31/03/2010 - Raaka's NORSE Roster

[Agis Tournas]

Plz plz plz, we need them for SS.

Oops..! You said the forbidden word...

[Beorn]

he says about RC/RR, which is kinda different

[Kjertesvein]

Awesome work, mate!
Do you give permission your work to be used in other mods outside DLV, with proper credits?

In principal I would say yes and I would like to say that we don't discriminate, but in this paticular (SS-) case

Edit: For Stormenn, it says they use a sword, then it says they use an axe. For Riddere, it says they use a sword, then it says they use a mace. Which is it?

In total, 6 diffrent looking axe-spears


Mace:


Long sword and Lance:

[Taiji]

The glaive is amazing, it just looks so damn dangerous. I want a whole unit of them, but the variation rocks too! It makes me think we should mix up the vanilla halberd units too, it's so realistic.

And what fun to have a dismounted general! I really wasn't sure at first, that's an understatement; really I thought it was crazy. But it works really well so far in my testing.

Loving it, Raaka, thankyou

[Raaka]

Plz plz plz, we need them for SS.

Edit: For Stormenn, it says they use a sword, then it says they use an axe. For Riddere, it says they use a sword, then it says they use a mace. Which is it?

Stormenn are using maces, Riddere swords. Thanks for pointing it out. Descriptions should be fixed now once Taiji uploads a new build *fingers crossed

[Harðurāðaz]

Looks great man!

[Haakon]

Wow great work! Is it possible to use this with SS 6.2?

[Visarion]

nice roster

[Pantsalot]

First of all awesome units

But thing is when I've tried them out in campaign they didn't seem all that well balanced.. those
veidimenn seem to nearly always get killed in one shot which makes them inferior to every other
archer unit while the Gestir & leidangr wouldn't hold up to the same number of sergeant spears &
raiders. Plus the respawn time to create a Huskarlar was 15 turns & 6 turns for Gestir? I find it much
easier being Scotland & in my time doing so Norway was killed off easily by Denmark..

Sorry greatly made units indeed but what happened to balancing them to make them as strong as they should
be but not too realistic/exaggerative on the idea of how rare they would be to come by in Scandinavia..

[Polycarpe]

I see that you give permission to use the work but to be sure I'll ask anyway the permission to use the roster for my historical and balancing submod (BG submod) for SS 6.3. You'll be very credited for that, superb work. Thank you in advance.

[Taiji]

I see that you give permission to use the work....

Show me where you see that, please.

AFAIK Raaka has specifically ignored requests from SS, he hasn't granted any.

You're welcome to ask him, and wait for his response, but I will report you to all-powerful TWC authorities if you take his work without permission.

[Polycarpe]

Show me where you see that, please.

AFAIK Raaka has specifically ignored requests from SS, he hasn't granted any.

You're welcome to ask him, and wait for his response, but I will report you to all-powerful TWC authorities if you take his work without permission.

"In principal I would say yes and I would like to say that we don't discriminate, but in this paticular (SS-) case"

I've send a message but I don't know if he's on TWC often. But, does SS has something that is wrong about? I'm doing a sub that is historical and more diverse for several rosters. And I've found that roster, it will be a great addition, but I'll wait for his response.

[Taiji]

If you quote a post properly I can check it, in my post you just quoted there is a green arrow, just have to click it and you get taken to my post. Would have saved me the bother of finding the post, especially bothersome since you quoted Sivilombudsmannen and not Raaka - the person whose work it is. Raaka, is the one ignoring the requests. I'm sure he'll be back, and he'll read your requests, but I think when he ignores you it means 'no, at least for now'.

What Sivilombudsmannen is trying to say there in what you quoted is that it's doubtful you will get permission because DLV doesn't like SS. DLV is the original m2tw mod and SS is some little upstart which is popular with the kids. Or something like that

Personally I just think they should be different. Have you played DLV? I recommend DLV+BB(all scripts, VH/VH), if you're a veteran TW player, or if you like a complicated challenge, then you'll probably enjoy it a great deal

[Makrell]

THIS MOD IS AWESOME

[TMSKILZ]

I am awesome! Taiji isn't too shabby himself!

[XIIICaesar]

Dude, your units look awesome. I normally play as England. Jus now decided to play as France for once. But man, I will, as a gamer, admit those are exceptional. +rep. U shuld try othr factions if u ever wanted - I bet youd be good.

[TMSKILZ]

personally to have dispute between Mods like SS versus DLV is silly, it's an open community for GOD sake, but I guess the dispute/feud @ hand is quite serious, but in the end & long run, Modders wanting to create new Mods & experiences get hurt & lastly the rest of us avg gamers who can't mod, we get hurt the worst b/c that's one less Mod to play & experience.

[Polycarpe]

Yes I've play, it is really good, love the RPG for the characters. As TMSKILZ saids, modders want to create new things, some people will dislike the DLV and vice-versa for SS, but first, I'm not a kid that wants only easy things, my work is to make some factions to reflect their period, and I'll wait for his answers, but If he doesn't want to give his permission, please, at least give me an answers. And finally, it's not of my business the fight btw the SS and DLV, I'm just a modder. Thank you

[TMSKILZ]

Byz Guard, what type of MOD are you creating? Just curious.

[Taiji]

Yes I've play, it is really good, love the RPG for the characters. As TMSKILZ saids, modders want to create new things, some people will dislike the DLV and vice-versa for SS, but first, I'm not a kid that wants only easy things, my work is to make some factions to reflect their period, and I'll wait for his answers, but If he doesn't want to give his permission, please, at least give me an answers. And finally, it's not of my business the fight btw the SS and DLV, I'm just a modder. Thank you

I think if you've tried PMing him then you've done all you sensibly can. If and when he wants to share the work with you and SS, then I'm sure he'll respond.

I think that as 'just a modder', you're nonetheless the only person who has to think about the implications of your work. If you're work makes 2 similar products less dissimilar then you're reducing the impact either mod can make when preceded by the other. Think about it. If SS had a totally different unit list to DLV then who would benefit? Everyone except people that don't like M2TW, it seems to me.

If you said 'just a careless modder' or 'just a selfish modder' then I have nothing to say, but 'just a modder' to me means you think you have no other effect. So I tried to explain the other effect of your plan to you. You might not agree, but it's an unavoidable reality on at least this level - if you're working on making SS more like DLV then you are making both mods less unique.

Anyway, PM him and hope for the best