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    Default Re: Roma Surrectum 2 Faction Preview - The Dacians

    Quote Originally Posted by rory o'kane View Post
    Err... i think the RS Team has put in enough research work for this to be a better approximation of the Dacian's military forces than your presumptuous notion of how they "should be". so yes, yes, you ARE wrong.
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    There's nothing wrong with rory that 36 hours of sleep wouldn't cure.

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    Default Re: Roma Surrectum 2 Faction Preview - The Dacians

    Quote Originally Posted by Arnspac View Post
    There's nothing wrong with rory that 36 hours of sleep wouldn't cure. I would appreciate you editing your post and toning it down somewhat.

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    oh sorry shame on me i didnt read the rest of the posts didnt realise thatmaybe we should make him something special or a suprise for hes hard comitmet to the modding of this wonderfull mod


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    i'll be lucky to get 36 hours' worth of sleep before the end of the week, Arnspac. RAG is rather demanding of us medical students...
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    Thats what I love at RS Previews. It's not just pictures of some new units tossed in one topic, no! It's a whole bunch of research, clues, specialties of units and all this presentet with a light humor. I anticipate every preview as much as Empire! Seriously! 1 Rep



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    Wonderfully good! Well done

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    Simply AMAZING detail on the armor and standards. Really beautiful work. And the historical background information is very much appreciated. Keep up the excellent work!

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    This is my collection of Dacians for unit reference.
    Each plate has at lest one Dacian or Getae Warrior or a Roxolani allied from the first dacian war.


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    Here's a couple of pics we didn't use in the preview that I thought you may enjoy.


    Thanks for that.

    This claimed to be Dacian Cataphracts...but does anyone know what it really depicts?



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    This claimed to be Dacian Cataphracts...but does anyone know what it really depicts?
    Those are more likely to be their Roxolani allies, and the general feeling amongst historians is that they've gone a little OTT in their depiction of the amount of scale


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    hey tone can u show a list of the names of the legions in the game?
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    a little off-topic, dont'cha think?
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    So the Getae and the Dacians are the same people? I have heard all sorts of things. Or do I understand what you say wrong? This is what I am referring to:

    The Dacians were known as Geton (plural Getae) in Greek writings, and as Dacus (plural Daci) also Getae, in Roman documents, also as Dagae and Gaete.

    And not to try to pick a fight with anyone (it may just be coincidence), but that particular paragraph:

    The Dacians were known as Geton (plural Getae) in Greek writings, and as Dacus (plural Daci) also Getae, in Roman documents, also as Dagae and Gaete. Strabo states that the original name of the Dacians was "daoi", which could be explained with a possible Phrygian language connection, "daos", meaning "wolf". This assumption may be supported by the fact that the Dacian standard, the Draco, had a wolf's head. Their capital was not Argedava near the Danube, but Sarmizegetusa, in the Sureanu mountains, in the Romanian Western Carpathians.

    ...bears an uncanny resemblence with this one from wikipedia:

    The Dacians (tribe) were known as Geton (plural Getae) in Greek writings, and as Dacus (plural Daci) and also Getae in Roman documents; also as Dagae and Gaete—see the late Roman map Tabula Peutingeriana. Strabo states that the original name of the Dacians was "daoi", which could be explained with a possible Phrygian cognate "daos", meaning "wolf". This assumption may be supported by the fact that one of the Dacian standards, the Dacian Draco, had a wolf's head. Phrygii was another cognate used within the region, and in later times, some Roman auxiliaries recruited from the area were referred to as Phrygi. Their capital was not Argedava near the Danube, but Sarmizegetusa, in the Sureanu mountains, in the Romanian Western Carpathians.

    Of course, wiki also states before that that "The capital of the kingdom was the city of Argedava (also called Sargedava in some historical writings) situated close to the river Danube." So I wouldn't use it as a source on this subject.

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    Yes it does because it's edited somewhat, rather than plopping it all down. What should have been there but was omitted due to actions beyond my control was;

    Burebista had or centered his power in Argedava, Decebalus on the other hand located in Sarmizegetusa which, has been considered the 'capital' of the Dacians.

    There are many that talk / argue about ancient Romanian history, some saying that during the Communist era it was entirely re-written and many historical sources lost or destroyed. Today is still somewhat chaotic, but respected younger archaeoligists are attempting to rectify this. If you would like a real taste of how divisive this is, check this :

    http://www.allempires.net/forum_post...TID=22043&PN=1

    There is also another error in the preview. Cookie to any non-team member who finds it.

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    Default Re: Roma Surrectum 2 Faction Preview - The Dacians

    I don't deliberately seek out faults, but rather I am not scared to point out mistakes. And I only noticed the stuff about wikipedia because I quickly wanted to check about the Dacians and the Getae. The sentence "Their capital was not Argedava (...) but Sarmisegetusa (...)" kinda draws attention.

    Thanks for the link - it is very interesting. And your units are excellent.
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    Don't take wiki postings as being complete or accurate, though...

    They may not be either. :hmmm:
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    Of course not.


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    Default Re: Roma Surrectum 2 Faction Preview - The Dacians

    For instance, I once had to write an essay about the first crusade. I couldn't find the right information and used wiki... only to find out the next week that the information I had used was wrong.

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    Default Re: Roma Surrectum 2 Faction Preview - The Dacians

    Quote Originally Posted by Caligula Caesar View Post
    For instance, I once had to write an essay about the first crusade. I couldn't find the right information and used wiki... only to find out the next week that the information I had used was wrong.
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    Indeed. Although it was more along the line of how 50000 people got slaughtered :original:

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