Sabaeans?

**John-117** · March 16, 2009, 07:30 AM

Hey EB team,

I was just playing my campaign as (I'll try to get this right) As Sabyn Wal Jau, and wsa wondering if they will still be in EB 2? I love them to death, and am not even partly done. i love that they have such reliable infantry, plus the bowmen/spearmen unit. thanx guys

**Ludens** · March 16, 2009, 08:15 AM

According to the FAQ, none of the current EB1 factions will be removed. I suspect some may be given an overhaul, though.

**eggthief** · March 16, 2009, 08:16 AM

Why would they kick out a faction? If any other would've been more important according to the EB team, then the Saba wouldn't have made it into EB 1 in the first place.

**Ludens** · March 16, 2009, 11:46 AM

Because they changed their mind? The Yuezhi were removed from EB1 for the Saka, and the Iberians changed into the Lusitanians.

EB1's faction list is certainly not the only possible one, even when applying the same criteria. For example, you can argue that the inclusion of the Suebi is stretch, because it may not have existed or been particularly powerful at EB's starting date. Also, the Germans of EB's time-frame probably lacked the political sophistication to build empires. Instead, you could replace them with Pergamon: a wealthy city state that at some point looked poised to establish itself as a major successor kingdom. The EB team chose to go for the Germans rather than the Pergamene, probably because they felt that the Greeks were already well represented, while the Germans otherwise would have nothing.

**eddy_purpus** · March 16, 2009, 06:57 PM

Pergamon = Troy ?
or is it near Troy?

**John-117** · March 16, 2009, 08:19 PM

i think it was ebuilt on top of troy, but i could be wrong

**Ludens** · March 17, 2009, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by eddy_purpus

Pergamon = Troy ?
or is it near Troy?

Nope, Pergamon was further south, to the East of Lesbos. Troy covered the entrance of the Bosphorus. In EB's time, the nearest town would be Sigeum. Check these maps: (Athenian empire, Oxford map of classical Greece). Troy is indicated as Ilium.

**eddy_purpus** · March 18, 2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ludens

Nope, Pergamon was further south, to the East of Lesbos. Troy covered the entrance of the Bosphorus. In EB's time, the nearest town would be Sigeum. Check these maps: (Athenian empire, Oxford map of classical Greece). Troy is indicated as Ilium.

ohh thanks...
i was always intrigued to know if Pergamon was Troy... as Pergamon is a rich city in RTW ...
thankx

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · March 18, 2009, 05:50 PM

Troy should be marked on the map. In the Pergamon province, northwest of Pergamon, there should be a ring of white stones. This marker represents the location of Troy.

**John-117** · March 18, 2009, 05:52 PM

oh really? cool. ill try finding it tonight

**eddy_purpus** · March 18, 2009, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

Troy should be marked on the map. In the Pergamon province, northwest of Pergamon, there should be a ring of white stones. This marker represents the location of Troy.

i fhinkz ive seen it ...

yeah i have seen it

**delra** · March 18, 2009, 11:40 PM

Romans get a special message when they conquer that region (Pergamum) saying they reclaimed their ancestors lands.

**John-117** · March 19, 2009, 07:28 AM

really? thats pretty cool.

oh speaking of romans, i have a weird glitch or something. when a unit routs, it has the EB picture on it, but it says they flee like "feeble romans" no matter what faction i play (as the sabaeans i probably would've never heard of the romans yet historically). and then when i kill an enemy captain/general it says that it would "strenghten carthage". whats wrong with these messages?!