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    Anyone think the skirmishers are a bit overpowerd? I've researched the rifled barrels which gives me the green jackets for the british and I think they're a bit overpowered. I mean they have skirmish mode and 125 range with a 65 accuracy. They can pretty much hold their own against a rank fire line infantry with only half the men.

    I never used skirmishers before but now I'm going to make them 1/4 of my army.

    P.S. Off topic. But I just did an epic battle against the prussians. It was a nice set battle and a good change of pace from the mobs/militia I was facing in India and NA. Took out the cannons with the Green jackets and put some quicklime and shrapnel to soften them up before advancing.

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    British baker rifle was accurate to 200 yards but took longer to load than musket.Most British skirmishers were the light company of line regiments or light inf battalions with a normal musket.The rifles were only specialised troops so should be very expensive to produce.

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    I assume the balance is the time it takes them to reload though..

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    i usually let all the light infantry volley once or twice depending on what the enemy does after being fired upon and then tell them to fall back through the lines so they don't get caught up in the crossfire between the main lines.

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    I use hidden skirmish units and dragoons/carbines on the flank to bring about enfilade once the main lines have met. As another user pointed out, the higher accuracy means better point fire into mixed groups of friendlies. Also means the skirmishers are more likely to seek out and hit officers and leaders in units.

    Watch closely who they shoot for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coman View Post
    I use hidden skirmish units and dragoons/carbines on the flank to bring about enfilade once the main lines have met. As another user pointed out, the higher accuracy means better point fire into mixed groups of friendlies. Also means the skirmishers are more likely to seek out and hit officers and leaders in units.

    Watch closely who they shoot for.
    Not sure if the unit would get a morale hit if their unit leader and/or flagbearer or drummer died. They're pretty good though. I had 15 units of riflemen facing off against the same number of line infantry with some 6 pounders and I won a decisive victory.

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    They were overpowered IRL too!
    The 95th single handedly won the Napoleonic wars


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    As someone said the English army focused on elite troups rather than numbers. Besides every green coat company was commanded by a Sharpe clone with a Harper and assorted others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansel View Post
    They were overpowered IRL too!
    The 95th single handedly won the Napoleonic wars

    Baught the collectors edition as soon as E:TW was announced...just love it. And yes, those guys seem to know how to win a battle with 6 fellas against a whole french devision

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    If you want to see Op'd check out the winbusch jagers (sp). I eat up Prussian line with them. they reload ridicolously fast and are accurate and powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G.Seimore View Post
    Baught the collectors edition as soon as E:TW was announced...just love it. And yes, those guys seem to know how to win a battle with 6 fellas against a whole french devision

    AAHHH SHARPE !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenon View Post
    As someone said the English army focused on elite troups rather than numbers.
    I was just thinking about this and I'm not sure it was true. Britain's army was small and professional yes but hardly filled with 'elite' units. I believe the reasoning was something to do with by creating an elite force (like Napoleons Imperial Guard for example) you weakened larger army, and men who would normally be an NCO would remain privates. I think its still an argument against things like the SAS and certain other 'elite' forces that appear in other armies.

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    I guess I could agree to them being slightly overpowered. At the same time I think it is just our imagination because they are specialty troops, not made to go up against a massive wall of line infantry, but rather pick off and soften targets while the line infantry approaches. They are especially good for killing artillery as the canister/shrapnel shots are not nearly as effective as they are at a range of 70.

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    I like them a lot and find them very useful, they certainly are powerful

    although in the last battle I had, enemy cavalry somewhat decimated some of my groups

    they do make very good skirmishers though, they have the improved fougasse as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChris View Post

    they do make very good skirmishers though, they have the improved fougasse as well!
    Really sweet! Who could deploy the old fougasse though. Skirmishers?

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    www.1st95thrifles.com

    They only had one training camp at Shorncliffe in Kent. They were certainly an elite unit and if I modded the game I'd only allow them to recruit in one town in England.Bit inaccurate to have masses of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansel View Post
    They were overpowered IRL too!
    The 95th single handedly won the Napoleonic wars

    LOL. seriously.
    one of the best replies ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jihada View Post
    www.1st95thrifles.com

    They only had one training camp at Shorncliffe in Kent. They were certainly an elite unit and if I modded the game I'd only allow them to recruit in one town in England.Bit inaccurate to have masses of them.
    Well they are only recruitable in GB. I can get them in Edinburgh and London.

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    Richard Sharpe > *

    Love the green jackets.

    That series of books is one of my all time favorites.

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    Lol, Green Jackets vs any Cavalry and the Green jackets will be eating dirt.

    People seem to forget all about the poor horses.

    Also, Green Jackets IRL were some of the best infantry regiments of the 18th century. To my knowledge they are just as good present day. Except for the whole Raping and murdering...
    Last edited by Remo; March 10, 2009 at 02:31 AM.

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