Stop making "no mortars" rules.

[Reza]

If you are so awful that you can't figure out how to use cavalry, you shouldn't be playing this game.

[Lupu]

You can use any units against art, the problem isn't that, the problem is that they are cheaper and better than most other art, that's unbalancing, it's not because we're stupid.

[Arrowhead]

They should just increase their price in the next patch. Shut the whiners up.

[Reza]

You can use any units against art, the problem isn't that, the problem is that they are cheaper and better than most other art, that's unbalancing, it's not because we're stupid.

I agree, but all factions have mortars, so it's not like it isn't fair. They should be bumped up to 800-1000 next patch in my opinion.

[Thanatos]

If people are openly complaining, even going so far as to create servers with "no mortars" in the name, it's evident that it's not just a mere complaint, but a recurring problem.

[Renown]

lol. People do these things in every game. Doesn't matter what game, they find something they dislike and forbid it in their own servers.

Doesn't mean theres a problem with the unit, not usually, people just don't like it, or know how to fight it.

Either way, no mortar games bother you? make your own.

Mortars bother you? do what you are already doing.


Nothing to see here...

[Paul d]

No art, No eles, max 2 horse archer, max 6 same.

Same old BS.

[Arrowhead]

The whining is just really annoying for the guy like me who doesn't care either way. I go into a server with the no mortar rule and I'm like ok whatever, but then there's always that one guy who doesn't listen and we FINALLY get in game and if there's a single mortar present, everyone just rage quits and I'm left sitting there by myself.

Just make it a server variable, increase the price, get the hell over it, anything to stop the incessant whining please.

[Armatus]

it's evident that it's not just a mere complaint, but a recurring problem.

Well since I haven't got ETW yet, my guess is that most people don't want to deal with it in online matches because it can upset the balance between teams. Consider this, servers have been consistently set up titled "No Art" ever since M1.

Just don't join those servers or create your own game.

[Thanatos]

No, see, I'm fine with artillery, that's fine. I just don't like the mortars.

[Armatus]

ah then I have proven my ignorance here not having the game yet I assume it was like all others in the series, well you all carry on and have fun. I want to see some screens of your battles!

[Roborob]

yeah, more than 2 mortars is just annoying. 2 is beatable, yet still effective as artillery without being game-breaking

[Thanatos]

Well, take for example, a siege battle I participated in.

I was on offense.

As soon as the battle starts, the defender guy has around literally 8-10 mortars. They fire once, and *bam* my entire army is either dead, wavering, or routing.

After the second volley....

The battle ended in less than five minutes.

Give me a break, man.

[HomeInvasion916]

Arty was part of war.

[Roborob]

too bad this is a game though. And games need balance

[PrimeChaosVC]

My problem is that Mortar and their exploding rounds is that it makes other arty useless, cannon crew are taken down in one shot less than 5 sec into the game before I can get it within range. It makes the game silly. Increasing the price of Mortar is not going to solve the problem, reducing the rang and accuracy is, mortar doesn't have longer range than cannon.

[bessus]

I can't think of any armies of the time showing up with half their men manning mortars! If that was to happen they would have been wipped out!

I want to play a game where tactics are important not how many mortars/anti cav units I can get for my money.

[RoutingUrban]

I have had few problems with mortar.

Someone spammed 4 of them earlier today and I had no problem with them.

Very few casualties from them.

Same with rockets. No one likes them either.

[bessus]

I dont have a problem with them when theres a few and I also like to have one or two but when you have to fight against 5+ on top of a hill then

[PrimeChaosVC]

I think the best way to counter mortar spam is to take more troops and about 1 or 2 mortar yourself as a mortar decoy. Honestly mortar is making the other arty units useless, not very fun when all you use is one type of arty in the game when there is serveral to chose from.