Why doesnt the point system work?

[Kjertesvein]

1). Its simple, as the topic says: why?

2). Can we fix it, atleast in the short run?

3). I can't specify directly what the issue is( maybe you can).

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From what I hear, it's about military points only working when the general, with banner is stationed in a military settlement.
I got 6 points at the time.

I have not gained any governor points either. Even thou, I got all of modern turkey (20 regions) and 2nd level governours.
I got 0 points at the time.

[Xtiaan72]

It's such a bummer....No gov point bonuses for treasury either ( 30,000 +, 60,000 +)

[Taiji]

I don't think I am having a problem... I had 30 in each at 1200 in my last campaign and this time it's 30 of 1 and 20 of the other (those heroic victories are escaping me).

[Elvallie]

For me it's working ok. It's hard to earn government points, but my tactic is: diplomatic arrangements ONE AT A TIME: trade rights, then alliance, then map info, then other, then other... It can be in the same turn, but do one at a time. After that, treasury over 60k florins. And good governors.

It's hard, but I have maxed my gov points.

[Taiji]

Very good advice Elvallie

[Kjertesvein]

Well, Either tell what -specs you have installed, -what faction, -popups accepted, -campaing activated, etc.

or

Try the same campaign as I. Because I didnt get 1 single diplomat mission playing as Turks & with the specs named above.

Then see if you et points from the banners.

[Xtiaan72]

I know for sure the treasury gov point script doesn't work for Venice for one. This is the best gov script because you get gov points but at the expense of corruption....which is an interesting trade off

But Mil points are working fine for me for whatever faction...

Trouncing around the globe with a diplomat may work....But it's tedious man.... and the ancillary bonuses are very hit or miss....random? I've gone whole games without getting one and others I have multiple characters get them

There are -gov points you can't avoid...Like when they ask you to take a city or blockade a port that will mess up your whole strategy...So if you can only depend on Diplomatic points, it's really two steps forward, one step back....

[Taiji]

I do the incessant diplomat thing for authority more than anything, 1198 and my king has +2 auth from diplomacy. Of course I also do it to keep in touch, sometimes they want something...

[Xtiaan72]

I guess I'm just a lazy bastard!

[Taiji]

Don't worry mate, I am too. In fact now I begin to relate it this seems kinda lame... basically I'll call a crusade and send a diplomat to talk to everyone who turns up

I will also send troops eventually, but it means I can get a lot done with one dip.

There are more natural ways to do it like sending one to northern italy to work the HRE, Milan, Venice and Papal States circuit.

As long as you keep attacking rebels you'll have something to talk about

[Xtiaan72]

Well, I'm certainly getting my share of that playing Scotland!

[Elvallie]

I'm playing as León y Castilla, historical campaign vh/vh, every script but Total War. Military points work fine, the hard ones are gov points.

[repman]

Governor\generals with their rank\magistratus ancilliaries need to be in their settlements to collect points.
Only a treasury > 50000 give gov points

repman

[Xtiaan72]

Thanks Repman.... Good to know

[Taiji]

I hadn't realised that, that's really cool

[Sherhi]

i am at 0 all the time too, sometimes it goes to one when i sign trade agreement but next turn it goes back to 0. Im also spying every turn and it does not have any influence at all

[Balsm]

I recently tried a campaign with the point system turned off and had alot of fun with it. For me keeping track of points was getting to be a bit of a chore so I tried without. It allows me to forget about that part of micromanagement. Defiently give it a shot if you find the point system is ruining your experience