The resource sub-mod

[axnsan]

Seeing the mod lacks proper trade, i offer to do a temporary sub-mod until the 1.1 version is released.

I can get all the scripting/text done, but i need:

• Ideas for resources and locations ( preferably lore-accurate )
• Beta-testers ( for cash balance, crashes, etc )
• Someone to make models for new resources i might add

[Leesin]

Do the team even plan on adding merchants and more resources in 1.1 ?

I assumed there were going to be no merchants ever, because adding a few basic resources in with some normal looking merchants wouldnt have took long at all compaired to all the other hard work they did, unless they of course just felt they'd leave it until 1.1, just curious is all ? I kind of like it without Merchants, the AI spams too many that invade your land and try take over your merchant every turn lol.

[Lordinquisitor]

No i think they left merchants out, because it felt "wrong".

However i like merchants and i would like to see them in the mod. (Evil merchants can always be renamed "bandits" or something like that..)

[Mithrandir]

The mod does have proper trade and resources, all we did was remove merchants and resource models.

[axnsan]

well, i just don't feel there's enough trade

[Mithrandir]

well, i just don't feel there's enough trade

Meh, I never liked merchants. Good riddance, I say.

[lord0thief]

U.R.AWESOME.

[Archaon]

I hate merchants also. dude i was about to post this at the other thread but it was closed while i tested 20 turns to see how it panned out - i like what i see - subtle increase in trade for key areas.

this is the code i added to the descr_strat.txt;

resource    wine,        30,    246 ;Forlindon
resource    wine,        184,    153 ;Kings Land
resource    wine,        240,    126 ;Anorien
resource    wine,        283,    47 ;Harad
resource    grain,        75,    239 ;Emyn Beraid
resource    grain,        155,    171 ;Gap of Rohan
resource    grain,        222,    169 ;East Emnet
resource    grain,        144,    109 ;Anfalas
resource    grain,        248,    79 ;Amon Eithel
resource    grain,        251,    164 ;Dagorlad
resource    grain,        294,    215 ;Rhovanion
resource    grain,        211,    289 ;Anduin Vale
resource    grain,        359,    190 ;Mistrand
resource    grain,        280,    56 ;Amrun
resource    grain,        255,    55 ;Harondor
resource    timber,        183,    251 ;Trollshaws
resource    fish,        61,    251 ;Gulf of Lune
resource    fish,        101,    185 ;Enedwaith
resource    fish,        90,    317 ;Hills of Evendim
resource    fish,        117,    96 ;Andrast
resource    fish,        139,    105 ;Anfalas
resource    fish,        198,    103 ;Dor-er-Ernil
resource    fish,        169,    8 ;South Umbar
resource    fish,        334,    5 ;Haradwaith
resource    fish,        359,    57 ;Lower Rhun
resource    fish,        342,    222 ;Dorwinion
resource    fish,        243,    157 ;East Emnet
resource    fish,        254,    116 ;Ithilien
resource    tobacco,    115,    232 ;Cardolan
resource    tobacco,    118,    255 ;Bree-land
resource    tobacco,    179,    254 ;Trollshaws
resource    tobacco,    207,    211 ;Lothlorien
resource    tobacco,    292,    262 ;Dale
resource    timber,        105,    243 ;Bree-land
resource    timber,        176,    249 ;Trollshaws
resource    timber,        180,    189 ;Fangorn
resource    timber,        196,    153 ;Eastfold
resource    timber,        150,    159 ;Westmarch
resource    timber,        40,    272 ;Forlindon
resource    timber,        58,    294 ;Hills of Evendim
resource    timber,        261,    266 ;Woodland Realm
resource    timber,        250,    243 ;West Mirkwood
resource    timber,        285,    237 ;East Mirkwood
resource    timber,        306,    263 ;Dale
resource    timber,        262,    192 ;Wilderland
resource    timber,        179,    127 ;Lamedon
resource    timber,        113,    102 ;Andrast
resource    timber,        273,    212 ;Rhun
resource    timber,        362,    239 ;North Rhun
resource    slaves,        274,    147  ;Udun
resource    slaves,        292,    136  ;Gorgoroth
resource    slaves,        299,    120  ;Gorgoroth
resource    slaves,        286,    42  ;Harad
resource    slaves,        267,    73  ;Harondor
resource    slaves,        384,    218  ;Rhun

It basically uses the original resources in more abundance so that it can continue being used throughout the TATW releases even when they start to implement new models on the map using the un-used resources.

also the descr_strat is attached for those who do not know how to use the code.
just download the file and copy it to;
"SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign" directory

remember to back up your files. and delete the map.rwm file in "SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\base"

[christof139]

As long as there is Pipeweed in the Shire everyhting will be just merry and rosey, or Sammy and Rosie.

[Nazgūl Killer]

I work with Arachon, so I'd like to be a beta tester and a resource supplier that are according to the lore.

[Archaon]

yeah BETA tester i will be

[axnsan]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I hate merchants also. dude i was about to post this at the other thread but it was closed while i tested 20 turns to see how it panned out - i like what i see - subtle increase in trade for key areas.

this is the code i added to the descr_strat.txt;

resource    wine,        30,    246 ;Forlindon
resource    wine,        184,    153 ;Kings Land
resource    wine,        240,    126 ;Anorien
resource    wine,        283,    47 ;Harad
resource    grain,        75,    239 ;Emyn Beraid
resource    grain,        155,    171 ;Gap of Rohan
resource    grain,        222,    169 ;East Emnet
resource    grain,        144,    109 ;Anfalas
resource    grain,        248,    79 ;Amon Eithel
resource    grain,        251,    164 ;Dagorlad
resource    grain,        294,    215 ;Rhovanion
resource    grain,        211,    289 ;Anduin Vale
resource    grain,        359,    190 ;Mistrand
resource    grain,        280,    56 ;Amrun
resource    grain,        255,    55 ;Harondor
resource    timber,        183,    251 ;Trollshaws
resource    fish,        61,    251 ;Gulf of Lune
resource    fish,        101,    185 ;Enedwaith
resource    fish,        90,    317 ;Hills of Evendim
resource    fish,        117,    96 ;Andrast
resource    fish,        139,    105 ;Anfalas
resource    fish,        198,    103 ;Dor-er-Ernil
resource    fish,        169,    8 ;South Umbar
resource    fish,        334,    5 ;Haradwaith
resource    fish,        359,    57 ;Lower Rhun
resource    fish,        342,    222 ;Dorwinion
resource    fish,        243,    157 ;East Emnet
resource    fish,        254,    116 ;Ithilien
resource    tobacco,    115,    232 ;Cardolan
resource    tobacco,    118,    255 ;Bree-land
resource    tobacco,    179,    254 ;Trollshaws
resource    tobacco,    207,    211 ;Lothlorien
resource    tobacco,    292,    262 ;Dale
resource    timber,        105,    243 ;Bree-land
resource    timber,        176,    249 ;Trollshaws
resource    timber,        180,    189 ;Fangorn
resource    timber,        196,    153 ;Eastfold
resource    timber,        150,    159 ;Westmarch
resource    timber,        40,    272 ;Forlindon
resource    timber,        58,    294 ;Hills of Evendim
resource    timber,        261,    266 ;Woodland Realm
resource    timber,        250,    243 ;West Mirkwood
resource    timber,        285,    237 ;East Mirkwood
resource    timber,        306,    263 ;Dale
resource    timber,        262,    192 ;Wilderland
resource    timber,        179,    127 ;Lamedon
resource    timber,        113,    102 ;Andrast
resource    timber,        273,    212 ;Rhun
resource    timber,        362,    239 ;North Rhun
resource    slaves,        274,    147  ;Udun
resource    slaves,        292,    136  ;Gorgoroth
resource    slaves,        299,    120  ;Gorgoroth
resource    slaves,        286,    42  ;Harad
resource    slaves,        267,    73  ;Harondor
resource    slaves,        384,    218  ;Rhun

It basically uses the original resources in more abundance so that it can continue being used throughout the TATW releases even when they start to implement new models on the map using the un-used resources.

also the descr_strat is attached for those who do not know how to use the code.
just download the file and copy it to;
"SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign" directory

remember to back up your files. and delete the map.rwm file in "SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\base"

new resources can also be added, i just need someone to do the models for them (not touching the 4 "unused" resources)


edit: anyone got any ideas for resources i should start with ?

[Archaon]

new resources can also be added, i just need someone to do the models for them

Yeah i know but the four slots available to introduce new resources will most definitely be used down the track by the official team making any work we do obsolete.. its not worth it in my book, however go ahead my man use them but be ready to have your mod compatible with the early versions of TATW only.

[Nazgūl Killer]

I have an idea, maybe Horses? Or Jewels? (Rohan and Elves+Dwarves), maybe Armor? Industry? (Men + Isengard)

[christof139]

I don't think that the Slave Resource is in Nurn - it is somewhere in Harad though - and Sauron use the men of Nurn as Slaves as well as Soldiers etc.

[Fishrudder]

Wait, so you added no metal? Such as Mithril, I know it's already in there, and you probably should take some grain resources away, that will cause settlements to grow very, very quickly

And btw, you stole my first sub mod :-s, lol, jk, but, I was planning on doing it now haha

[miniwally]

mithril in moria

[Archaon]

Mithril is already in Moria and the hobbits (and two elven provinces) have pipe weed.
As for cities growing faster - this is not very true as it is the 'base farming level' in the descr_regions that makes this happen.

Horses are in there and i did not add more as this would lower the value of them as a whole, they are strategically placed already and addig more would be bad.. Same as metals, they are valuable and adding surplus will devalue them.

@Nazgul - you want new resources added in and axnsan (and I) agree it is not a good idea to use the four empty slots.. so what we have to decide to do is transform one of the resources already in use (i.e. Iron, fish, wine, grain). That applies to your gems idea.

[axnsan]

@Archaon : is there a hard-coded resource limit i don't know of?

you can add a NEW entry for a NEW resource in descr_sm_resources
e.g. :
type candy
trade_value 100
item data/models_strat/resource_candy.CAS
icon data/ui/resources/resource_candy.tga

you only need a new model for it, which is what i'm working on (finding a program)

PS: no, i won't add candies

[Archaon]

As far as i knew this wasn't possible - and my assumption is backed up by the fact TA:TW team overwritten the resources for this same reason.

I guess the only way to know is search for a modder who has worked on adding resources successfully into kingdoms or trial and error it ourselves.