Belgium:great beer,taste choclate, inventor of chips or other name french fries,and to,one of the land's that made as it know is The EU,Brussel is great captial of Europe.long live Antwerp and Belgium
Belgium:great beer,taste choclate, inventor of chips or other name french fries,and to,one of the land's that made as it know is The EU,Brussel is great captial of Europe.long live Antwerp and Belgium
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I sometimes miss this place you know. This is where my journey began.
now if only the belgians could be as united as the europe they helped make...
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He's Belgian too, you're in good company.
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Strange though, he's from Bruges but doesn't speak freaky deaky Dutch.
Then again in Bruges they speak dialect quite unlike standard Dutch, but I doubt the writers knew that. Just like the writers didn't knew that a Dutch character, Gold Member, wouldn't go around saying Scheisse.
Some day I'll actually write all the reviews I keep promising...
Please remain on topic.
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عیسی پسر مریم گفت :' جهان است پل ، عبور بیش از آن است ، اما هیچ ساخت خانه بر آن او امیدوار است که برای یک روز ، ممکن است برای ابدیت امیدواریم ، اما ماندگار جهان اما ساعت آن را صرف در دعا و نماز برای استراحت است نهان
All of the Balkans is not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.
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Maraud wrapped it up quite nicely!
Make that the history of the Netherlands. And Flanders is just a very tiny part of the dutch speaking Belgians, that is historically speaking. There is an awefull pars pro toto in these lands. So to get it straight. Flanders nowadays refers to the whole of the dutch speaking part of Belgian though it used to be only a county, there were other important lordships like the duchy of Brabant, etc. So no, Flanders is pretty small in the medieval period and does by no means coïncide with what is now Belgium, hardly 1/10th.
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Ah man I'm sorry dude.
At least you're not Dutch lol...oh wait are you Flemish?
To an extend you may be right. But the name 'Belgium' did not simply drop out of thin air. When you live in this country the fact is that - despite being from the flemish or walloon part - you wield the Belgian nationality, it's on your passport so it is very much real. And yes in a way this is very artificial, but being that all nationalities are artificial, this is not abberant in any way. Als keep in mind that historically the Netherlands were always speaking about 3 different languages (to generalise, since we should be talking about dialects and this would get an even longer list) and always coëxisted, there is nothing weird about flemish and walloons living together as Belgians in one nation, Belgium.
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Therefore One hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the most skillful. Seizing the enemy without fighting is the most skillful. War is of vital importance to the state and should not be engaged carelessly... - Sun Tzu
Orochimaru & Aizen you must Die!! Bankai Dattebayo!!
They can put european citizen on my passport but that doesn't make me european, I am still dutch. The begians were an ancient celtic tribe who lived in the area of present day Belgium.
btw: I have spent a long time in Brussels, I can tell walloons and flemish apart, they look differently (and also dress differently too) but the faces are very distinct.
What part of the historical context of the Netherlands always being an area with various languages where ppl coëxisted and were served in their own language (no matter which province), did you not understand? The Belgian context is not abberant. Historically we were part of a larger area stretching to the north of the Netherlands and the north of France, but that is a different matter. The 1830 seperation may be a sad fact, doesn't make it any less over and done with.
And you are what you're passport says, even if you think yourself as a Martian, you'll still pay taxes to the Belgian government if that's what's on your passport.
Btw, I am Belgian. But whatever. Telling them apart? Yeah, that just took away a lot of your credibility but whatever.
Last edited by gaius valerius; April 28, 2009 at 12:55 PM.
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Therefore One hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the most skillful. Seizing the enemy without fighting is the most skillful. War is of vital importance to the state and should not be engaged carelessly... - Sun Tzu
Orochimaru & Aizen you must Die!! Bankai Dattebayo!!
This whole nation idea is redicilous. The problem is, the nation is just a construction that, especially in the last 2 centuries has caused more than wrongly cooked chicken. If we follow the nation idea, I'm part Belgium, part Frisian, part Zeelandic, part German, part blablabla. It's the biggest nonsense. It only gives an indication my family lived in Belgium, they adapted a value-set that fitted the time/place frame and that's it. There are no ancient (be it Batavian, Belgic, all nations have a sorta myth like that - the proto brave ancenstor) tribes that for some reason moved all over in the time of the romans, to settle themselves for 21 centuries, with zero movability at all. Ofcourse there have been tribes in that time, but to say that 'The Belgium people' of 'The Dutch people' were that specific tribe that lived there, is way too far fetched, people have been remarkedly mobile (even in medieval times).
All I can say is, do not take the obscure lies following out of nationalist sentiments of the 18th and 19th century too serious. I see myself as European and an European citizen and if I lived in the USA I would see myself as American of European descent. It's nice to know where your family came from, but do not take the Belgium (or Dutch/French/German thingie too serious, it's all been in flux till around the 18th century, when someone came up with devilish idea of the 'nation' (and especially the German idea of it, was it Herder? I like Revan's idea better).
Hah, this is just stupid. There is zero difference between Walloons and Flemish on a genetic level except for the normal geographic variance.
And dress different? What the? Someone missed the memo about Belgians not having national garb, nor the Walloons/Flemings.
Some day I'll actually write all the reviews I keep promising...
I thank that Belgium and the Netherlands would both be better off today if we stayed together. Instead those French speakers had to ruin it .
There's still a big posibillity of Flanders one day joining with the Netherlands, especially seeing how many things we have in common.
I hope for one Netherlands in the future, having all the Historical Netherlands into one country.
Knowledge is a deadly friend, if no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see, is in the hands of fools - King Crimson's Epitaph.
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Well, if we stayed one country its possible that plan never came to be . As the Germans would know that if united we would kick some German ass .
Knowledge is a deadly friend, if no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see, is in the hands of fools - King Crimson's Epitaph.
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Therefore One hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the most skillful. Seizing the enemy without fighting is the most skillful. War is of vital importance to the state and should not be engaged carelessly... - Sun Tzu
Orochimaru & Aizen you must Die!! Bankai Dattebayo!!
Yes, and they didn't like that the northern people treatened there wealth and elite status. Thus making the small differences bigger then they were and starting the rebellion.
Yeah.... No.
Read up on your history, your knowledge of our split is severely lacking.
Some day I'll actually write all the reviews I keep promising...