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    Better Grass 1.0



    Better Grass is a mod that modifies the battlemap look, with brand new grass and flora types, making the landscape looking like what you see in a tourist postcard! Every climate has it own different flora, that will catch your eye immediately.

    Get a view of these breathtaking landscapes here

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    Looks absolutely stunning! Seems all the grass has flowers in it?
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    yes. Some climates hasnt flowers, as steppe who has 2 different graminae plants..

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    "...making the landscape looking like what you see in a tourist postcard."

    Can you show me only ONE of this postcards please (and don't take pics of horticultural shows, park and similiar places just natural enviroment please for all climates).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Argent Usher View Post
    "...making the landscape looking like what you see in a tourist postcard."

    Can you show me only ONE of this postcards please (and don't take pics of horticultural shows, park and similiar places just natural enviroment please for all climates).


    THX for this and Regards A.U.

    Well, if u have the chance to go in Dolomites Mountains, local souvenirs shops has some nice postcards of mountains, surrounded by flowered edelweiss fields. I dont have the scanner. I cannot scan the postcards i took when i was in there
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    Quote Originally Posted by davide.cool View Post
    Well, if u have the chance to go in Dolomites Mountains, local souvenirs shops has some nice postcards of mountains, surrounded by flowered edelweiss fields. I dont have the scanner. I cannot scan the postcards i took when i was in there
    Ok next please. One pic with the daisies or primroses please.
    Sry but where have you seen flowers growing curved like yours (daisy pic as example)?
    And do you really think all flowers should be only clones there is absolutely no variances in the most of your grass textures. Go out and meet mother nature she is the best teacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argent Usher View Post
    Ok next please. One pic with the daisies or primroses please.
    Sry but where have you seen flowers growing curved like yours (daisy pic as example)?
    And do you really think all flowers should be only clones there is absolutely no variances in the most of your grass textures. Go out and meet mother nature she is the best teacher.

    Regards A.U.
    Calm down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argent Usher View Post
    Ok next please. One pic with the daisies or primroses please.
    Sry but where have you seen flowers growing curved like yours (daisy pic as example)?
    And do you really think all flowers should be only clones there is absolutely no variances in the most of your grass textures. Go out and meet mother nature she is the best teacher.

    Regards A.U.
    so what's the problem dude? why are u attackin me?

    it's obvious i cannot recreate 100% real ambience, simply because med2 has engine limits and u should know that. I dont see even the purpose to put 3000 different flowers in the same texture, who will make battlefield close to a 1700 victorian style garden for sure, instead of a normal flowered field

    you are not obliged to install or play the mod if u dont like it

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    Not gonna lie when I first saw a better grass mod I thought to myself who cares but having seen these pics WOW is all i got to say
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    Quote Originally Posted by davide.cool View Post
    so what's the problem dude? why are u attackin me?

    it's obvious i cannot recreate 100% real ambience, simply because med2 has engine limits and u should know that. I dont see even the purpose to put 3000 different flowers in the same texture, who will make battlefield close to a 1700 victorian style garden for sure, instead of a normal flowered field

    you are not obliged to install or play the mod if u dont like it
    Indeed it is obvious you cannot recreate 100% real ambience.

    Then i see it as an insult if someone speak with me without respect so please stop your slang speech and calling me dude.
    I never attacked you personally and i just asked you for some reference files of your work.
    I will look at your files but i have already seen much better work with an older tw engine.
    If someone makes a mod and calls it BETTER Grass (IMO an insult to any of former work by CA skinners), had the time for dev (several months) and then start here to cry if someone makes a critical comment about his mod well then make a BETA for your next project or take more care if you make textures.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Argent Usher View Post
    Indeed it is obvious you cannot recreate 100% real ambience.
    this point is clear

    Quote Originally Posted by Argent Usher View Post

    Then i see it as an insult if someone speak with me without respect so please stop your slang speech and calling me dude.
    I never attacked you personally and i just asked you for some reference files of your work.
    i dont cry if someone criticizes me. It's since 2005 i mod things so no problem about "eventual critics"

    reference: CliffRose flowers for example... i went to greece 2 years ago and it's considered one of their national flowers.. grows on arid - semi-arid grounds conditions, findable massively close to the sea or hills. blossoms in march-june, one flower blossoms a day. It is used in incense and in older days goats were let into the bushed and the flowers stuck onto them and then they were picked off the animals. In modern days pieces of cloth and leather are dragged through the fields


    Greece second Med2 editor is considered "arid", so i chose to give that to the climate.

    is it enough?


    Quote Originally Posted by Argent Usher View Post

    I will look at your files but i have already seen much better work with an older tw engine.
    not my problem at all. As i said in BG sub forum, medII grass is planned thru vertical-horizontal-diagonal lines and it's not developed uniformely as CA made in RTW


    Quote Originally Posted by Argent Usher View Post

    If someone makes a mod and calls it BETTER Grass (IMO an insult to any of former work by CA skinners), had the time for dev (several months) and then start here to cry if someone makes a critical comment about his mod well then make a BETA for your next project or take more care if you make textures.

    Did u prefer i make 3d models of flowers in game, who med II will consider 30000% 3d objects? with the result of soldiers who beats their body against them, simply cuz med2 will see flowers exactly as a tree or an fixed obstacle

    "better grass" not means better in the planet. Is it better than vanilla med2 one? yes

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    Default Re: Better Grass 1.0 (for M2TW)

    seems like a rather harsh critique...I myself feel that the new grass elements make for a rather more lively looking battlefield,excellent work

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    thanks

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    Wow... that looks really awesome, davide! Nice work!

    @ Agent: You do realize that the title is "Better Grass", and not, "Best Grass", right? And I hope that you also realize that that was not criticism, but rather an attack. Saying "it sucks" isn't a valid criticism, and neither is criticizing things that are hardcoded. Maybe next time you could make specific suggestions for how to make it better, if it gets under your skin that much. Cheers!
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    Ah, very cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aesthete View Post
    @ Argent: You do realize that the title is "Better Grass", and not, "Best Grass", right? And I hope that you also realize that that was not criticism, but rather an attack. Saying "it sucks" isn't a valid criticism, and neither is criticizing things that are hardcoded. Maybe next time you could make specific suggestions for how to make it better, if it gets under your skin that much. Cheers!
    Whatever you mean... but i can't remember me i said "It sucks..." but you can quote the line.

    I gave davide.cool a first bug report in his thread and told him why it looks unrealistic versus a natural enviroment that's more as i can see by other members.


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    One pice of advice.

    Get rid of the flowers.

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    wow, those maps look lovley

    I must admit there are perhaps a few too many flowers

    But very nice work +rep ^-^

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    Wow i'm almost wanting to get MTW 2 Just to download this mod! +Rep
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