how do I add new regions?

**Babur** · April 07, 2009, 09:16 AM

I want to remove a few regions and add new ones

along the lines of the regions shown in this map:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

any help or advice would be appreciated

**Babur** · April 07, 2009, 10:04 AM

note the similarity between Empire's European regions and that of M2TW:

except as I learned when I used to mod M2TW the white and black dots above represent ports and settlements respectively however this system has been removed in Empire.

**S.P.Q.R. Praetorian** · April 07, 2009, 07:28 PM

Bump. Perhaps someone can figure this out?

**Dud doodoo** · April 07, 2009, 07:36 PM

CA said in an interview that they redesigned the system and it is now much more powerful. They mentioned having to write their own editor, which will of course be released to the community.

So I suppose we will wait? I'm sure it's possible to do it now, just difficult.

**Bella** · April 07, 2009, 11:24 PM

I wouldn't hold my breath on a strat map editor being released to the community. We've been begging for one since Rome and CA never even pulled a hair over it.

**GeorgiaPeanuts** · April 07, 2009, 11:58 PM

These pictures are just used for the hud. The vertex data and etc. of the whole world is define in regions.esf

**the_mango55** · April 08, 2009, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Bella

I wouldn't hold my breath on a strat map editor being released to the community. We've been begging for one since Rome and CA never even pulled a hair over it.

Well it used to be fairly easy to do, it wasn't really necessary. They probably didn't have an in-house editor anyway.

But now it's apparently quite complex, and they built their own editor for the map. They might as well release it, they probably just need to cut out some of the more powerful features (stuff that will break the game most easily) and streamline/simplify it before releasing it.

I want to use it to split some islands from their regions in the Mediterranean, like Siciliy, Crete, Cyprus and the Balearics.

**Bella** · April 08, 2009, 11:09 AM

I'm just saying, knowing CA's history on providing modding tools, don't be surprised if you're still toying directly with regions.esf in 2 years.

**Tantalaul** · April 10, 2009, 09:53 AM

So conclusion is that: In this moment nobody knows how to add new regions?

**GeorgiaPeanuts** · April 10, 2009, 12:18 PM

Well people do, but it is a case of time and effort. It will take a big effort to make a new region because you will have to use some ol' fashioned linear algebra. (Currently the ESF editor does not display binary data so you can't in the esf editor) In each area/face/ sections of vertex data is a binary data container holds an array of vertices to signify that area of the region. You would have to add new region to a theater create a new block for the vertex_data and probably a few more things, but that is the basics.

I think it would be a fun project to write a very basic editor for regions.esf

**Toshiba** · April 10, 2009, 03:46 PM

I happen to know a nice amount of Linear Algebra, I learned it for an extra curriculum Project.

**King Yngvar** · April 12, 2009, 05:09 PM

Is there any tutorials out there on how to make new regions? I did not find it in the list of tutorials.

**Ketzerfreund** · April 12, 2009, 11:03 PM

That's because there is none, yet.

**Babur** · April 13, 2009, 01:00 PM

how long do you think it will be until there are some?

**GeorgiaPeanuts** · April 13, 2009, 01:20 PM

I don't think there will ever be one. Either a tool will be made by someone to do it or CA will release a tool. It really is not feasible to add a new region by hand.