Hitler and Himalaya - the mission of SS in Tibet 1938-39

[Starlightman]

From the most exotic ideas that never had drawn the West in the Tibet, that of expedition of Nazi, and the searches for the pure residues of Aryan race, it constitutes most eccentric.

On 19 January 1939, five members of Waffen-SS, the troops Nazi of Heinrich Himmler, passed via the ancient, arched gate that led to the holy city of Lhasa. As a lot of Europeans, they had extraordinary and fantastic aspects for the Tibet, in order that does report Orville Schell in the bookVirtual Tibet,"a clew this full imagination round removed and unknown land".
The drawings of expedition of Nazi, nevertheless, did not contain, in us acquaintance, search for Shangri-La, the lost ground which had a unique perfect and peaceful social system in order to it defends oneself in the infringements where cursed the remainder humanity.
On the contrary, the perfection that sought the Nazi was a idea of racial perfection that would justify their opinions in the world history and the German superiority.

But what affected this strange placement of Tibetan nuns next to officers of SS in the end of Second World War is a strange history of secret services, mysticism, racial pseudo-science, and political intrigue.

It was, in the substance, in a diplomatic and semi-scientific mission in order to they develop relations between Nazi Germany and the Tibet and they seek lost remnants one of fantastic Aryan race lost somewhere in Tibetan plateau.

Thus, they constituted expression the more widely widespread paranoid and eccentric ideas of Hitler in the love for nation and the property. And while Tibetians ignored completely the racist action of Hitler, the mission at 1939 in the Tibet remain a warning fable for how the foreigner ideas, the symbols, and the terminology can be used erroneously.

Certain militarists Nazi imagined the Tibet as a possible base in order to they attack in British India, and hoped that this mission would lead in a type of alliance with their Tibetians. About this they were at a part successful.
The mission received Reting Regent (that it had it led the Tibet from the death of 13th Dalai Lama in 1933), and indeed achieved in it convinces the Regent to agree with Adolf Hitler. But the Germans they was interested for the Tibet and for other reason. The officers of Nazi as Heinrich Himmler they believed that the Tibet provided shelter in the last ones from the Aryan races, their legend ancestors of German race, which the heads of possessed supernatural forces that the Nazi could use in order to they conquer the world.

This was the season of European extension, and many theories ensured ideological excuse for the imperialism. In Germany the idea of one Aryan or "superior" race they were strengthened by the extreme nationalism, the idea of German superman made from the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche, and opera celebration of Wagner of Scandinavian heroic narrations and Teytonic of mythologies.

Very before the mission 1939 in the Tibet, the Nazi had been lented Asiatic symbols and language and used him for their own aims. A important number of articles of oratory and symbolism of Nazi they emanate from the language and the religions of Asia. Term "aryan",as an example, it emanates from Sanskritik word arya, that means superior.

In Bedes, the most ancient Indian holy texts, the term describes a race with persons of open colour from Central Asia that fought and subjugated the persons with the closed colour (or Dravidian) the Indian continent. Linguistic proofs support the massive immigration of persons of Central Asia, that is now reported as Indoeuropeans, in India and Europe roughly between 2000 and 1500 B.C.E., even if he is not evident if these Indoeuropeans were the himself with their Arioys of Bedon.

translated from Greek from @esoterica.gr

[Exarch]

are these the very same nazis who researched into occult mysticism to aid them in world domination?
like the spear of destiny?

[Starlightman]

are these the very same nazis who researched into occult mysticism to aid them in world domination?
like the spear of destiny?

Yes...Nazis symbols and mysticism have strong relations...

[bushbush]

i watched a movie on that. I thought it was fantasy.

[Erebus Pasha]

Bulletproof Monk?

[Starlightman]

continue.....

To the dues 19th - and the beginnings 20th - century European ultra nationalists and mystikistes as Joseph Arthur de Gobineau, with ideas as this for the Indoeuropeans and of light colour Arioys they led to a twisted fable of Scandinavia and slower exclusively the German racial superiority.

The identification of Germans with the Indoeuropeans, and Aryoys the second millennium eg give historical priority in the imperial "place in sun" the Germans.
The nationalists German racist it was considered that they wanted they conquer and they dominate.

Also it helped in the fighting of antisemitism and xenophobia, after Jews, Gypsy and other minorities were not shared the Aryan German heritage as members of prevailing race.
Ideas for a Arya or sovereign race began to present themselves in the popular means of briefing in the dues of 19th century. In the decade of '80, the E.B. Lytton, a Rodostayros, write a novel best-seller round the idea of secular energy (possible mainly in the female sex), which it named "Vril".
Later it wrote for Vril society, that was constituted by in favour-beings which would emerge from the secret points that were hidden in order to they control the world.

His fantasies coincided with a big interest for the occultism, mainly between the superior orders, with many secret companies that were founded in order to propaganda these ideas. They had scope from those that were dedicated in the Holy Communion cup up to those that followed the mystikopathy sex of also narcotics of Alistair Crowley, and many appearred to have a vague attraction for him believe the Buddhist and Indians.


The general Haushofer, a believer of Gurdjieff and one of the main protectors of Hitler later, founded a such company.
Aim his was discovers the origin of Aryan race, Haushofer name it Vril Society, after the novel of Lytton.
Her members practiced in the cogitation in order to they wake up forces of Vril, female secular energy. The company Vril supported that had bonds with their Tibetians masters.

In Germany this mixture of ancient fables and scientific theories of 19th century began to develop in a faith that the Germans were the purest event of being inherent superior Aryan race, which the fate of was to control the world.
These ideas took scientific weight from sick theories from a respectable family and racist ethnography.

Round 1919, the Company Vril gave space in the Company Thule (Thule Gesellschaft), that was founded in Munich by the Baron Rudolf von Sebottendorf. The company Thule supported itself in the deliveries of many battalions as Jesuits, Knights Templar, the Battalion of Golden Dawn, and Soyfi.

Promoted the fable of Thule, a legend island in the frozen northern countries that were the house of superior race, authentic Aryan. As in the fable of Atlantis,the residents of Thule were disappeared by a destruction that destroyed their world.

But survivor maintained their magic forces and they were hidden from the world, perhaps in secret tunnels in the Tibet, where it was perhaps met and followingly they stored their forces for the Aryan descendants.


continue tomorrow with Nazi symbols and paganism....

[bushbush]

Bulletproof Monk?

(such a horrible movie too)

[Starlightman]

continue from yesterday...


Such ideas possibly remained harmless, but the Company Thule gave a possible dextral, antisemitic ideology in the mythology of Company Vril.
They created a energetic Opposition in the local Socialist government in Munich and dealt with battles in the streets and political murders. As their symbol, with sword and the leaves of oak they adopted also Swastika, that was used by previous teams of Germans neo-Pagans.

The admiration of Swastika in the Company Thule appears that it was more for her dramatic force rather and no for the cultural and mystic importance. They believed that it was a authentic Aryan symbol, even if in the substance it had been used by many cultures, that did not have relation from each other, at the duration of history.

Beside the adoption of Swastika, it is difficult we judge the importance of role that it played the Tibet or the Buddhism in the ideology of Company Vril.

The founder of Company Vril, General Haushofer, that remained active in the Company Thule, was diplomatic attaché of Germany in Japan. There possibly it acquired certain knowledge for Zen Buddhism, that then was the main faith of Japanese military men.

Other members of Company Thule, however, can only read initial German studies on the Buddhism, and these studies had the tendency of creation pure, authentic Buddhism that had been lost, and a degenerated Buddhism that survived, very polluted from original local faiths. It appears that the Buddhism was something more from a poor comprehension and a exotic element in the vague faiths of Company, and had a small influence in the ideology of Thule. But the Tibet possessed a much more possible place in their mythology, imagined him as the house of what survived from the fabulous race Thule.

The importance of Company Thule appear from the fact that in her members were included also the Nazi officers Rudolf Hess (deputy of Hitler), Heinrich Himmler, and almost himself Hitler. But while Hitler was at least legal Catholic, Himmler it accepted the aims and the faiths of Company Thule.

It adopted a line of new-pagan ideas and it believed that the himself was metempsychosis of German king of 10th century. Himmler appears that had been attracted very hard in the probability the Tibet to be proved that it was shelter of authentic Aryan and supermen forces. Until does write Hitler the "Mein Kampf" the decade of '20, the fable of Aryan race had been extended completely.

In capital XI, "Race and Humans" , it expressed interesting to what that they perceived as a mix of pure Ayan blood with this of more inferior persons.

According to his opinion, pure German Aryan races were corrupted by the extended communication with the Jews.

It mourned that northern Europe "jewed" and that the authentic pure blood of Germans was polluted by the extended communication with the Jews. For Hitler, the only solution to this mixing of "Aryan" and Jewish blood they were for the corrupted Germans to find the inhexaustible source of Aryan blood.

It can happen this during the history, such persons they came in communication a second time, and perhaps more often, with the initial founders of their culture and perhaps even they do not remember this the removed contact.

A new cultural wave comes and it lasts up to that the blood standard-bearers is adulterated once more with mixture from the initial conquered race. In the "search for one second time" with their Aryans, the Tibet - very isolated, mysterious and circumspect - appeared one attractive candidate.


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[krips22]

From the most exotic ideas that never had drawn the West in the Tibet, that of expedition of Nazi, and the searches for the pure residues of Aryan race, it constitutes most eccentric.
[...]
with ideas as this for the Indoeuropeans and of light colour Arioys

Well, I'm not at all in this "el cheapo" mysticism (or in any mysticism anyway...), or in any "aryan" racial superiority ideology, but I know where they got their ideas about Aryans and Indo-Europeans from ...

Afghanistan (west of Tibet) :

North Pakistan (Kalash from the Hindu Kush west of Tibet) :

Xinjiang (North-western China - North of Tibet) :

India (South of Tibet) :

Iran (Persia) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#Etymology

The term Iran (ایران) in modern Persian derives from the Proto-Iranian term Aryānām first attested in Zoroastrianism's Avesta tradition.[23] Ariya- and Airiia- are also attested as an ethnic designator in Achaemenid inscriptions. The term Ērān, from Middle Persian Ērān (written as ʼyrʼn) is found on the inscription that accompanies the investiture relief of Ardashir I at Naqsh-e Rustam.[24] In this inscription, the king's appellation in Middle Persian contains the term ērān (Pahlavi ʼryʼn), while in the Parthian language inscription that accompanies it, the term aryān describes Iran. In Ardashir's time, ērān retained this meaning, denoting the people rather than the state.

Notwithstanding this inscriptional use of ērān to refer to the Iranian peoples, the use of ērān to refer to the geographical empire is also attested in the early Sassanid period. An inscription relating to Shapur I, Ardashir's son and immediate successor, includes regions which were not inhabited primarily by Iranians in Ērān regions, such as Armenia and the Caucasus."[25] In Kartir's inscriptions the high priest includes the same regions in his list of provinces of the antonymic Anērān.[25] Both ērān and aryān come from the Proto-Iranian term Aryānām, (Land) of the (Iranian) Aryas. The word and concept of Airyanem Vaejah is present in the name of the country Iran (Lit. Land of the Aryans) inasmuch as Iran (Ērān) is the modern Persian form of the word Aryānā.

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/d...she_rostam.php

Darius' inscription at Naqsh-e Rostam :

II. I am Darius the Great King, King of Kings, King of countries containing all kinds of men, King in this great earth far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenian, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage.

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A necklace excavated in Iran from the 1st millenium BC (from the National Iran Museum) - see the swastika wikipedia page.

We can easily follow the path of their reasonning.

[Starlightman]

Well, I'm not at all in this "el cheapo" mysticism (or in any mysticism anyway...), or in any "aryan" racial superiority ideology, but I know where they got their ideas about Aryans and Indo-Europeans from ...

Afghanistan (west of Tibet) :

North Pakistan (Kalash from the Hindu Kush west of Tibet) :

We can easily follow the path of their reasonning.

nice post my friend,thank you for this info...

About the tribe of Kalash they connected with Alexander the Great...

There's a Myth says when Alexander goes to India he find people who talk to him in Greek...i try to find more infos about that but i think is off topic...

[Exarch]

wow interesting dood
i've never been to xinjiang but i'd heard of the uigurs
had no idea they looked so...caucasian

[zero0609]

I am pretty sure those people in the pictures from XinJiang are not Uyghurs. Uyghurs looks like a mix between chinese and middle easterners, and the people from those pictures looks completely caucasian. My guess is they are probably descendent from russian immigrants.

[Exarch]

I am pretty sure those people in the pictures from XinJiang are not Uyghurs. Uyghurs looks like a mix between chinese and middle easterners, and the people from those pictures looks completely caucasian. My guess is they are probably descendent from russian immigrants.

interesitng
what about harbin chinese?
do they look white russian also?

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

I am pretty sure those people in the pictures from XinJiang are not Uyghurs. Uyghurs looks like a mix between chinese and middle easterners, and the people from those pictures looks completely caucasian. My guess is they are probably descendent from russian immigrants.

Well remember the Caucasian mummies found in china a few years back? possible descendants?

[Captain Jin]

Well, I'm not at all in this "el cheapo" mysticism (or in any mysticism anyway...), or in any "aryan" racial superiority ideology, but I know where they got their ideas about Aryans and Indo-Europeans from ...

There are also a lot of people in Iraq with blonde hair and blue eyes. I never understood it personally. The first time I saw white kids there I was very confused. In fact once I saw a man carrying a young girl maybe three or so, she was very white and with blue eyes and blonde hair and he was your typical Arab with black hair and tan skin yet he swore up and down she was his biological daughter. I don't man, interesting stuff. :hmmm:

[Ahlerich]

yeah i watched this in a documentary once beside lots of other nazi expeditions. crazy . the eternal search for the übermensch

[Captain Jin]

Which is what made the Indiana Jones movies so great. The fact that the Nazis actually were looking for that kind of stuff. But then they had to go put aliens in the latest one. Ridiculous i Say! Though Im not religious I find all that stuff very fascinating.

[Pious Agnost]

Amazing

The second picture posted by krips22 scares me though :hmmm:

[Exarch]

Which is what made the Indiana Jones movies so great. The fact that the Nazis actually were looking for that kind of stuff. But then they had to go put aliens in the latest one. Ridiculous i Say! Though Im not religious I find all that stuff very fascinating.

if they didnt have sucha racialist agenda behind these expeditions, i imagine they would've been much more successful.

on that note, how do we know that those caucasians in pakistan, afghanistan arent simply descendants of alexander the great's army?

[zero0609]

interesitng
what about harbin chinese?
do they look white russian also?

Most harbin chinese are immigrants from other parts of china, they look very chinese.