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Thread: Is it true the British defeat at Cartagena in 1741? Vernon vs. Blezo

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    Default Re: Is it true the British defeat at Cartagena in 1741? Vernon vs. Blezo

    Still doesn't matter cause we all know who lost the war... a single battle amounts to little you know.
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    Default Re: Is it true the British defeat at Cartagena in 1741? Vernon vs. Blezo

    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire_ View Post
    It was just a siege, nobody was really defeated or winner. Victory or defeat it's only for battle not siege.
    Oh, too bad. So there is no winner in sports events, either, I assume? After all, a race or a throwing contest are not battles, either... :hmmm:

    Darn, and I really thought I won that game of chess last night.

    And who's gonna tell the truth to the poor souls that mistakenly thought they won the lottery?

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    Default Re: Is it true the British defeat at Cartagena in 1741? Vernon vs. Blezo

    Quote Originally Posted by gaius valerius View Post
    Still doesn't matter cause we all know who lost the war... a single battle amounts to little you know.
    there's the important part.

    if you're looking for a list of british defeats in battle over the last 300 or so years you can fill entire books with them. battles dont always win wars though, and the british have a habit of being on the right side at the end of the day.
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    Default Re: Is it true the British defeat at Cartagena in 1741? Vernon vs. Blezo

    Quote Originally Posted by Sascha View Post
    Oh, too bad. So there is no winner in sports events, either, I assume? After all, a race or a throwing contest are not battles, either... :hmmm:

    Darn, and I really thought I won that game of chess last night.

    And who's gonna tell the truth to the poor souls that mistakenly thought they won the lottery?
    An exemple for you, Alexander the great has 4 victories Granicus Issus Gaugamela Hydaspes all pitched battles, sieges like Tyr aren't victories.

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    Still an amazing victory nonetheless

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    Default Re: Is it true the British defeat at Cartagena in 1741? Vernon vs. Blezo

    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire_ View Post
    An exemple for you, Alexander the great has 4 victories Granicus Issus Gaugamela Hydaspes all pitched battles, sieges like Tyr aren't victories.
    sounds like an argument about semantics to me.. both of you know that the british were bested so why the argument?.
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    Default Re: Is it true the British defeat at Cartagena in 1741? Vernon vs. Blezo

    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire_ View Post
    An exemple for you, Alexander the great has 4 victories Granicus Issus Gaugamela Hydaspes all pitched battles, sieges like Tyr aren't victories.
    yeah, the citizens of Tyr still insisted on a tactical draw when being shipped off into slavery...

    Sieges like Tyre and Gaza might not be counted because they did not take place between the main combatants but were conducted by one side to take control of a region. In the discussed case you have both main combatants involved in the fighting to take or keep control of a strategic harbour.

    The British certainly didn't ship so many men halfway around the world to die of disease quicker, sink some ships and then sail home.
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