!!!!Point Blank's "Real Combat + Recruitment" for 1.4.1 (doesn't work with 2.1)!!!!

[LuiSius_ScutaRuS]

When do you get the ctd?.

The above has nothing to do witha ctd, thats a spill over from the extended Gondorian line mod, since it contains ages greater than 120, which is set as the highest age in the database, its reporting it as an error, but you should also have a invalid tile for Imrahil as well.

I said I get NO CTD, I was just wondering what it was, and if it's normal

[Hanny]

I said I get NO CTD, I was just wondering what it was, and if it's normal

Easy, i only asked you when do you get a ctd. I then explained for you what you were seeing, and advised you it is not causing the ctds your no getting.

[Kapone20]

PB hows is next update coming along? xD

[Cincinatus]

I think I found some solutions to the imbalance of some unit types.

In the data folder units already exist that could shore up the lacking elements for Dunlendings, Dale, though not goblins yet. (( Incidentally, why do the goblin wargs cost more to get and more upkeep, yet only has one more rider, and minimal difference in stats from isengard wargs?))

Add Woodsmen, as a unit before you get bandits, to give it some solid good and logical better infantry for Eriador.

Add Ranger Sentries as a archer calvary to Dale, cause they are a archer and a horseman culture, if anyone in the game has archer calvary, it would be them logically yes?

Add at least Huntsman and english huscarls (or berdachie axemen or sword staff militia) though for huscarls, a different unit name, to units available in dunland, (they need units dangerous to calvary if they were ever a threat which the very game descriptions say they were, these units give them at least one heavy infantry dangerous to calvary and a javlin thrower dangerous for calvary, and a much better and more diverse unit mix for the dunland area.

Make upkeep and cost cheaper, at least for the bottom rung horseman (scouts) for rohan and the bottom rung infantry and archers costlier to encourage a more realistic dependency mostly on horseman units for rohan, plus, when I play against rohan they ALWAYS seem to be far too aggressive and expand to rapidly with LOTS of infantry units more like gondor, and often attack isengard way TOO early.

For the goblins, could they get like a sniper archer unit or something to diversify them a little more? and maybe one more infantry type, perhaps a sort of goblin spear man to give them something between their top infantry units and their cheap bottom tier light infantry units?

Harad, could have a cheapie peasant like unit (maybe peasants and peasant archers with some tweeking?), cause it is described they can gather MASSES of troops, yet they are soo strained economically in the beginning, that is if you are harad, that it is hard to even develop into a threat let alone build a huge army of anything.

[Point Blank]

Gondor Infantry and spearmen don't have "good stamina" when even corsairs do. Is this as it should be? I also suggest that pelargir marines be more like balcloth tribesmen from the javelin throw perspective. It's quite inconvenient when they have the "javelin throw before charge". I either want them to charge OR throw javelins, not both. When I want them to empty their ammunition, they instead charge after the first throw, even in guard mode. It isn't too hard to make them charge manually when you want.

Guard mode does stop them charging. Or, you could open the units file, find the Marines and remove the 'prec' attrribute from the attack attributes.

It is intended that most Gondor units are not hardy (though some are, eg rangers, swan knights etc), they are meant to be citizen soldiers and not typically from tough upbringings in the wild etc. This balances out their being very well armored.

Looks like the balance of power has really shifted to the good side.

I have a question regarding Uruk-Hais from Isengard. Am I wrong in believing that they have very high production rate? It seems like it in the books and the movies. If so, should we increase the replenish rate?

They have a high replacement rate.

Any idea that balance has shifted to the good side is for one reason only - that in the last version, no state of war exists at the start of the campaign. That will be optional in the next update.

coss of you i want to try it... if i can help you...
now i have clean lore instalation with ring mod and works well...i will let you know how it will be after i copy that data files...

i have found some error in my system log...im using rc/rr 18.sep version plus ring mod
10:59:23.484 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 10962, column 3
Building DB error - faction turks has gap in building prior to northsouthroad
10:59:23.484 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 10962, column 3
Building DB error - faction turks has gap in building prior to c_northsouthroad
is it big problem? how can i fix it?

This is not a problem and is a side effect of how roads are implemented.

PB is there something wrong with this errors?

18:32:49.746 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 10962, column 3
Building DB error - faction turks has gap in building prior to northsouthroad
18:32:49.746 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 10962, column 3
Building DB error - faction turks has gap in building prior to c_northsouthroad
18:40:15.879 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 604, column 85
you have chosen an invalid tile(176, 108) for Imrahil (sicily)
18:40:15.880 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 630, column 39
Turgon age(126) is greater than the maximum permitted age(120)
18:40:15.881 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 631, column 43
Barathel age(122) is greater than the maximum permitted age(120)
18:40:15.881 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 632, column 38
Turin age(159) is greater than the maximum permitted age(120)
18:40:15.881 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 633, column 41
Taesel age(155) is greater than the maximum permitted age(120)
18:40:15.886 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 1017, column 87
you have chosen an invalid tile(181, 156) for Theodred (milan)

I get no CTD and everything is stable, i'm just wondering, that's all

No problems there.

PB hows is next update coming along? xD

Don't know, just had some surgery yesterday and feeling pretty bad.

Gve Gandalf a special hero ability, 'Light of the Valar', which nicely counteracts the 'Terror of the Witch King' ability.

Have completed implementing Lifespan mod code. However, that limits the game to 66 years/ 264 turns. Should we do as TNZ did in his mod, make each turn 2 months rather than 3, so the game is then 396 turns?

[Kapone20]

Have completed implementing Lifespan mod code. However, that limits the game to 66 years/ 264 turns. Should we do as TNZ did in his mod, make each turn 2 months rather than 3, so the game is then 396 turns?

Yes I think you should do 2 months we have more turns.
What kind of surgery did you go on?

[Point Blank]

I had the parts of my brain that handle TATW lobotomized

Turns now 2 months. Faramir, Boromir, Theodred and Eomer now appear at the correct time, which means some waiting.

Also, I just set up the the campaign where factions start at war, as they originally did, as a custom campaign, so all the player has to do is choose which one they want to play by clicking on it. There are minor balance changes between the two.

Rohan horses now have a little more impact mass due to larger size, breeding etc.

Added TNZ's code so that the player can choose whether to have all units buildable at the start without waiting for events.

Added 'Voice of Saruman' hero ability that causes enemy troops to become inactive for a time.

[Juli]

Just found something weird: As of latest version, Gondor Archers have "area" secondary attack (IE their swords cause area damage)

[TiFlo]

2 months turns sound great. Especially considering the ingame travelling distances. Now it wont take 2 years for an Eldar army to cross Middle Earth and help Gondor.

PS: Speedy recovery PB!

[Soul Firez]

hope you feel better PB is it now 2 months with only 1 season of winter i did that for someone way back in the 1.1 days when they wanted to get rid of winter was best compramise to keep aging going LOL .

I did notice that farimir and that where there at start but didnt mind it strangely Oh and will these changes now render it incompatable with the ring mod (anythoughts of adding that to your awesome list of add ons )

[Point Blank]

Just found something weird: As of latest version, Gondor Archers have "area" secondary attack (IE their swords cause area damage)

Heh, you're right! Good catch Thanks

[Point Blank]

hope you feel better PB is it now 2 months with only 1 season of winter i did that for someone way back in the 1.1 days when they wanted to get rid of winter was best compramise to keep aging going LOL .

I did notice that farimir and that where there at start but didnt mind it strangely Oh and will these changes now render it incompatable with the ring mod (anythoughts of adding that to your awesome list of add ons )

6 turns/year, 2 of those will be winter.

Ring mod will need to be updated. That guy must really dislike me, he needs to keep updating his mod lol. However, there is something in the Ring mod that causes Sauron to emerge before scheduled (was turn 40 with 3 month turns, now turn 60 with 2 month turns). I don't know, even with 2 month turns, should Sauron emerge at turn 40 anyway?

[Pypok]

Just wanted to thank PB for the mod.

I have been playing Total War games since shogun total war. And by far, and of all the mods, I love TATW + your submod the best! Thank you very much!


Can't wait for the update where the factions start at war again!

[Triclope]

Just a problem i see when my army conquer Minas Morgul...
The tower of sorcely is represented by an image from RTW, and Minas Morgul has a tower named Barad Dur...

[Point Blank]

Louis Lux did a new Morgul graphic for next update

Playing a test game as Isengard, Wars on at start (custom campaign), all barracks levels buildable at start (optional when the game starts, thanks to TNZ for code), getting hammered by Rohan - I love it when the AI beats me. Saruman has been given a very long line-of-sight, so he sees a lot that goes on around Isengard, even though he can't move from there. He was seiged once but his Voice of Saruman ability turned the tide

[Momus]

@PB - Where are the hidden resources? (as in, in which file?) As I think that may be my problem some how.

I have completely uninstalled TATW and then removed all traces of it and now reinstalled and still the same problem with recruitment .....

Add Ranger Sentries as a archer calvary to Dale, cause they are a archer and a horseman culture, if anyone in the game has archer calvary, it would be them logically yes?

I never heard of any rangers in Dale......different name possibly but I like them the way they are

Make upkeep and cost cheaper, at least for the bottom rung horseman (scouts) for rohan and the bottom rung infantry and archers costlier to encourage a more realistic dependency mostly on horseman units for rohan, plus, when I play against rohan they ALWAYS seem to be far too aggressive and expand to rapidly with LOTS of infantry units more like gondor, and often attack isengard way TOO early.

Yeah I agree here but I think that Isengard and Mordor should be given higher replenishment rates - their orcs etc were mass produced


[QUOTE=Cincinatus;6017548]For the goblins, could they get like a sniper archer unit[QUOTE]

You have got to be taking the piss mate......

[Asparagus]

Sorry you're feeling under the weather PB. Are the Isengard Berserkers mean to have two hp?

[Point Blank]

Yes.

Momus: hidden resources are defined in TATW/data/maps/base/descr_regions.

[BigChef]

Louis Lux did a new Morgul graphic for next update

Playing a test game as Isengard, Wars on at start (custom campaign), all barracks levels buildable at start (optional when the game starts, thanks to TNZ for code), getting hammered by Rohan - I love it when the AI beats me. Saruman has been given a very long line-of-sight, so he sees a lot that goes on around Isengard, even though he can't move from there. He was seiged once but his Voice of Saruman ability turned the tide

This is great, but please have a look at the good factions too, the game should not be too easy.

When can we await the next update?

Thanks for your great work, please keep it up.

[TiFlo]

Not to open the old can of worms again, but now that you're going for 6 months per year PB, don't the building times need to be adjusted?