Official 'Third Age 1.0 - 3.2 Question & Answer' Thread

[DrDragun]

Most likely they moved the army away or it is in some nearby trees (although I'm not sure there is hiding terrain near Umbar).

Occasionally (particularly for Harad) general and armies can disappear or turn rebel because their Faction Leader has low Authority.

[saluksic]

I had a question a few pages back about the ring. I wanted to pop on here and add that after playing through a previous save a few times, I've managed to capture the ring and bring it to Rivendell. Next stop, Mount Doom!

(I'm so excited. How badly am I going to get owned trying to breach the Black Gate?)

[Matosh]

If im using assassins and spies will i get bad rep ?

[Wizad]

I had a question a few pages back about the ring. I wanted to pop on here and add that after playing through a previous save a few times, I've managed to capture the ring and bring it to Rivendell. Next stop, Mount Doom!

(I'm so excited. How badly am I going to get owned trying to breach the Black Gate?)

Let's just say that one does not simply walk into Mordor.

You will need at least 2 full armies if you want to destroy the ring. It will be a really tough battle. Also try not to click on your ring bearer too much. Every time you click on the general with the ring, there is a chance that Gollum will steal it.

[Wizad]

If im using assassins and spies will i get bad rep ?

Every time an assassin attempts a mission, there is a chance that your faction leader will gain a point of fear. The higher the fear of your faction leader, the lower your reputation amongst the other factions of Middle Earth. So yes, indirectly using assassins does give you a bad reputation.

[Matosh]

And spies (not only for moving them also for infiltrating armys and settlements) ?

[saluksic]

Thanks Wizard. I (dwarves) have a full stack of the meanest shorties my faction can recruit, plus another full stack of regular troops. I will probably have time to recruit a third stack before we attack. I have no enemies and very good relations with everyone but Rhun, so I think I can get away with throwing most of my force against the shadow lands.

To get around Gollum. I've set the ring-bearer with the faction heir so when I select him, it's really the prince Thorin being selected. I think this will keep it secret and keep it safe, but i've also included two spies as escort just for good measure.

I guess I'll finally get to meet these Olog Hai that everyone has told me so much about.

[Macilrille]

Olog Hai are not bad, play as Gondor and get used to them ;-)

[Incredible Bulk]

Ok hard question which characters have special abilities? What is the ability? And what does the ability do?
3 part question (s)he that answer(s) will get rep

[Ngugi]

Not when you know where to look, just tideous it proved haha. These generals have it (see descr_strat.txt)

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character Denethor, named character, male, leader, age 65, x 239, y 128, portrait Denethor, hero_ability IRON_FIST
character Faramir, named character, male, age 18, x 254, y 127, portrait Faramir, battle_model faramir, hero_ability CAPTAIN
character Boromir, named character, male, heir, age 23, x 240, y 127, portrait Boromir, battle_model boromir, hero_ability SHIELD

character Thengel, named character, male, leader, age 50, x 186, y 154, portrait Thengel, hero_ability SHIELD
character Theoden, named character, male, heir, age 33, x 199, y 149, portrait Theoden, battle_model theoden, hero_ability CHARGE
character Erkenbrand, named character, male, age 36, x 167, y 157, portrait Erkenbrand, hero_ability IRON_FIST

character Bard, named character, male, leader, age 45, x 291, y 265, portrait Bard, hero_ability CAPTAIN
character Bain, named character, male, heir, age 19, x 288, y 258, portrait Bain, hero_ability IRON_FIST

character Dain, named character, male, leader, age 54, x 292, y 269, portrait Dain, hero_ability DWARVES
character Balin, named character, male, age 53, x 295, y 271, portrait Balin, hero_ability IRON_FIST
character Gimli, named character, male, age 24, x 61, y 315, portrait Gimli, battle_model gimli, hero_ability SHIELD

character Aragorn, named character, male, leader, age 38, x 119, y 248, battle_model aragorn, portrait Aragon, hero_ability STRIDER
character Gandalf, named character, male, age 22, x 117, y 248, battle_model gandalf, portrait Gandalf, hero_ability GANDALF

character Elrond, named character, male, leader, age 50, x 185, y 249, portrait Elrond, hero_ability ELROND
character Glorfindel, named character, male, age 46, x 31, y 248, portrait Glorfindel, battle_model glorfindel, hero_ability Light_of_the_Faith

character Celeborn, named character, male, age 32, x 205, y 213, portrait Celeborn, hero_ability SHIELD
character Haldir, named character, male, age 37, x 217, y 210, portrait Haldir, battle_model haldir, hero_ability SILVAN

character Nazgula, named character, male, leader, age 41, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul1, battle_model witchking, hero_ability Terror_of_the_Witch_King
character Nazgulc, named character, male, heir, age 25, x 273, y 125, portrait nazgul4, battle_model mounted_nazgul, hero_ability Terror_of_the_Nazgul
(dunno if all Nazgûl may have this)
character Grishnakh, named character, male, age 23, x 273, y 149, portrait Grishnak, battle_model grish, hero_ability WHIPING
character Laglug, named character, male, age 22, x 273, y 141, hero_ability ORC_DRAUGHT
character Muzlun, named character, male, age 19, x 309, y 136, hero_ability ORC_DRAUGHT

character Saruman, named character, male, leader, age 56, x 164, y 189, battle_model saruman, portrait saruman, hero_ability THE_VOICE
character Ugluk, named character, male, heir, age 40, x 164, y 187, portrait Ugluk, battle_model ugluk, hero_ability URUK_HAI

OotMM
character Uglag, named character, male, leader, age 45, x 183, y 215, hero_ability LEGION
character Burz, named character, male, heir, age 28, x 207, y 253, hero_ability WHIPING
character Ugrad, named character, male, age 22, x 237, y 298, hero_ability ORC_DRAUGHT

OoG
character Gorduf, named character, male, leader, age 39, x 151, y 307, hero_ability LEGION
character Lagbug, named character, male, heir, age 20, x 162, y 292, hero_ability WHIPING
character Lunul, named character, male, age 18, x 181, y 293, hero_ability ORC_DRAUGHT

Harad
character Khuzaymah, named character, male, leader, age 46, x 284, y 41, portrait Haradking, hero_ability WRATH
character Utbah, named character, male, age 26, x 349, y 47, portrait Beastmasterfar, hero_ability VENOM
character Haarith, named character, male, age 37, x 295, y 17, portrait Haradchief, hero_ability VENOM

Rhûn
character Borthand, named character, male, leader, age 45, x 356, y 191, portrait Rhunking, hero_ability WRATH
character Kustig, named character, male, age 29, x 368, y 177, portrait Balchoth, hero_ability VENOM

Ents I think
The Balrog I think

And in descr_hero_abilities.xml you can read what they do.
I made a sum up here of those I know is in. Note effect ends with duration beside fatique sometimes

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IRON_FIST
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>2.5</kill_chance_modifier>
Lower fatique
Army get's tired after use

CAPTAIN
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>2</kill_chance_modifier>
+ lock morale at high
Army get's tired after use

SHIELD
<duration>60</duration>
<activations>2</activations
lower enemy soldier_combat_effectiveness to 0.8
Own morale locked at firm
Lower fatique
Army get's tired after use

ROHAN
<duration>60</duration>
<activations>1</activations
Locks morale at Impetuous
Rally own units

CHARGE
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>2</kill_chance_modifier>
Army get's tired after use

DWARVES
<duration>60</duration>
<activations>1</activations
Locks morale at Impetuous
Rally own units
Lower fatique
Army get's tired after use

STRIDER
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
Rally own units and improve morale

GANDALF
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
Locks morale at high
Rally own units
Enemy infighting*

WHITE_GANDALF
same as Gandalf

ELROND
<duration>60</duration>
<activations>1</activations
Locks morale to high
Rally own units
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>2</kill_chance_modifier>
Lower fatique
Army get's tired after use

Light_of_the_Faith
duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
Allied morale improved
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>1.5</kill_chance_modifier>

SILVAN
<duration>15</duration>
<activations>1</activations>
Big loss to fatique
Enemy army get very fatiqued
Enemy soldier_combat_effectiveness to 0.8
Enemy infighting

Terror_of_the_Nazgul
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
Enemy infighting
Enemy morale drops

Terror_of_the_Witch_King
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
Enemy infighting
Enemy morale drops
Rally own units

WHIPING
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>3</activations>
Rally own units
Lock morale firm
Army get's tired after use

THE_VOICE
<duration>60</duration>
<activations>1</activations>
Enemy increased fatigue
Enemy infighting

URUK_HAI
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>3</activations>
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>2</kill_chance_modifier>
Own army decreased fatique
Army get's tired after use

LEGION
<duration>60</duration>
<activations>1</activations>
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>1.5</kill_chance_modifier>
Own morale increased
Army get's tired after use

ORC_DRAUGHT
<duration>60</duration>
<activations>3</activations>
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>1.2</kill_chance_modifier>
Infighting own army
Locks morale to Impetuous

WRATH
<duration>45</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
Morale increased
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>1.5</kill_chance_modifier>
Fatiqued decreased
Army get's tired after use

VENOM
<duration>60</duration>
<activations>3</activations>
<name>soldier_combat_effectiveness</name>
<target>own_army</target>
<kill_chance_modifier>1.5</kill_chance_modifier>
Infighting own army

SAURON
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>2</activations>
Enemy infighting
Army morale drops
Own morale increase
Rally own units

BALROG
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>1</activations>
Rally units
Morale locked to firm

ENTS
<duration>30</duration>
<activations>1</activations>
Rally units
Morale locked to firm

* Infighting = no damage ,they just go inactive, "arguing" among themselves..BUT..if you attack them they "wake up"..)

Noobas tutorial/resorce on the matter http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...hlight=ability

Rep not required

[Incredible Bulk]

Rep not required but earned- thanks

[k/t]

Using spies DOES NOT lower your faction's reputation.

The dread of your faction leader DOES NOT lower your faction's reputation.

http://www.twcenter.net/wiki/Reputation-M2TW

[RuleBritannia]

Something very weird happened on the same turn I recovered the Ring. I moved my army out on its way to Mordor, but then I clicked it again, and got a message that the Ring was stolen... huh? How exactly did I lose it in the same turn I got it? And is there any way to prevent losing it?

[Ngugi]

@ Charger'
Glad to help

Something very weird happened on the same turn I recovered the Ring. I moved my army out on its way to Mordor, but then I clicked it again, and got a message that the Ring was stolen... huh? How exactly did I lose it in the same turn I got it? And is there any way to prevent losing it?

Each time you select a general who have the Ring there's a scripted risk, up to 5% IIRC, that Gollum (or someone else depending on where on the map you are) snatch the Ring and you'll have to catch it again

[MrDickens]

I am having some trouble forming Arnor and I cant figure out why.

I currently have all required regions (Shire is sovereign if that makes a difference), Gondor is an ally, Aragorn is still alive, Annuminas just became a large city and I built the Stone walls, but it wont let me make a House of Kings. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[Matosh]

I think Annuminas must be your capital and you have to upgrade it to huge city (26000 population) so you can build Hall of Kings, in order to get Hall of Kings available for construct you need to build Large Stone walls.

[knicolas2]

I think Annuminas must be your capital and you have to upgrade it to huge city (26000 population) so you can build Hall of Kings, in order to get Hall of Kings available for construct you need to build Large Stone walls.

no not capital i think but as said the 26000 population and a really huge amount of gold.

[Grislok]

400 turns is the campaign length right? I hit 401 and never received any mention of my failure to win. Is this correct?

[rhysjtranter]

i have recently installed MOS 1.41 and wish to go back to TATW 3.2 , but am stuck on wether you have to completly reinstall everything again or not ? PLZZ HELP !!!

[Infidel144]

After I have destroyed the One Ring, should it and Gollum still remain in the generals retinue?