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Thread: which version of the quote by Mehmed II is correct

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    sabaku_no_gaara's Avatar Indefinitely Banned
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    i heared versions of a quote, and i wonder wich is the correct one.

    one is "Woe to Christendom she has lost her shield and sword"

    and the other version is: "woe to Christendom asia and europe are mine at last"

    said by Mehmed II after the death of Skanderberg

    but what exactly is the correct quote?

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    I think based on what has been said by the others on the forum that it is the shield and sword one but i am not sure
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    I've heard them both before, but I think the first one is the one most commonly quoted.
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