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    Atilla Reloaded's Avatar Caudillo of Ibiza
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    Greetings.

    As some of you were interested in my works, I decided to start a topic, showing them.
    I think this is a good Idea, because if more people will watch my works, I will know more opinions. I allso will be glad to receave historical information here and to negotiate with other skinners ( in limits of personal help, because I already act in one project ).
    Allso, If somebody have pictures and images, I will need them.
    Some words, about my style of work, to avouid misunderstanding. I prefer to use various colors and avoud using faction uniform. Some may say that those armyes are too colorfull, but this is more realistic, as ancient warriors had to get clothes themeselves. Ritch warriors, like guard or veterans receave equipment from king's armory and berst blacksmiths, so they can use uniform, but often only in the limits of a single regiment.
    All skins, beside of celtic ( webbird's are the best. *wink* ) I prefer to desighn myself, and not to fully copy somebody's. Most of my units are dedicated to TS-TW, but I will release here units, wich were cuted or just are out of this mod's time limit.

    As I use experience of other skinnres, I must say thanks to...

    Xanthipos and Rider. For some models, I can't make myself.
    Alcibiades of Athens. For Idea of using models, wich siuts for many cultures ( like his cataphracts. )
    Webbird. For celtic skins.
    Ferres and Warspite. For good textures, some parts of wich I use in my works.
    ImageShack. For free image hosting.


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    Atilla Reloaded's Avatar Caudillo of Ibiza
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    Some for the first time.

    Immitation Legions. Pontic, Seleucid and Ptolemaic version. Possibly for Galatians?



    Example of using webbird's skins - Galatian Chariot riders and Galatian mercenary warband ( east type ).




    Another version of machimoi. Thease native levies were leaden by hellenic officers. ( machimoi banner is in the right top. )

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    I just love your style and how you color your units. I especially love the detail that you put into the units. They look so life like and detailed. I cannot wait until I can see them in the Mods your are working on and in skin packs. if you ever do decide to release them. You are a true artist.

    Keep up the Great work. and Good Luck.


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    love the padded armour on the machimoi. they look warm and cuddly
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    Now That Is What i Call Skinning :cool
    Real nice Job

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    Atilla please post your great Iberian units for PTW and please send the files to Gaius @ dystopialand@hotmail.com
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    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?s...pic=26908&st=24

    Link to Atilla's Genius gracing PTW
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    great, as usual!
    I'm particularily impressed with the Imit Legionaire's helmets ...

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    Originally posted by Atilla Reloaded@May 5 2005, 09:40 PM
    Some for the first time.

    Immitation Legions. Pontic, Seleucid and Ptolemaic version. Possibly for Galatians?



    Example of using webbird's skins - Galatian Chariot riders and Galatian mercenary warband ( east type ).




    Another version of machimoi. Thease native levies were leaden by hellenic officers. ( machimoi banner is in the right top. )

    The barbarians are webbirds models, aren't they?

    About the skins: There are some things I really love and some things that looks too overdone. For example: The armor of the machimoi looks great (kind of bump mapping :w00t ), but having this armor on the helmet looks weird *wink* . Just the body would be fine .
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    Superbe....


    These ar all great skins, must have taken ages.

    The only thing that didn't match imo is the Galatian Chariot riders shields... I think the background became to bright, and it looks a bit ctlr+c/ctlr+v, maybe darken the background, and soften a bit.

    The machimoi on the other hand blew me away :cool .... Keap it up!

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    I was disconnected beacuse my provider had problems.

    Now I am glad to show you my latest works.
    Many complements were sayed for me, but I prefer suggestions.



    King Ptolemay , Alexander's successor and ruler of egypt with his bodyguards - cleruchoi feodal cavalry ( inspired by EB's version )



    Ptolemay's oponent and the king of The Seleucid Empire ,Antiochus, with his Agema Bodyguards

    ( note detail - red spear. )

    They will act with the help of...

    Elephants...

    ( late type crew )

    Ptolemaic Agema and phalanx...


    Bactrian and Satrapal cataphracts...


    Torakites...

    ( Ptolemaic )

    My favorite picture - seleucid torakites. Note the same detail.


    Special previev - Roman Triarii and Tribune.

    Iam totaly disagree CA, who made early romans look uniformed. Even after Marius, no roman legion had single color of clothes ( ofthe showed as red in films. ). Marius was the first in roman army, who had standartisied legion's equipment, and before him, in early times, roman soldier's equipment depended on his wealth. Lower soldiers, like hastati, used, basicualy, italic-styled equipment, andtofficers prefered to use hellenic equipment. So, early roman army was as various in uniforms, as macedonian or even carthaginian.

    I will be glad to hear suggestions.




    P.S. For admins - maybe to move this topic to "Featured Artist Galery" ?
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    Originally posted by Atilla Reloaded@May 11 2005, 08:19 AM
    I was disconnected beacuse my provider had problems.

    Now I am glad to show you my latest works.
    Many complements were sayed for me, but I prefer suggestions.



    King Ptolemay , Alexander's successor and ruler of egypt with his bodyguards - cleruchoi feodal cavalry ( inspired by EB's version )



    Ptolemay's oponent and the king of The Seleucid Empire ,Antiochus, with his Agema Bodyguards


    They will act with the help of...

    Elephants...

    ( late type crew )

    Ptolemaic Agema and phalanx...


    Bactrian and Satrapal cataphracts...


    Torakites...

    ( Ptolemaic )

    My favorite picture - seleucid torakites.


    I will be glad to hear suggestions.




    P.S. For admins - maybe to move this topic to "Featured Artist Galery" ?
    The plume seems to be alittle to purple. Maybe a different color. Reminds me too much of the Parthian color.


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    As I sayed, purple war rather common color for officers and elite troops. Yes, it reminds a bit CA's parthians, but forget about old skins, as I am making parthians allso, NO parthian will wear that color.
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    Yes you are right Officers and Royalty did wear purple. I should have said that maybe a different shade of purple. Maybe toned down or duller? Just seems a little bright.

    Glad to hear that you will not be using purple for the Parthians.

    Keep up the great work.


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    the two kings' plumes seem a little too."solid" to me, not "plumey" enough: kinda like big lumps of plastic . But I guess that must be insanely hard to give skins/models of plumes a natural look ... Also : what are those 2 triangular metallic thingies shooting upwards from the Ptolemaic bodyguards helmets ? could we have a closeup ? They really don't look as if they were made of the same material that the helmets itself:again, they look a bit like plastic ...Plus is it me or have they the same shield than the roman tribune ? And I find the shields of the Seleucid bodyguard oddly plain in comparison to the rest of their finery ...
    Have you considered remodeling the tirarii's helmets ?

    well, that's all that has striked me as sub-par in the pic : well, sub-par relatively to the overall quality of the stuf, which is just bloody awesome . Is that TSTW material, or will some of them get a separate release ? I really want those phalangites and elephants badly :p

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    Thanks for criticism. Those shields for ptol. bodyguards are temporary. I am in search of the best pattern. Those things on the helmet are small bronze "wings". Triarii will use another, a bit more hellenic, helmet, but other textures will be the same. And I am not going to change desighn of The kings. You must agree that they look more natural, than those original static plumes, that surely look like plastic. I think that it is a matter of texturing. Tonning down to dark-red will be better.

    THose units are dedicated to TSTW and they will not be released before the mod, but I am planing to make a special release soon. *wink*

    For kings I used this page - ( see picture in the middle )
    http://www.ancientbattles.com/005_Successors_jjonas.htm
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    Originally posted by Atilla Reloaded@May 11 2005, 08:19 AM
    Special previev - Roman Triarii and Tribune.

    Atilla your Pre-Marian shields are great. :w00t

    I was waiting for that kind of wolf and roar patterned models. You have done great work tovarich! :grin





    I hope those prints help for your Pre-Marian skin developing mate *wink*
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    Originally posted by Atilla Reloaded@May 11 2005, 09:46 AM
    . Those shields for ptol. bodyguards are temporary. I am in search of the best pattern

    hmmm. should have guessed that ...
    Those things on the helmet are small bronze "wings".
    well, they don't look like the rest of the helmet imho ... :/
    Triarii will use another, a bit more hellenic, helmet, but other textures will be the same.
    sounds great, the textures are very nice .
    THose units are dedicated to TSTW and they will not be released before the mod, but I am planing to make a special release soon. *wink*
    as a great admirer of your work, you've more than piqued my interest :lol
    ANd I can't wait for the first release of TS:TW.... :up

    @littleLegionaire : the lower picture is a cover of a Zvezda 1/72 box, right ?

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    Thanks for this Zvezda picture. I am going to base tribune, centurion and principes on it.
    Can somebody tell me, if early romans used classical roman pilums, as on the picture? I thought that pilum is an invention of marius, and early roman used heavy throwing spears. Next, I must say that, in my opinion, equites should be javelin/sword. Romans never were good riders, so spear, wich is only a weapon of expirienced rider, who can use it without being throwned away from his horse, because sadles not existed this time, used spears as throwing weapon for equites. In fact, equites were just mounted infantry ( I will show this on my unit card for equites - horseman standing near his horse.

    About my first release - it will be a reskin of one not very small, but very good mod, released before. No new models, just new skins.
    Try to guess what.
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    Very promising Atilla. I'll wait with patience your good work. *wink*

    About Principes i think first Principe in first print (ROMAN ARMY OF THE PUNIC WARS) better looking than Zvezda's muscle cuirass Principes. I'm crazy about horizontal roar patterned shield of this guy. Tribune and Centurion idea are also perfect. I believe your sharp talent easily handle these jobs. Just keep going mate and don't forget to send us some screenies. :grin
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