Headbanging gutwrenching metal!!

[Psychonaut]

What the are you talking about?

EDIT: Didn't see Peasentsuck's post, if you were talking to him.

[Dave Strider]

Its called singing, some thing that most vocalists in traditional metal do...

Certainly not what Cannibal Corpse does...I'm not even sure what the that is.
On the other hand, Disturbed sings, and they vlaim to play Classic metal.

Hahahaha Thanks, I needed a laugh.

It's funny because it's true!

I'm not the biggest Alice in Chains fan, but from what I have heard they sound NOTHING like Godsmack.

They cite AiC as one of their chief musical influences, hell they even got their name from an AiC song

[Dave Strider]

What the are you talking about?

EDIT: Didn't see Peasentsuck's post, if you were talking to him.

I was.

[Tom Crooze]

So you're saying that the bad Nu Metal is "Good", and the good Nu Metal is "Bad"?

It's all to me, but the stuff oversaturated in rap just has the feeling of being epically bad!

[Psychonaut]

Certainly not what Cannibal Corpse does...I'm not even sure what the that is.
On the other hand, Disturbed sings, and they vlaim to play Classic metal.

Cannibal Corpse isn't traditional metal, they are death metal.

It's funny because it's true!

You're 13 and listen to Godsmack and Disturbed... add Slipknot to the mix and you have a textbook definition of "mallcore kiddy."

They cite AiC as one of their chief musical influences, hell they even got their name from an AiC song

I could cite BB King as influence in my (nonexistant) black metal band. Does that make me sound like him? No. It only means I was influenced.

[Tom Crooze]

Who would win in a Subculture War: Mallcore Kids or Scene Kids?

[Dave Strider]

Cannibal Corpse isn't traditional metal, they are death metal.

You sure praise them like traditional metal.

You're 13 and listen to Godsmack and Disturbed... add Slipknot to the mix and you have a textbook definition of "mallcore kiddy."

You're...however old you are and you alienate yourself from understanding by most people by listening to damn near universally-criticised music.

I could cite BB King as influence in my (nonexistant) black metal band. Does that make me sound like him? No. It only means I was influenced.

For the love of god, tell me you hear a similiarity; the way they sing, the guitar style, anything. It will restore my confidence in you.

[Psychonaut]

I don't recall praising CC, if you could quote the post then fair enough.

And I don't "alienate myself," I listen to several genres besides metal (rock, punk, some rap, blues, classical, techno, Irish folk and whatever the hell R.E.M. is)


I'm on my phone so I'll compare them tomorrow. And to hell with your confidence.

[Dave Strider]

I don't recall praising CC, if you could quote the post then fair enough.

You post them quite often and always criticise me for posting Godsmack and Disturbed while you post music with lyrics that nobody except you can(somehow) understand.

And I don't "alienate myself," I listen to several genres besides metal (rock, punk, some rap, blues, classical, techno, Irish folk and whatever the hell R.E.M. is)

Well, that's good then, you still have hope. I just can't seem to get it through your head that Alternative Metal and Nu Metal are forms of metal. It's not as heavy as the stuff you listen to; so is Metallica, or Pantera, or Megadeth, or Motorhead, hell, Disturbed is heavier than most of them(drop C/drop C# tuning, metallica did that ONCE and got mixed reviews)

I'm on my phone so I'll compare them tomorrow. And to hell with your confidence.

That's quite an alienating comment, young man.

[God]

It's not just the heavyness, plenty of good metal isn't that heavy, like atmospheric black metal

[Psychonaut]

You post them quite often and always criticise me for posting Godsmack and Disturbed while you post music with lyrics that nobody except you can(somehow) understand.

I look up the lyrics if I feel the urge to know what they are "singing" about. Which is very rare, as lyrics don't matter as much to me as how the vocals sound. I don't remember the last time I posted CC anyway.

Well, that's good then, you still have hope. I just can't seem to get it through your head that Alternative Metal and Nu Metal are forms of metal. It's not as heavy as the stuff you listen to; so is Metallica, or Pantera, or Megadeth, or Motorhead, hell, Disturbed is heavier than most of them(drop C/drop C# tuning, metallica did that ONCE and got mixed reviews)

Dropped tunings alone =/= heaviness. Metallica's first three albums are much heavier than Disturbed, and everything they put out after those albums sucks anyway.

[Dave Strider]

I look up the lyrics if I feel the urge to know what they are "singing" about. Which is very rare, as lyrics don't matter as much to me as how the vocals sound. I don't remember the last time I posted CC anyway.

I don't even need to look up the lyrics to know what they're singing about. Most of the song names do that for me.

"Fishhook Sodomy"
"Addicted to Vaginal skin"
"I Cum Blood"
etc.

Sex and cannibalism. Nice.

Dropped tunings =/= heaviness. Metallica's first three albums are much heavier than Disturbed, and everything they put out after those albums sucks anyway.

You don't think ...And Justice For All is good?

And if dropped tunings doesn't affect heaviness, what does?

[Psychonaut]

Like I said, I generally don't care about lyrics.

And I edited my post. I meant to say drop tunings alone don't create heaviness. Heaviness (at least imo) comes from the actual guitar riff/bass lines, drum beats, lyrical themes (to an extent ) atmosphere and attitude of the music. Tuning does affect it, as an electric guitar is much heavier sounding than a mandolin, but it is not the only aspect of heaviness.

And no, I did not enjoy And Justice... at least I don't anymore.

[Dave Strider]

Like I said, I generally don't care about lyrics.

Okay, so we've got that covered, good.

And I edited my post. I meant to say drop tunings alone don't create heaviness. Heaviness (at least imo) comes from the actual guitar riff/bass lines, drum beats, lyrical themes (to an extent ) atmosphere and attitude of the music. Tuning does affect it, as an electric guitar is much heavier sounding than a mandolin, but it is not the only aspect of heaviness.

Apologies if I sound like I'm just ninning at this point.
Guitar riff? Disturbed and Godsmack both have riffs that can be very long(one of Disturbed's longest was 18 notes in a riff, and one of Godsmack's was 20, both close to the same amount that Metallica can put in, no?).
Alot of their Bass lines often match their guitar riffs in terms of rhythm and note persistence(Disturbed's Inside the Fire and pretty much any one of Godsmack's songs except for Voodoo do that).
Shannon Larkin(Godsmack drummer) has been said to worship at twin altars of Pearl Heart(I believe his name was) and John Bonham, whereas Mike Wengren(Disturbed drummer)...well, look at this:





And what certain lyrical themes qualify as Heavy? Disturbed has done stuff with wild animals, insanity, loneliness, etc. Alot of borderline emo stuff.

And no, I did not enjoy And Justice... at least I don't anymore.

Why, because I mentioned it?

[Psychonaut]

I'm going to bed but I will be able to reply better in the morning.

[Dave Strider]

Okay, fair enough. Good night, mate.

[The Vitiated Mind]

LB compared to Disturbed is ing Slayer compared to Britney Spears .
I can't believe that only the iest of bands appeal to you ( and of course he has to read in wikipedia what genre are they )
.
OH and Godsmack could be ing Mozarts but they are not metal .

[René Artois]

Lolno. Unless you're also calling Metallica, the only other Metal band to accomplish that, pop metal too.

Only their(read: Disturbed's) first two albums were Nu Metal. READ. WITH YOUR EYES. DO IT. NOW.





Having teenage girls and pedo men swarming you =/= popularity.

Or at the very least, it shouldn't.

Popularity is the number of people liking something. If something is liked by alot of people it is popular.

But now you bring it up, I suppose Metallica is pop-metal. It's popular, and it's thrash so it's metal.

I contribute, you guys just don't consider it metal because all the uber-heavy stuff(Groove, Black, Death, etc.) has raised your standards unreasonably high.

It's like this:
1966-1994, pretty much a of stuff is Metal.
1994-2011, it's only metal if you can't understand it.

Yes that's exactly why we all said hendrix was metal.

[frontier-auxilia]

Yay, for now Vlad is still less Metal than me! So I can still watch MLP and be a Metalhead!

Wat chu talkin about? Fluttershy is metal as ####



Equestria is where Posh ponies kick manticore in the face.

[....... #imagine pretty much every thread viewers reading my post with murderous rage#.

Heres something for the other folks

[Dave Strider]

LB compared to Disturbed is ing Slayer compared to Britney Spears.

Except Disturbed is heavier than LB.

I can't believe that only the iest of bands appeal to you ( and of course he has to read in wikipedia what genre are they )

You're talking?

OH and Godsmack could be ing Mozarts but they are not metal.

And all of the bands below could be the heaviest bands in existence and not be good.

And you're calling my musical interests horrible?

Popularity is the number of people liking something. If something is liked by alot of people it is popular. But now you bring it up, I suppose Metallica is pop-metal. It's popular, and it's thrash so it's metal.

Holy crap, I've gone all this time without knowing that "pop" was short for "popular"

Yes that's exactly why we all said hendrix was metal.

I was talking about the years the musicians were active. Unless you weren't being sarcastic right there...