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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7984436.stm

    A sad story of how due to racism of the extreme the 65% of Frances army was not allowed to march into Paris in order to keep it ''whites only''. Not much to say, but for shame to all involved. The Americans for insisting on it via their own views, the French for complying like spineless and traitorous fools, and the British for sitting idly by dishonouring the Indian Army.

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    Yeah, thats truly shameful. The Africans and Algerians died by the masses at Monte Casino, and they where a vital element at reconquering France. These people deserved even more honor considering they fought for "their" country, the country they never saw before, but where called upon fighting for it.

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    "Many of them were simply shot where they stood soon after surrendering to German troops who often regarded them as sub-human savages."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke_of_Bavaria View Post
    "Many of them were simply shot where they stood soon after surrendering to German troops who often regarded them as sub-human savages."
    Mein Gott!
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    You're denying German troops shot black soldiers?
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    Moved to the VV.

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    Shame. It just goes to show how backward people's morals were back then and how far we've come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maraud View Post
    You're denying German troops shot black soldiers?
    I'm sure they did.. Remember most of the German soldiers were brainwashed, even if they werne't die hard party fanatics / SS troops, the ideals of a super race had origin sine Germany / Europe long before Hitler.

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    This would probably be better served within the VV. As abhorrent as this is within the context of modern eyes it seems rather the norm for the time.

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    It is despicable but not surprising that it happened. The Allies were hardly supporters of racial equality.
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    It is at these times that I would like to remind people that the so-called ''righteous Allies'' were no better than the ones they opposed. It was merely different political interests causing them to clash. All of this bullcrap about the Allies fighting for a noble cause and such just makes my gut facepalm when I read this stuff.

    I am actually half Swedish and half Gambian, don't know and don't think any ancestor has served in the British army. One of them was due to arrive in Western Europe and fight at some point, but the operation to bring in more troops was apparently delayed and never gone through with. Despite colonialism being horrible at best, I am quite proud of Gambia's status as a former British colony rather than a French one, which I regard as a nation that failed to keep up with the British but tried desperately. It is the small dirt marks such as this which reinforce that opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem1 View Post
    It is at these times that I would like to remind people that the so-called ''righteous Allies'' were no better than the ones they opposed.
    I would have to disagree here simply because as bad as leaving the very solders who fought for France's freedom out of of a victory procession is it doesn't come off quite as bad compared to throwing Jews en masse into gas chambers and furnaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDMan477 View Post
    I would have to disagree here simply because as bad as leaving the very solders who fought for France's freedom out of of a victory procession is it doesn't come off quite as bad compared to throwing Jews en masse into gas chambers and furnaces.
    It almost does.

    France couldn't even fight for itself and then stripped the ones who fought for it of their honor. That is beyond pathetic. I know the holocaust was pretty damn bad and all, but people die - this was knowingly humiliating, discriminating and disillusioning good honest soldiers who did more work for France than the French themselves did, which I regard as very strange in the first place, utterly pathetic by this event.

    The holocaust may have killed a lot of people, but this humiliated billions of people around the world and reminded them of colonialism, exploitation etc. which is far from gone today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem1 View Post
    It is at these times that I would like to remind people that the so-called ''righteous Allies'' were no better than the ones they opposed. It was merely different political interests causing them to clash. All of this bullcrap about the Allies fighting for a noble cause and such just makes my gut facepalm when I read this stuff.
    Your comparing the Western Allies to the Nazis is what makes my guy facepalm.

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    its pathetic not horrifying like what the Nazis did.
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    Heh, if given the choice of not marching into Paris or dying, I will gladly chose the former. Using this fairly significant find as an opportunity to paint the Allies as somehow equally bad as the nazi's or even the soviets comes off as beyond pathetic imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem1 View Post
    It almost does.

    France couldn't even fight for itself and then stripped the ones who fought for it of their honor. That is beyond pathetic. I know the holocaust was pretty damn bad and all, but people die - this was more of a knowing humiliation and racism, it is different from the holocaust.


    WTF DO YOU THINK THE HOLOCAUST WAS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Fanatic :) View Post

    WTF DO YOU THINK THE HOLOCAUST WAS?
    Accidental racism and humiliation?
    People killing other people. I fail to see why this is of greater significance than the loss of civilian and military life which exceeded the holocaust. I know that I'll get a nazi plate jammed onto my forehead for saying this, but jews are not the only ones that were mass-murdered or have been mass-murdered, I don't understand this special status that the holocaust has. It was bad but so is a lot of other things, you have to take the effects that the events had into account.

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    Your comparing the Western Allies to the Nazis is what makes my guy facepalm.
    I predicted that you would say such a thing.

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    Heh, if given the choice of not marching into Paris or dying, I will gladly chose the former. Using this fairly significant find as an opportunity to paint the Allies as somehow equally bad as the nazi's or even the soviets comes off as beyond pathetic imo.
    I am merely trying to say that the allies don't have as much of a moral high ground as people want to believe, the extreme and true nazis discounted of course. The roots of a tree are much harder to notice than the boughs, really.
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    People killing other people. I fail to see why this is of greater significance than the loss of civilian and military life which exceeded the holocaust. I know that I'll get a nazi plate jammed onto my forehead for saying this, but jews are not the only ones that were mass-murdered or have been mass-murdered, I don't understand this special status that the holocaust has. It was bad but so is a lot of other things, you have to take the effects that the events had into account.
    The Holocaust is a unique case and stands alone in the history of the world. Never before were factories created for the express purpose of wiping out a whole group of people. It was state sponsored killing on an unimaginable scale. 12,000,000 souls were lost from it. It wasn't just the Jews who suffered through the Holocaust. It was all the untermensch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem1 View Post
    I am merely trying to say that the allies don't have as much of a moral high ground as people want to believe, the extreme and true nazis discounted of course. The roots of a tree are much harder to notice than the boughs, really.
    I've always viewed WWII as an attempt to keep Germany from ruling the world. Not as a platform for the Allies to showcase their moral high ground. In other words, dreadfully off topic and irrelevant to the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem1 View Post
    I don't understand this special status that the holocaust has. It was bad but so is a lot of other things, you have to take the effects that the events had into account.
    What makes the Holocaust unique is that it's so far the only case of people killed on an industrial scale. Sure, a lot of them were deliberately starved, shot, beaten to death etc. But it's the death factories that make the Holocaust unlike any other genocide in history.

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