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    Default I just wonder..

    .. Since we have Maratha Confederecy and the indians using swords and bows and such, would it be hard to make a potential classical mod? Since we have the "fighting style", dont we only need to make new models?
    Interested in how Attila and the new LONGBEARDS DLC plays?

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    Total War: Attila with ERE vs Sassanids GEM at max settings:
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    easier way would be to import Rome's models into 3ds Max, then export them to Empire's model formats when/if we get some 3ds Max tools.

    The only things that will probably need to be models will be Greek Triremes (working on that right now. )

    And restrict the other modded factions to using nothing but Galleys, just making sure to remove their 4 42lber guns.
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    Default Re: I just wonder..

    Cool..
    Interested in how Attila and the new LONGBEARDS DLC plays?

    Check out my Total War Attila: Jutes Let's Play: http://youtu.be/rFyxh4mj1pQ
    Check out my Total War Attila: The Langobards Let's Play: http://youtu.be/lMiHXVvVbCE
    Total War: Attila with ERE vs Sassanids GEM at max settings:
    http://youtu.be/jFYENvVpwIs
    Total War: Rome II Medieval Kingdoms Mod Gameplay: http://youtu.be/qrqGUYaLVzk

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    The fact that weapons and models are seperate now really helps alot in this too. Ofcourse the key to everything is the mod tools... do you hear that CA? Give us the tools! LOL I'm looking forward to Roman Empires:Total War... oooo... that's a good name.

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    Roman Empire:Total War you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dud doodoo View Post
    Roman Empire:Total War you mean?

    why not just

    Rome: Total War... BALLIN! Remixed

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    You might not be able to use a lot of stuff like the testudo and flaming arrows etc though.
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    I'm sure you can do flaming arrows, you make a new projectile with higher damage and decreased range, then make a fire effect on the arrow(could be done one way or another)

    I haven't done much with special abilities, but I'm certain it's there.

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    LOL

    You know there is already an ancient and medieval mod for Total War. They're called Rome: Total War and Medieval 2: Total War!

    Just kidding
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    lol that is a cool idea, but why not move forward? you guys... always lookin backward
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    Perhaps many of us think that the ancient time period was more fun than the modern one. :/

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    Im one of those guys
    Interested in how Attila and the new LONGBEARDS DLC plays?

    Check out my Total War Attila: Jutes Let's Play: http://youtu.be/rFyxh4mj1pQ
    Check out my Total War Attila: The Langobards Let's Play: http://youtu.be/lMiHXVvVbCE
    Total War: Attila with ERE vs Sassanids GEM at max settings:
    http://youtu.be/jFYENvVpwIs
    Total War: Rome II Medieval Kingdoms Mod Gameplay: http://youtu.be/qrqGUYaLVzk

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    Yeah...

    I think Rome was my favorite time period but was inferior to M2TW engine and far inferior to ETW engine.

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    Even if you could create the models you'd have to create proper animations. Roman legionaries swapping blows like 18th century gentlemen won't do for a classical mod at all. So animations are a must, and since CA used motion-capture for their animations I don't see how you'll get around that unless a modder has motion-capture software lying around .

    No, a CLassical-era mod for ETW simply isn't happening.


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    It's a good thing they bound combat animations to fighting style and not the models!

    See, ghoorkas, african spearmen, and several other units already use spears, swords, shield, etc.

    After skinning them correctly and applying the shield value (also still in the game,) it should be easy to start a classical mod.

    And that's only using the tools and methods discovered in the last two weeks, in the coming months I am sure it will get even easier to add and create units to do, just about anything.

    Good luck! Hope it works out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.B. Cooper View Post
    Even if you could create the models you'd have to create proper animations. Roman legionaries swapping blows like 18th century gentlemen won't do for a classical mod at all. So animations are a must, and since CA used motion-capture for their animations I don't see how you'll get around that unless a modder has motion-capture software lying around .

    No, a CLassical-era mod for ETW simply isn't happening.
    Well, in melee, I've not seen the soldiers "swapping blows like gentlemen", they've acted very natural during melee (because of the Mocap recordings), and from what I saw of played the Rome demo a couple of years back, the fighting animations looked too linear and robotic IMO, I think linking the skeletons to the models (I think that's how Rome worked anyway,), would make the Legions fight more fluidly.

    3ds Max CAN read Mocap data, and might be able to record it (I've never tried) the only problem, is having the necersary equipment.
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    Fifth Rate, HMS Poseidon.

    Fifth Rate, HMS Dauntless.

    Fifth Rate, HMS Enterprise NCC-1701

    Fifth Rate, HMS Simi.


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    Just shiny lights and a camera theoretically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhail Tomasovic View Post
    lol that is a cool idea, but why not move forward? you guys... always lookin backward

    My Son would like a mod that has factions from the dinosaurs (instead of Elephants), through cavemen and up to and including starwars.


    I think he wants to see how an army of Light Sabre equipped Darth Vaders would fare against cave bowmen mounted on a squad of T-Rexs.


    PM me if someone manages it :O)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captian Barbossa View Post
    easier way would be to import Rome's models into 3ds Max, then export them to Empire's model formats when/if we get some 3ds Max tools
    be even better if they went with Blender.

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    yay for classical mod!!!

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