édesse
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└──> Helvis de Milly
X) Adam III, seigneur de Bethsan
Odo de St Amand
1171-1179
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1171 Eudes ou Odon de Saint-Amand, de souche limousine noble, chevalier français, né de parents aussi distingués par leur piété que par leur noblesse, maréchal, puis bouteiller ou échans
Date November 25, 1177 Location Montgisard, near Ramla Result Decisive Crusader victory Belligerents Kingdom of Jerusalem Knights Templar Ayyubids Commanders Baldwin IV of Jerusalem
Odo de St Amand
Raynald of Chatillon Saladin Strength 375 knights,
80 Templars,
Several thousand infantry ~30,000 men Casualties and losses 1,100 killed
750 wounded ~27,000 men
Arnold of Torroja
1181-1184
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Master of the Order from 1180 to 1184.
Arnaud de Toroge was the Master of the Provinces Provence and Aragon when he was elected to the head of the Order at the end of 1180.
He succeeded Eudes de Saint-Amand, who died in captivity in Damas.
Arnaud de Toroge was more than 70 years old when he was elected, but he was a man experienced in the discipline and functioning of the Order. His knowledge centred on Spain, because of the ‘Reconquista’, meaning de Toroge didn’t really know the political situation of the Latin States.
His term as Master was marked by quarrels between Templars and Hospitalers, as the power and influence of the former constantly grew. As a result Arnaud de Toroge accepted mediation by Pope Lucius III and King Baudouin IV to put an end to the fratricidal quarrels.
In 1184, the political situation deteriorated further when Renaud de Châtillon, helped by Templar and Hospitaler knights, devastated Muslim territories in Transjordania for his own benefit.
Arnaud de Toroge had to show great political wisdom in his successful peace negotiations with Saladin who was ready to avenge Renaud de Chatillon’s mortal raids.
Still in 1184, Arnaud de Toroge and the Master of the Hospital went to Europe to plead before the Pope and Kings for a new Crusade. They hoped to reinforce the Latin States that were increasingly at the mercy of Saladin and the growing power of a reunified Muslim world.
During this trip, Arnaud de Toroge was taken ill and died in Verone on September 30th 1184 before having met Pope Lucius III.
Gerard de Ridefort
1185-1189
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1189: Joined by Conrad of Montferrat, Guy of Lusignan launches an attack on the Muslim camp defending Acre which nearly succeeds in routing Saladin's forces - but only at the expense of heavy casualties among the Christians. Among those captured and killed is Gerard de Ridefort, Master of the Knights Templar who had previously been capture and then ransomed off after the Battle of Hattin. Conrad himself was nearly captured as well, but he was rescued by his enemy Guy.
Robert de Sablé
1191-1193
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Gilbert Horal
1193-1200
Phillipe de Plessis
1201-1208
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Guillaume de Chartres
1210 - 1219
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List of Grand Masters of the Knights Hospitaller.
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The Blessed Gerard (1099-1120)
Raymond du Puy de Provence (1120-1160)
Auger de Balben (1160-1163)
Arnaud de Comps (1162-1163)
Gilbert d'Aissailly (1163-1170)
Gastone de Murols (c. 1170-1172)
Jobert of Syria (1172-1177)
Roger de Moulins (1177-1187)
Armengol de Aspa (1187-1190) (Provisor, i.e. Overseer; not formally designated Master)
Garnier of Nablus (1190-1192)
Geoffroy de Donjon (1193-1202)
Afonso de Portugal (1203-1206)
Geoffrey le Rat (1206-1207)
Garin de Montaigu (1207-1228)
Bertrand de Thercy (1228-1231)
Guerin de Montacute (1231-1236)
Bertrand de Comps (1236-1240)
Pierre de Vielle-Bride (1240-1242)
Guillaume de Chateauneuf (1242-1258)
Hugues de Revel (1258-1277)
Nicolas Lorgne (1277-1284)
Jean de Villiers (1284-1294)
Odon de Pins (1294-1296)
Guillaume de Villaret (1296-1305)
Foulques de Villaret (1305-1319)
Hélion de Villeneuve (1319-1346)
Dieudonné de Gozon (1346-1353)
Pierre de Corneillan (1353-1355)
Roger de Pins (1355-1365)
Raymond Berenger (1365-1374)
Robert de Juliac (1374-1376)
Juan Fernandez de Heredia (1376-1396)
Riccardo Caracciolo (1383-1395) Rival Grand Master
Philibert de Naillac (1396-1421)
Antonio Fluvian de Riviere (1421-1437)
Jean de Lastic (1437-1454)
Jacques de Milly (1454-1461)
Piero Raimondo Zacosta (1461-1467)
Giovanni Battista Orsini (1467-1476)
Pierre d'Aubusson (1476-1503)
Emery d'Amboise (1503-1512)
Guy de Blanchefort (1512-1513)
Fabrizio del Carretto (1513-1521)
Philippe Villiers de L'Isle-Adam (1521-1534) (first Grand Master that ruled over Malta)
Piero de Ponte (1534-1535)
Didier de Saint-Jaille (1535-1536)
Juan de Homedes y Coscon (1536-1553)
Claude de la Sengle (1553-1557)
Jean Parisot de la Valette (1557-1568)
Pierre de Monte (1568-1572)
Jean de la Cassiere (1572-1581)
Mathurin Romegas (1581) Lieutenant 1577-1581 and Rival Grand Master 1581
Hugues Loubenx de Verdalle (1581-1595)
Martin Garzez (1595-1601)
Alof de Wignacourt (1601-1622)
Luís Mendes de Vasconcellos (1622-1623)
Antoine de Paule (1623-1636)
Juan de Lascaris-Castellar (1636-1657)
Martin de Redin (1657-1660)
Annet de Clermont-Gessant (1660)
Raphael Cotoner (1660-1663)
Nicolas Cotoner (1663-1680)
Gregorio Carafa (1680-1690)
Adrien de Wignacourt (1690-1697)
Ramon Perellos y Roccaful (1697-1720)
Marc'Antonio Zondadari (1720-1722)
António Manoel de Vilhena (1722-1736)
Raymond Despuig (1736-1741)
Manuel Pinto da Fonseca (1741-1773)
Francisco Ximenes de Texada (1773-1775)
Emmanuel de Rohan-Polduc (1775-1797)
Ferdinand von Hompesch zu Bolheim (1797-1799) (last Grand Master that ruled over Malta)
Paul I of Russia (1798-1801) de facto
Count Nikolay Saltykov (1801-1803) Lieutenant de facto
Giovanni Battista Tommasi (1803-1805)
Innico Maria Guevara-Suardo (1805-1814) Lieutenant
André Di Giovanni (1814-1821) Lieutenant
Antoine Busca (1821-1834) Lieutenant
Carlo Candida (1834-1845) Lieutenant
Philippe di Colloredo-Mels (1845-1864) Lieutenant
Alessandro Borgia (1865-1871) Lieutenant
Giovanni Battista Ceschi a Santa Croce (1871-1879) Lieutenant
Giovanni Battista Ceschi a Santa Croce (1879-1905)
Galeazzo von Thun und Hohenstein (1905-1931)
Ludovico Chigi Albani della Rovere (1931-1951)
Antonio Hercolani-Fava-Simonetti (1951-1955) Lieutenant
Ernesto Paternó Castello di Carcaci (1955-1962) Lieutenant
Angelo de Mojana di Cologna (1962-1988)
Jean Charles Pallavicini (1988) Lieutenant
Andrew Bertie (1988-2008)
Giacomo dalla Torre del Tempio di Sanguinetto (2008) Lieutenant ad interim
Matthew Festing (2008-)
The 79 Grand Masters
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1 Blessed Gerard Sept. 3 1120
2 Fra' Raymond du Puy 1120 - c. 1158/60 3 Fra' Auger de Balben c. 1158/60 - 1162/3 4 Fra' Arnaud de Comps 1162 - 1163 5 Fra' Gilbert de Aissailly 1163 - c.1169/70 6 Fra' Gastone de Murols c. 1170 - c. 1172 7 Fra' Gilbert c. 1172 - 1177 8 Fra' Roger de Moulins 1177 - c. 1187 9 Fra' Hermangard d'Asp 1188 - c. 1190 10 Fra' Garnier de Naplous 1189/90 - 1192 11 Fra' Geoffroy de Donjon 1193 - 1202 12 Fra' Alfonse of Portugal 1203 - 1206 13 Fra' Geoffrey le Rat 1206 - 1207 14 Fra' Garin de Montaigu 1207 - c. 1227/8 15 Fra' Bertrand de Thessy c. 1228 - 1231 16 Fra' Guerin 1231 - 1236 17 Fra' Bertrand de Comps 1236 - c. 1239/40 18 Fra' Pierre de Vielle-Bride 1239/40 - 1242 19 Fra' Guillaume de Chateauneuf 1242 - 1258 20 Fra' Hugues de Revel 1258 - 1277 21 Fra' Nicolas Lorgne 1277/8 - 1284 22 Fra' Jean de Villiers 1284/5 - c. 1293/4 23 Fra' Odon de Pins 1294 - 1296 24 Fra' Guillaume de Villaret 1296 - 1305 25 Fra' Foulques de Villaret 1305 - 1319 26 Fra' Helion de Villeneuve 1319 - 1346 27 Fra' Dieudonné de Gozon 1346 - 1353 28 Fra' Pierre de Corneillan 1353 - 1355 29 Fra' Roger de Pins 1355 - 1365 30 Fra' Raymond Berenger 1365 - 1374 31 Fra' Robert de Juliac 1374 - 1376 32 Fra' Jean Fernandez de Heredia 1376 - 1396 33 Fra' Riccardo Caracciolo 1383 - 1395 34 Fra' Philibert de Naillac 1396 - 1421 35 Fra' Antonio Fluvian de Riviere 1421 - 1437 36 Fra' Jean de Lastic 1437 - 1454 37 Fra' Jacques de Milly 1454 - 1461 38 Fra' Piero Raimondo Zacosta 1461 - 1467 39 Fra' Giovanni Battista Orsini 1467 - 1476 40 Fra' Pierre d'Aubusson 1476 - 1503 41 Fra' Emery d'Amboise 1503 - 1512 42 Fra' Guy de Blanchefort 1512 - 1513 43 Fra' Fabrizio del Carretto 1513 - 1521 44 Fra' Philippe de Villiers de l'Isle-Adam 1521 - 1534 45 Fra' Piero de Ponte 1534 - 1535 46 Fra' Didier de Saint-Jaille 1535 - 1536 47 Fra' Jean de Homedes 1536 - 1553 48 Fra' Claude de la Sengle 1553 - 1557 49 Fra' Jean de la Vallette (or Valette) 1557 - 1568 50 Fra' Pierre de Monte 1568 - 1572 51 Fra' Jean de la Cassiere 1572 - 1581 52 Fra' Hugues Loubenx de Verdala 1581 - 1595 53 Fra' Martin Garzez 1595 - 1601 54 Fra' Alof de Wignacourt 1601 - 1622 55 Fra' Luis Mendez de Vasconcellos 1622 - 1623 56 Fra' Antoine de Paule 1623 - 1636 57 Fra' Juan de Lascaris-Castellar 1636 - 1657 58 Fra' Antoine de Redin 1657 - 1660 59 Fra' Annet de Clermont-Gessant 1660 60 Fra' Raphael Cotoner 1660 - 1663 61 Fra' Nicolas Cotoner 1663 - 1680 62 Fra' Gregorio Carafa 1680 - 1690 63 Fra' Adrienne de Wignacourt 1690 - 1697 64 Fra' Ramon Perellos y Roccaful 1697 - 1720 65 Fra' Marc'Antonio Zondadari 1720 - 1722 66 Fra' Antonio Manoel de Vilhena 1722 - 1736 67 Fra' Raymond Despuig 1736 - 1741 68 Fra' Manuel Pinto de Fonseca 1741 - 1773 69 Fra' Francisco Ximenes de Texada 1773 - 1775 70 Fra' Emmanuel de Rohan-Polduc 1775 - 1797 71 Fra' Ferdinand von Hompesch zu Bolheim 1797 - 1802 72 Emperor Paul I of Russia (de facto) 1799 - 1801 73 Fra' Giovanni Battista Tommasi 1803 - 1805 74 Fra' Giovanni Battista Ceschi a Santa Croce 1879 - 1905 75 Fra' Galeazzo von Thun und Hohenstein 1905 - 1931 76 Fra' Ludovico Chigi Albani della Rovere 1931 - 1951 77 Fra' Angelo de Mojana di Cologna 1962 - 1988 78 Fra' Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie 1988 - 2008 79 Fra' Matthew Festing 2008 - LIEUTENANTS OF THE GRAND MAGISTRY
1 Fra' Innico Maria Guevara-Suardo 1805-1814 2 Fra' André Di Giovanni 1814-1821 3 Fra' Antoine Busca 1821-1834 4 Fra' Carlo Candida 1834-1845 5 Fra' Philippe di Colloredo-Mels 1845-1864 6 Fra' Alessandro Borgia 1865-1872 7 Fra' Giovanni Battista Ceschi a Santa Croce 1872-1879 8 Fra' Antoine Hercolani Fava Simonetti "ad interim" 1951-1955 9 Fra' Jean Charles Pallavicini "ad interim" 1988 (January-April) 10 Fra’ Giacomo Dalla Torre del Tempio di Sanguinetto 2008 (February-March) LIEUTENANTS OF THE GRAND MASTER
Fra' Pio Franchi de' Cavalieri
(during 75th Grand Master's illness) 1929-1931 Fra' Ernesto Paternò Castello di Carcaci 1955-1962
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Grootmeesters van de OrdeJeruzalem 1. Frà Gérard, stichter 1120 † 2. Frà Raymond du Puy 1120 - 11583. Frà Auger de Balben 1158/60 - 1162 4. Frà Arnaud de Comps 1162 - 1163 5. Frà Gilbert d’Assailly 1163 - 1169/70 6. Frà Gaston de Murols 1170 - 1172 7. Frà Joubert de Syrie 1173 - 1177 8. Frà Roger des Moulins 1177 - 1187 Akko 9. Frà Ermengard d’Asp 1188 - 1190 10. Frà Garnier de Naplous 1190 - 119211. Frà Geoffroy de Donjon 1193 - 1202 12. Frà Afonso de Portugal 1202 - 1206 13. Frà Geoffroy le Rat 1206 - 1207 14. Frà Garin de Montaigu 1207 - 1227 15. Frà Bertrand de Thessy 1228 - 1231 16. Frà Guérin Lebrun 1231 - 1236 17. Frà Bertrand de Comps 1236 - 1239 18. Frà Pierre de Vieille-Brioude 1240 - 1242 19. Frà Guillaume de Châteauneuf 1243 - 1258 20. Frà Hugues de Revel 1258 - 1277 21. Frà Nicolas Lorgne 1277 - 1288 22. Frà Jean de Villiers 1288 - 1293 Cyprus 23. Frà Odon de Pins 1294 - 1296 24. Frà Guillaume de Villaret 1296 - 1305Rhodos 25. Frà Foulques de Villaret 1305 - 1319 26. Frà Hélion de Villeneuve 1319 - 1346 27. Frà Dieudonné de Gozon 1346 - 1353 28. Frà Pierre de Corneillan 1353 - 135529. Frà Roger de Pins 1355 - 136530. Frà Raymond Bérenger 1365 - 137431. Frà Robert de Juilly 1374 - 137632. Frà Juan Fernandez de Heredia 1376 - 1396 (33. Frà Riccardo Caracciolo 1383 - 1395) 34. Frà Philibert de Naillac 1396 - 1421 35. Frà Antonio de Fluviá 1421 - 1437 36. Frà Jean de Lastic 1437 - 1454 37. Frà Jacques de Milly 1454 - 1461 38. Frà Raimundo Zacosta 1461 - 1467 39. Frà Govanni Battista Orsini 1467 - 1476 40. Frà Pierre d’Aubusson, kardinaal 1476 - 150341. Frà Emery d’Amboise 1503 - 1512 42. Frà Guy de Blanchefort 1512 - 1513 43. Frà Fabrizio del Carretto 1513 - 1521 Malta 44. Frà Philippe Villiers de l’Isle-Adam 1521 - 1534 45. Frà Pietrino del Ponte 1534 - 1535 46. Frà Didier de Tholon Saint-Jalle 1535 - 1536 47. Frà Juan de Homedes y Coscón 1536 - 1553 48. Frà Claude de la Sengle 1553 - 1557 49. Frà Jean Parisot de la Valette 1557 - 1568 50. Frà Pietro del Monte 1568 - 1572 51. Frà Jean l’Evêque de la Cassière 1572 - 1581 52. Frà Hugues Loubenx de Verdale, kardinaal 1582 - 1595 53. Frà Martin Garzés 1595 - 160154. Frà Alof de Wignacourt 1601 - 162255. Frà Luis Mendes de Vasconcellos 1622 - 1623 56. Frà Antoine de Paule 1623 - 1636 57. Frà Jean Baptiste Lascaris de Castellar 1636 - 1657 58. Frà Martin de Redín y Cruzat 1657 - 1660 59. Frà Annet de Clermont Gessan 1660 60. Frà Rafaël Cotoner y de Oleza 1660 - 1663 61. Frà Nicolas Cotoner y de Oleza 1663 - 1680 62. Frà Gregorio Carafa della Roccella 1680 - 1690 63. Frà Adrien de Wignacourt 1690 - 1697 64. Frà Ramón Perellos y Rocafull 1697 - 1720 65. Frà Marcantonio Zondadari 1720 - 1722 66. Frà Antonio Manoel de Vilhena 1722 - 1736 67. Frà Ramón Despuig y Martinez 1736 - 1741 68. Frà Manuel Pinto da Fonseca 1741 - 1773 69. Frà Francisco Ximenez de Texada 1773 - 1775 70. Frà Emmanuel de Rohan Polduc 1775 - 1797 71. Frà Ferdinand von Hompesch 1797 - 1799 Sint Petersburg 72. (de facto) Tsaar Paul I van Rusland 1798 - 1801 Catania 73. Frà Giovanni Battista Tommasi 1803 - 1805 Rome 74. Frà Johann Baptist Ceschi a Santa Croce 1879 - 1905 75. Frà Galeas von Thun und Hohenstein 1905 - 1931 76. Frà Ludovico Chigi Albani della Rovere 1931 - 1951 77. Frà Angelo de Mojana di Cologna 1962 - 1988 78. Frà Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie 1988 - 2008 Frà Andrew Bertie, behorende tot de Britse adel, werd geboren te Londen op 15 mei 1929. Na zijn opleiding aan het Benedictijner College of Ampleforth studeerde hij Moderne Geschiedenis aan het Christ Church College te Oxford en daarnaast Oosterse en Afrikaanse talen aan de Universiteit van Londen. Hij was officier van de Scots Guards. Ruim 23 jaar doceerde hij Frans, Spaans en Russisch aan de school van de Benedictijner Worth Abbey in Zuid-Engeland. In 1956 werd hij toegelaten tot de S.M.H. Orde van Malta. Vanaf 1962 gaf hij leiding aan de jaarlijkse Britse bedevaart naar Lourdes; hij is permanent lid van de Hospitalité de N.D. de Lourdes. In de jaren 1979-1981 was hij Regent van het Britse Sub-Prioraat van de ‘Blessed Adrian Fortescue’. In 1981 werd hij lid van de Souvereine Raad; op 8 april 1988 werd Frà Andrew gekozen tot 78e Grootmeester van de Orde. Hoewel Frà Andrew Bertie geen priester was, bekleedde hij wel de rang van RK Kardinaal. Frà Andrew Bertie overleed op 7 februari 2008. 79. Frà Matthew Festing 2008 -Frà Matthew Festing werd 11 maart 2008 in de Magistrale Villa van de Orde van Malta op de Aventijn in Rome gekozen als de opvolger van Fra' Andrew Bertie, de 78e Grootmeester (1988-2008). De nieuwe grootmeester is geboren in 1950, Engelsman, lid van de Orde van Malta sinds 1977, legde zijn eeuwige geloften af in 1991, en is sinds 1994 Grootprior van Engeland.
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Byzantium
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HE LATIN EMPIRE, 1185-1261, 76 years 1. ANGELI Isaac II Angelus1185-1195 Bulgaria independent, 1186 Third Crusade, 1189-1192; Cyprus seized from Isaac Comnenus by Richard the Lionheart, given to Guy of Lusignan, 1191 Alexius III1195-1203,
d.c.1211 Kingdom of Lesser Armenia independent, 1198-1375 Isaac II (restored)1203-1204 Alexius IV1203-1204 Alexius V Mourtzouphlos1204,
d.1204 Fourth Crusade, 1202-1204 Constantinope falls to Fourth Crusade, 1204 The worst and most disastrous dynasty in Roman history. Alexius IV brings in the Fourth Crusade, with impossible promises, to restore his incompetent father, and only succeeds in losing Constantinople to a foreign enemy for the first time ever. This may qualify as the true "Fall of Rome." The damage was bad enough, with many treasures and archives destroyed or carted off to Venice. Unlike the Goths at Rome in 410, the Crusaders stuck around for 60 years, with steadily decreasing success.
In 1195, Isaac II, or the new Emperor Alexius III, sent three Varangians on a mission to Scandinavia to seek recruits for the Varangian Guard -- this is revealing when previously Danish and Norwegian monarchs had themselves come to Constantinople. We are told that Hreiðarr sendimaðr (i.e. "the Messenger") went to Norway (to King Sverre), Pétr illska went to Denmark (to King Canute VI the Pious), and Sigurðr grikker ("the Greek") Oddsson went to Sweden (to Knut I or Sverker II). Hreiðarr had the toughest time that we know of, since Sverre, anticipating war, had no warriors to spare. Allowed to recruit among farmers and merchants, it is not clear that Hreiðarr, who became embroiled in local events, ever returned to Constantinople. On the other hand, Pétr may have returned with the actual Danes who were subsequently observed by Geoffroy de Villehardouin in 1203. There are many stories about Sigurðr Oddsson, but it is not clear whether his mission was successful. Since there are references to Englishmen but not to Scandinavians in the Varangian Guard of the Palaeologi, this may be last the time when Norse warriors actively traveled to Constantinople [cf. Blöndal and Benedikz, op.cit., pp.218-222].
Alexius III, having fled the Crusaders who installed Alexius IV and restored Isaac II, takes up residence at Mosynopolis in Thrace. Alexius V Mourtzouphlos, part of the popular reaction again the Crusaders and their friends, Alexius IV and Isaac II, conducted the last defense of the City but then fled. He sought refuge with Alexius III, who was, after all, is father-in-law, but who, however, had him blinded and expelled. Captured by some French Knights and returned to Constantinople, Mourtzouphlos was thrown to his death from the Column of Theodosius. Alexius III ultimately tries to get the Turks to defeat the Lascarids and install him at Nicaea. Unfortunately, Theodore Lascaris personally killed the Sultân of Rûm in single combat. Alexius is captured, blinded, and sent to a monastery. He dies, forgotten, some time after 1211.
In the Middle East, power was shared by three entities:
the Byzantine Empire, or the eastern half of the Roman Empire
the orthodox Sunni Muslims in control of Iran, Iraq and Syria
the Shia Muslims in Egypt.
The Byzantine Empire was shaken by the rise of the Seljuk Turks. The Seljuk Turks took lands that included almost all of Asia Minor from Byzantine hands. And they showed no signs of slowing toward the Byzantine capitol of Constantinople. The Seljuk Turks also began to obstruct Christians in their pilgrimages to Jerusalem.
The world at the time of the Crusades
Alexius I, the emperor of the Byzantine Empire, wanted to restore Byzantine control over Asia Minor and northern Syria, but he couldn't do it by himself. Feudalism in Western Europe had led to the rise of knights, so he knew where he could tap military strength. He reached out to the leader of the Western church: Pope Urban II.
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And I will leave you with a line that he likes to end with after he dumps a load of data on you.
The post above and this one are just the first 4 links he has posted under FTW - RTJ-DEV.
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Byzantium
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HE LATIN EMPIRE, 1185-1261, 76 years 1. ANGELI Isaac II Angelus1185-1195 Bulgaria independent, 1186 Third Crusade, 1189-1192; Cyprus seized from Isaac Comnenus by Richard the Lionheart, given to Guy of Lusignan, 1191 Alexius III1195-1203,
d.c.1211 Kingdom of Lesser Armenia independent, 1198-1375 Isaac II (restored)1203-1204 Alexius IV1203-1204 Alexius V Mourtzouphlos1204,
d.1204 Fourth Crusade, 1202-1204 Constantinope falls to Fourth Crusade, 1204 The worst and most disastrous dynasty in Roman history. Alexius IV brings in the Fourth Crusade, with impossible promises, to restore his incompetent father, and only succeeds in losing Constantinople to a foreign enemy for the first time ever. This may qualify as the true "Fall of Rome." The damage was bad enough, with many treasures and archives destroyed or carted off to Venice. Unlike the Goths at Rome in 410, the Crusaders stuck around for 60 years, with steadily decreasing success.
In 1195, Isaac II, or the new Emperor Alexius III, sent three Varangians on a mission to Scandinavia to seek recruits for the Varangian Guard -- this is revealing when previously Danish and Norwegian monarchs had themselves come to Constantinople. We are told that Hreiðarr sendimaðr (i.e. "the Messenger") went to Norway (to King Sverre), Pétr illska went to Denmark (to King Canute VI the Pious), and Sigurðr grikker ("the Greek") Oddsson went to Sweden (to Knut I or Sverker II). Hreiðarr had the toughest time that we know of, since Sverre, anticipating war, had no warriors to spare. Allowed to recruit among farmers and merchants, it is not clear that Hreiðarr, who became embroiled in local events, ever returned to Constantinople. On the other hand, Pétr may have returned with the actual Danes who were subsequently observed by Geoffroy de Villehardouin in 1203. There are many stories about Sigurðr Oddsson, but it is not clear whether his mission was successful. Since there are references to Englishmen but not to Scandinavians in the Varangian Guard of the Palaeologi, this may be last the time when Norse warriors actively traveled to Constantinople [cf. Blöndal and Benedikz, op.cit., pp.218-222].
Alexius III, having fled the Crusaders who installed Alexius IV and restored Isaac II, takes up residence at Mosynopolis in Thrace. Alexius V Mourtzouphlos, part of the popular reaction again the Crusaders and their friends, Alexius IV and Isaac II, conducted the last defense of the City but then fled. He sought refuge with Alexius III, who was, after all, is father-in-law, but who, however, had him blinded and expelled. Captured by some French Knights and returned to Constantinople, Mourtzouphlos was thrown to his death from the Column of Theodosius. Alexius III ultimately tries to get the Turks to defeat the Lascarids and install him at Nicaea. Unfortunately, Theodore Lascaris personally killed the Sultân of Rûm in single combat. Alexius is captured, blinded, and sent to a monastery. He dies, forgotten, some time after 1211.
In the Middle East, power was shared by three entities:
the Byzantine Empire, or the eastern half of the Roman Empire
the orthodox Sunni Muslims in control of Iran, Iraq and Syria
the Shia Muslims in Egypt.
The Byzantine Empire was shaken by the rise of the Seljuk Turks. The Seljuk Turks took lands that included almost all of Asia Minor from Byzantine hands. And they showed no signs of slowing toward the Byzantine capitol of Constantinople. The Seljuk Turks also began to obstruct Christians in their pilgrimages to Jerusalem.
The world at the time of the Crusades
Alexius I, the emperor of the Byzantine Empire, wanted to restore Byzantine control over Asia Minor and northern Syria, but he couldn't do it by himself. Feudalism in Western Europe had led to the rise of knights, so he knew where he could tap military strength. He reached out to the leader of the Western church: Pope Urban II.
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Alexius I
(1048 – August 15, 1118), Byzantine emperor (1081–-1118), was the third son of John Comnenus, the nephew of Isaac I Comnenus (emperor 1057-–1059).
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Alexius I Comnenus welcomes Godfrey of Bouillon
John II Comnenus
(September 13, 1087 – April 8, 1143) was Byzantine emperor from 1118 to 1143. Also known as Kaloioannes (John the Beautiful), he was the eldest son of the emperor Alexius and Irene Ducaena. He succeeded his father in 1118.
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Family
John married Piroska in 1104; the marriage was intended as compensation for the loss of some territories to King Coloman of Hungary. She played little part in government, devoting herself to piety and their large brood of children. Piroska died on August 13, 1134 and was later venerated as Saint Eirene. John and Piroska had eight children:
Alexius Comnenus, co-emperor, died 1142
Maria Comnena, twin to Alexius, married Ioannes Dalassenos Rogerios
Andronikos Comnenus (died 1142)
Isaakios Comnenus (died 1154)
Manuel I Comnenus (died 1180)
Anna Comnena, married Stephanos Kontostephanos
Theodora Comnena, married Manuel Anemas
Eudokia Comnena, married Theodoros Vatazes
Manuel I Comnenus
(November 28, 1118 – September 24, 1180), was a Byzantine Emperor of the 12th century AD who presided over a crucial turning point in the history of Byzantium and the Mediterranean. Eager to restore his empire to its past glories as the superpower of the Mediterranean world, Manuel pursued an energetic and ambitious foreign policy. In the process he made alliances with the Pope and the resurgent west, invaded Italy, successfully handled the passage of the dangerous Second Crusade through his empire, and established a Byzantine protectorate over the Crusader kingdoms of Outremer. Facing the Islamic jihad in the Holy Land, he made common cause with the Kingdom of Jerusalem and participated in a combined invasion of Fatimid Egypt. Manuel reshaped the political map of the Balkans and the east Mediterranean, placing the kingdoms of Hungary and Outremer under Byzantine hegemony and campaigning aggressively against his neighbours both in the west and in the east. However, towards the end of his reign Manuel's achievements in the east were compromised by an embarrassing defeat at Myriokephalon, which in large part resulted from his arrogance in attacking a well-defended Turkish position.
Family
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Manuel had two wives. His first marriage, in 1146, was to Bertha of Sulzbach, a sister-in-law of Conrad III of Germany. She died in 1159. Children:
Maria Comnena (1152-1182), wife of Renier of Montferrat.
Anna Comnena (1154-1158).
Manuel's second marriage was to Maria (renamed Xena upon their marriage), a daughter of Raymond and Constance of Antioch, in 1161. His successor, Alexius II Comnenus, was their son.
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Manuel Comenus and his family
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Alexius II Comnenus
(September 10, 1169 – October 1183), Byzantine emperor (1180-1183), was the son of emperor Manuel I Comnenus and Maria, daughter of Raymund, prince of Antioch. He was the long-awaited male heir, and was named Alexius.
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Their party was defeated (May 2, 1182), but Andronicus Comnenus took advantage of these disorders to aim at the crown, entered Constantinople, where he was received with almost divine honours, and overthrew the regents. His arrival was celebrated by a massacre of the Latins in Constantinople, especially the Venetian merchants, which he made no attempt to stop. He allowed Alexius to be crowned, but forced him to consent to the death of all his friends, including his mother, his sister and the Caesar, and refused to allow him the smallest voice in public affairs.
The betrothal in 1180 of Alexius with Agnes of France , daughter of Louis VII of France and his third wife Adèle of Champagne and at the time a child of nine, was quashed. Andronicus was now formally proclaimed as co-emperor, and not long afterwards, on the pretext that divided rule was injurious to the Empire, he caused Alexius to be strangled with a bow-string (October 1183).
Andronicus I Comnenus
(c.1118-1185), Byzantine emperor, son of prince Isaac Comnenus, and grandson of Alexius I Comnenus, was born about the beginning of the 12th century. His birth has been estimated to c. 1118. He was endowed by nature with the most remarkable gifts both of mind and body. He was handsome and eloquent, but licentious; and at the same time active, hardy, courageous, a great general and an able politician.
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Andronicus seems then to have resolved to exterminate the aristocracy, and his plans were nearly crowned with success. But in 1185, during his absence from the capital, his lieutenant ordered the arrest and execution of Isaac Angelus, a descendant of the first Alexius. Isaac escaped and took refuge in the church of Hagia Sophia. He appealed to the populace, and a tumult arose which spread rapidly over the whole city. When Andronicus arrived he found that his power was overthrown, and that Isaac had been proclaimed emperor. Isaac delivered him over to his enemies, and for three days he was exposed to their fury and resentment. His punishments included flogging, being tied to the back of a sick camel and having boiling water thrown in his face. At last they hung him up by the feet between two pillars. His dying agonies were shortened by an Italian soldier, who mercifully plunged a sword into his body. He died on September 12, 1185. Andronicus was the last of the Comneni to rule Constantinople, although his grandsons Alexius I of Trebizond and his brother David founded the Empire of Trebizond in 1204.
Isaac II Angelus
(or Isaakios Angelos) (September 1156-1204), was the Byzantine emperor from 1185-1195, and again 1203-1204. He was a grandson of Theodora Comnena Porphyrogenita, youngest daughter of Emperor Alexius I, and thus a member of the extended imperial clan.
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Family
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The identity of Isaac's first wife is unknown, but her name, Herina, is found on the necrology of Speyer Cathedral, where their daughter Irene is interred. His wife Herina may have been a member of the Palaeologus family; she was dead or divorced by 1185, when Isaac remarried. Their children were:
Euphrosyne Angelina, a nun.
Irene Angelina, married first to Roger III of Sicily, and secondly to Philip of Swabia
Alexius IV Angelus
By his second wife, Margaret of Hungary, Isaac had two sons:
Ioannes Angelus
Manuel Angelus
Byzantium Rulers (continuation)
Alexius III Angelus (1195-1203)
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Alexius III Angelus had to deal almost immediately with the German threat. Henry VI was demanding that Byzantium yield the territories conquered by the Normans, by virtue of Henry's claims through his Norman wife. Moreover, Henry's brother Philip of Swabia was married to Irene, the daughter of the now-deposed Isaac II, giving Henry a second claim and reason to invade. Henry's grand plan was to invade and conquer the Byzantine Empire, then use that as a launching ground for a crusade to the Holy Land. He was claiming that as the heir to the Roman Empire at Rome, his imperial title was superior to the Greek title. The kings of Cyprus and Cilicia were already recognizing his suzerainty.
Henry was able to set his crusade in motion, but he himself died in 1197. Some German armies did march east, but they went to Palestine, not to Byzantium. Fortune again reprieved the Empire. But the reprieve was only temporary. Serbia was restless. Bulgaria threatened. The Turks would take advantage of any unrest. Germany was sunk in civil war, but Venice and the papacy still had powerful reasons to want to take advantage of Constantinople's misfortunes.
When the Fourth Crusade showed up with Alexius IV in tow, ostensibly to restore Isaac II, Alexius III put up a token resistance and then fled the city. The Crusaders installed Isaac and Alexius as co-emperors in 1203, but the Latins and Greeks soon quarreled. One of Alexius III's sons-in law, Alexius Ducas, called Murzuphlus, seized the throne in January 1204, and had Isaac and Alexius imprisoned. Both soon were dead.
researchers have a very high standard to meet, and copying out ofr history books to my mind doesn't meet it. I shall have to research his other contributions.
I agree and was surprised myself when the thought of patronizing a researcher (him) crossed my mind. Pedro does more, he researchers many resources to get the best data, and is very knowledgable right of the top of his head. I think that is real important, he is a studied individual, and a good person. He has been on my team for 7 or 8 months I think and has been a steady presence in my dev forum even in the slower times, that all mods seem to go through. He has done or help put together very detailed, faction rosters, family trees, unit descriptions, map/settlment placement, unit skin details, and more. He will be the reason my mod will be believable. Without him and Stephan who is a good researcher in his own right and will be here for the rank of Artifex sometime in the future, my mod wouldn't be half of what it will be. (If that makes since )
Ok, guys I'm done sorry should have done a better job describing his contributions. I will leave the rest up to you.
Like tBP, I am concerned that wading through all of the scan and paste posts I am not seeing a contribution from the applicant himself. He uses the library and a scanner. If that is all there is to being a citizen, I should like to restart my membership here and see what I can accomplish in 90 days.
Seriously, can you point out 5 posts that show his ability to contribute among all of the threads you have listed that does not include scanning?
Grandson of Silver Guard, son of Maverick, and father to Mr MM|Rebel6666|Beer Money |bastard stepfather to Ferrets54 The Scriptorium is looking for great articles. Don't be bashful, we can help with the formatting and punctuation. I am only a pm away to you becoming a published author within the best archive of articles around. Post a challenge and start a debate Garb's Fight Club - the Challenge thread
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Weighing into threads with the steel capped boots on just because you disagree with my viewpoints, is just embarrassing.
Originally Posted by Hagar_the_Horrible
As you journey through life take a minute every now and then to give a thought for the other fellow. He could be plotting something.
I will not post all that he has done because this will be made public and this is still in development for my mod. If he doesn't pass I will wait for my mod to release and post it all. Warning they all contain pictures but that is how he roles. All the post below are just for faction rosters. This guys work is invaulable for a mod. 3 examples should be enough if it isn't enough with the rest he has and I have posted then vote no. I would not have patronized him if I didn't think he deserved it.
(Take out the pics and you have a faction rosters, but he puts them in so skinners and modlers have something to work with right away)
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Unit Roster for Assassins Faction
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Assassins/Hashshashin
Shooters
Nizari (that's the name they were called to the people who have the religion of the Hashshashin) Archers
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Fidai Archers (Aprentise)
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Hashshashin Archers (Elite) - Only recruited in the gardens of Heaven
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Infantary
Nizari Infantary
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Fidai Infantary(Aprentise)
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Hashshashin(Elite) - Only recruited in the gardens of Heaven
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Guards of Paradise (best assassin unit)
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Cavalary
Nizari Cavalary (Archer) And something like this.
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Fidai Cavalary ((Aprentise) + Scout) Something like this
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Hashshashin (Elite) - Only recruited in the gardens of Heaven (maybe the only have swords no spears)
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Done Assassins hope you like it.
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EMIRATE OF ALEPPO
Infantary:
Muslim Peasant
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Ghazis Frontiersmen (light infantry) - Armed with Axe “pulta”
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Aleppo Guardsman (City militia) - Aleppo city militia called the Ahdath - They were formed from the local Arab population, usually weren't well armed and served in the vicinity of their city.
Shamm Asaker (Heavy Infantaryman) ( large heavy mace “Lion head mace” + round shield)
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Heavy Ghulams (Heavy Spear + lion mace head “heavy mace” + round shield)
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Something like this but with a Shield
Jund Dar “Mountains Frontiers” (Heavy Infantry)
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Shooters
Al-Ashair (light Archer) - were semi-nomadic Syro-Palestinian or Lebanese Druse who were armed with bow or sling.
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Turkish Crossbow (Medium Archer)
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Aleppo Archers (Medium Archer)
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Turkish light Archer
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Armenian Ghulams (Swords + Javelins +metal shields)
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African Hand-Gunner
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Cavalary
Syrian light horse can either be Bedouin Arabs armed with a light cane lance and shield or Turkoman horse archers armed with a composite bow.
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Ghazis (Medium Horse Archer)
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Tawashi cavalaryman (Medium Horse Archer)
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Arab Cavalaryman (Medium Cavalary)
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Aleppo cavalry - (called Askars) (Medium Cavalary) seemed to have been armed with lance, sword and shield.
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Ghulan Cavalaryman - The ghulams were raised from a young age to be soldiers and were give wages or property.
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Auxiliary Troops
Syrian armies (indeed most Moslem armies of the period) could be supplemented by various foreign auxiliaries and mercenaries foot provided by Bedouin, Kurds, Armenians or tribal Turks. - These should typically be armed with javelins and shield, and others with Shield Spear and sword.
Ashir Syrian Auxilary (light Infantary) (Sword+ metal shield)
Kurdish Lancers (Heavy Cavalary) - Kurds are a culturally unique people with strong tribal organization, who live throughout the Middle East.
Something like this
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Bedouim Warrior
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EMIRATE OF DAMASKUS Roster
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INFANTARY
Muslim Peasant
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Ghazis Frontiersmen (light infantry) - Armed with Axe “pulta”
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Frontier Junds (axe + wooden shield) - Military centers known as junds (جند) were first established by CaliphUmar, For the purpose of army administration. These centers were set up at Madinah, Kufa, Basra, Mosul, Fustat, Damascus, Jordan and Palestine. At these centers and barracks were built for the residence of troops.
Tabardariyyais to guard the Sultan and the palace (Elite troop). Armed with a large axe, 'tabar', similar to a traditional Scandinavian axe.
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Auxiliary Troops
Syrian armies (indeed most Moslem armies of the period) could be supplemented by various foreign auxiliaries and mercenaries foot provided by Bedouin, Kurds, Armenians or tribal Turks. - These should typically be armed with javelins and shield, and others with Shield Spear and sword. *Ex: Ashir Syrian Auxilary (light Infantary) (Sword+ metal shield)
Your supporting files are suffering from data load. I left the computer for an hour and they still have not all loaded. Sigh.
I am certain there is both a real need and a real set of skills to assemble the correct data for the modding team to use. Even scanning and pasting has a use to spread information to those without direct access to materials.
I am in a big urban center with several public and university library systems. I have no doubt that the materials are both available and of the quality needed to the modding team to perform their jobs. I am certain that there is a time factor to find and post such materials.
My concern is the money question -- are such contributions by themselves sufficient to justify the rank of citizen? Is this all the applicant has done?
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Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere
Weighing into threads with the steel capped boots on just because you disagree with my viewpoints, is just embarrassing.
Originally Posted by Hagar_the_Horrible
As you journey through life take a minute every now and then to give a thought for the other fellow. He could be plotting something.
I have highspeed access and page loads in 30 seconds. Most patrons don't have the opportunity to argue their case for a member and I don't want to look as if I'm taking advantage of my position. Again it is tough to judge a good researcher. You ask someone for something and they are back in 2 minutes posting something they just googled, doesn't qualify as a good researcher. When you ask someone something and they come back hours later and have a ton of info on the subject and you feel they have spent hours accumilating data what is the difference with me spending a couple of hours on a unit skin? So is a skinner enough for citizenship? I say yes if he is really talented, and I feel Pedro is very very good at what he does.
If anyone feels like I am taking advantage of my position please speak up and I will with draw this application until I am no longer a CdeC member. We have PM'd patrons in the past to ask questions but still I'm not comfortable answering to many more questions. I should have done a better job with the initial application...
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Removed a bunch of pics from previous post, I hope you can view it now VP.
No you are not abusing your position. I am just trying to understand not just the applicants contributions, but the nature of why this is sufficient for the rank. I would expect the same interchange from you if you were not the patron. You know this side of the community and your thoughts on this matter are important. This is why it is important for the CdeC to hold a wide variety of members.
If the applicant was a graduate student, is this the type of research that a professor would be expecting to see? To put it differantly -- I am appreciative of his efforts to provide the access to actual materials and not just an armchair googling researcher. Does this also mean the applicant uses judgement and skills of an academic or is this more of a fetch and retrieve process?
Thanks for taking your time on this y2day!
For what it is worth, I think a yes vote is appropriate based upon your judgement and this discussion.
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Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere
Weighing into threads with the steel capped boots on just because you disagree with my viewpoints, is just embarrassing.
Originally Posted by Hagar_the_Horrible
As you journey through life take a minute every now and then to give a thought for the other fellow. He could be plotting something.
He uses judgment, and skill. Not sure of Pedro's formal education but I know he is very knowledgable on european history. When he decided to contribute to TWC he has tried to gain as much knowledge on every aspect of medieval times. His knowledge of his own countries history is outstanding. You can ask him anything about Portugal and he will give you a full report right of the top of his head. I have PM'd him to ask about formal schooling.
And thank you VP for dedicating yourself to being a great CdeC member.
Pedro's response after I asked him about his schooling. I can't say much more, Pedro is a great guy and one hell of a researcher.
I Have a High Degree in Management, and I almost finished High degree in Chemistry, in 2010 i'm going to the University to finished my degree in Chemistry.
My knowledge in History, particulary in Military History, is because I am a Professional Soldier of the Portuguese Army. The Military History makes Part of the curriculum of my course in the Superior College (Military Academy).
I spent 3 + 2 years in the Superior College so it's natural that i know a little of History (Special the Military History of my Country).
That's why I have plenty of Books (special in Military History).
I have no degree in History, but I have some Knowledge of History, I have acess of information in our Military Museum (Museu Militar de Lisboa) and in the Historical Military archive.
Portugal History is very rich, we have almost 1000 years of History, so as you know the information is very large. Of course sometimes i used information from the internet, but most of them are from my books.
I'm in the Army since i was 19 years old.
My rank is Lieutenant, almost Captain.
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Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere
Weighing into threads with the steel capped boots on just because you disagree with my viewpoints, is just embarrassing.
Originally Posted by Hagar_the_Horrible
As you journey through life take a minute every now and then to give a thought for the other fellow. He could be plotting something.
An endorsement like that is worth it's weight. I feel that he has distinguished himself and risen above what we consider to be the average researcher base don what I have seen.
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Most patrons don't have the opportunity to argue their case for a member and I don't want to look as if I'm taking advantage of my position. Again it is tough to judge a good researcher. You ask someone for something and they are back in 2 minutes posting something they just googled, doesn't qualify as a good researcher. When you ask someone something and they come back hours later and have a ton of info on the subject and you feel they have spent hours accumilating data what is the difference with me spending a couple of hours on a unit skin? So is a skinner enough for citizenship? I say yes if he is really talented, and I feel Pedro is very very good at what he does.
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