why???
oh and vote for ireland even if we dont deserve it
why???
oh and vote for ireland even if we dont deserve it
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Are the men that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry,
And all their songs are sad.
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why not? It would be the next logical step after taking Russia in...Sometimes I think the guys in Brussels are rebuilding the Roman Empire ... and more.
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Ya, Israel is also in all of the European Football tournies, wierd stuff. :blink
Then again, so is turkey.
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i think russia will be allowed in eventually seing as europe is from the kerry penusulia to the ural mountains i think turkey will be allowed in because of its long history with europe but israel? israel is going a bit far now i mean its in the middle east and almost in africa :ermwhy not? It would be the next logical step after taking Russia in
persoanally ive alwways belived this but i see an ireland severly unhappy at loosing its neutral statusYes yes the EU is a revised Roman empire...soon the armies of Europe will be combined as one
From the great Gales of Ireland
Are the men that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry,
And all their songs are sad.
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You mean the Russian federation might consider letting the EU join?Originally posted by lecnac@May 19 2005, 03:14 PM
why not? It would be the next logical step after taking Russia in...Sometimes I think the guys in Brussels are rebuilding the Roman Empire ... and more.
If only we were so lucky, Russian democracy doesn't have a very good name in the world but it's still 1000 times more democratic as the EU.
I've wondered about Israel too (but not too long because I realy don't give a damn about the song festifal).
I think since they can't get along with any of their own neighbours they have to look at the next continent to find somebody to have sporting and other competitions with.
But I don't know why Europe lets them play with us, because we have no conection to that country.
How do you figure that?If only we were so lucky, Russian democracy doesn't have a very good name in the world but it's still 1000 times more democratic as the EU.
Israel is always in european competitions because it would be impossible for them to play against their neighbours.
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Well, I never really considered it so, as we only had 2 candidates, Putin, and some Communist guy who stood no chance, but still got 14(?)%Originally posted by Portuguese Rebel@May 19 2005, 05:51 PM
How do you figure that?
Israel is always in european competitions because it would be impossible for them to play against their neighbours.
I know its weird, but Shiri Maymon is superbly hot, so I'll forgive her :w00t . Oh she sings well too *tongue*
Sorry about Ireland not making the final, but the song wasnt that great :whistle Still much better than Moldova, how the hell did they get through??? :blink
I was a bit peeved earlier on, I accidentally voted for that rubbish that was Estonia, damn stupid wrong number :>< I must be more careful for the final.
Putin entered the song festival :huh *wink*Originally posted by Ricgard@May 19 2005, 06:55 PM
Well, I never really considered it so, as we only had 2 candidates, Putin, and some Communist guy who stood no chance, but still got 14(?)%
Seriously, at least you got to cast your vote.
The EU is controlled by a commission that is in no way elected.
There is also an elected "parliament" but they are only allowed to vote about things the EU commission doesn't think is important enough for them to handle off on their own.
Did Russia compete in the song festival btw? <- my pathetic attempt to keep my post on topic :happy
Israel has to compete in European competitions 'cos none of the neigbouring Arabs would play with them.
Back to play MTW2...
Israel is like the US- it's a European country thats not physicly in Europe.
But the history between isn't really good history at all. Having history is important, but whether it's good or bad history between them is more important.Originally posted by Cliomhdubh@May 19 2005, 05:31 PM
i think turkey will be allowed in because of its long history with europe...
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There is also the important point that a many Israeli's are european in origin or at least their parents are. If you take that into account, Israel would have more of a right to compete in a european competition than say Turkey where very few come from or whose families come from "Europe".
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The reason for the inlusion of Israel in a variety of European functions, had pragmatic, political, and humanitarian reasons. As athletic competitions go there are mediterrenean games every two years-IIRC- where the criterion of inclusion is the mediterranean coastline ocupancy, nice (mare nostrum) criterion 300 years ago, meaningless now.
You also have to notice how many alternate definitions of the Balkans are used for political reasons; Slovenia is in and out constantly.
As for Euro(trash)vision, I'm exchanging the place of Greece for a used trabant in bad condition and without wheels anyday. *wink*
What's that supposed to mean? :blinkOriginally posted by Garbarsardar@May 20 2005, 01:00 AM
I'm exchanging the place of Greece for a used trabant in bad condition and without wheels anyday. *wink*
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yeah i didnt like them anyway its a bit sad they didnt win as ireland has this pop idol like competion to find the song contestant so they only got into the contest because they have a personallity all the old women ador.Sorry about Ireland not making the final, but the song wasnt that great
ah well weve enough trohies from the contest
i know i was rofl when i seen them get through and not ireland :lolStill much better than Moldova, how the hell did they get through???
if were going into good and bad history then there should be no european unity i mean the history of europe isnt alll that greatBut the history between isn't really good history at all. Having history is important, but whether it's good or bad history between them is more important.
From the great Gales of Ireland
Are the men that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry,
And all their songs are sad.
G. K. Chesterton
1. What do you care?
2. We've been in it for decades, glad you noticed.
3. What do you think would happen if israel competed with arab countries in sport tornaments and other contests, it wouldn't be nice (although we probably would have had a better chance of winning *tongue* )