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    Will there still be Armenian AOR units?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII View Post
    All Italian cities have 3 Millitia units.
    Axemen
    Javelinmen
    Crossbowmen.

    Thanks for the answer, so more or less the guys from the Lombard roster ? Or am I remembering things wrong.

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    We actually used Lombard roster as placeholder for these units. Lombards and Italian rebel cities plus Pope will have these guys in 1st place.

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    I believe at one point you said that one of the Armenian units would be a possible Islamic bodyguard, am i remembering this correctly?

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    Maybe it's just for I'm from Genoa, but those Xbowmen look very dangerous if used in the right way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnicleBill1 View Post
    I believe at one point you said that one of the Armenian units would be a possible Islamic bodyguard, am i remembering this correctly?
    No I said that Armenian units (Nobles/cataphract style warriors, border guards/heavy javelinmen and archers) will be available to everyone that will hold their areas.
    Quote Originally Posted by Diocle View Post
    Maybe it's just for I'm from Genoa, but those Xbowmen look very dangerous if used in the right way!
    Actually, crossbow was the only alternative Italian cities had.
    It requiers LESS training than any other kind of bow and allows the user better direct aim , espesialy when the user in on top of a wall.

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    Ah, alright. Thanks for clearing that up!

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    What do you think about power of 11th crossbow comparing to bows? What about crossbow powerstorke - I find somewhere that early Western crossbows had longer powerstoke than later, but I still don't know what does "longer" mean - 10 inches or 20 inches... Do you know estimated draw weight of 9-11th century bows? I know only that some of Viking bows were 90 lbs, and few also over 100 lbs. If you have got any info, please share with me.

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    What will be the recruitment situation for factions like the Romans when they conquer into Syria, or the Bulgarians? Just basic units based on culture or local troops based on previous rulers?

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    yes, mostly conscripts and low tier units. In some areas the nobility will be available (areas where the nobility is defined by land). but all this is wip
    The Great Conflicts 872-1071
    Incursio Pyrrhi - melts with Paeninsula Italica II

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    Thanks for the quick answer, it'll be interesting to see the final product

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII View Post
    Actually, crossbow was the only alternative Italian cities had.
    It requiers LESS training than any other kind of bow and allows the user better direct aim , espesialy when the user in on top of a wall.
    Consider that the Italian bowmen used longbows made of a very good wood (exported even in Britain .. ), infantry in any Langobard army was mainly composed by shielded longbowmen, all the Langobardic laws are very clear about this detail, and even the archaeological finds prove this peculiar characteristic of the Langobard warfare.

    Anyway you're right from behind the walls (and on ships) crossbow is a good weapon.

    VALE.

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    i remember seeing garrison document from the period in a osprey book from the 1100-1300 and crossbow was not 10% of the archers and they didint follow the rest of militias into battle but were kept on the wall at all time....i THINK that in italy the rise of the crossbow was in the 1400-1500 ,mays Diocle can clarify my statement

    the only people using crossbow on a big scale in early middle age(800-1200) that i know of was the gascons,wich we know by treaty of frankish kings eagerly hiring them
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    News:
    Finally i am very close to finish the next stage of units development. Health issues continue to bother me and my old mother and give me limited time for models.
    Any way..
    Lets give some answers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wareg View Post
    What do you think about power of 11th crossbow comparing to bows? What about crossbow powerstorke - I find somewhere that early Western crossbows had longer powerstoke than later, but I still don't know what does "longer" mean - 10 inches or 20 inches... Do you know estimated draw weight of 9-11th century bows? I know only that some of Viking bows were 90 lbs, and few also over 100 lbs. If you have got any info, please share with me.
    Crossbow is better in many aspects than an average bow.
    1st CB's bolt has almost straight balistic trajectory. That make CB easier to hundle when it comes to aiming.
    2nd Crossbow dows not require bothe hands inorder its string to maintain streched. Aka CB is restfull as weapon for its user.
    3rd The actuall bow of the CB adds a bit more launch power. That means better penetration in smaller distances or less penetration in bigger distances.
    There are bows though that have equal or better performance than CB but all require a life time commitment to train on them.
    Some times we are confussing CB with arbalest. While arbalest uses the same principals with CB the machine to strech both the main bow and its string adds more power on the bolt itself.
    In TGC time frame there were NO arbalests.
    Quote Originally Posted by BarnicleBill1 View Post
    What will be the recruitment situation for factions like the Romans when they conquer into Syria, or the Bulgarians? Just basic units based on culture or local troops based on previous rulers?
    Its too early to say but as _Tartaros_ mentioned all main rosters ingame will "contribute" low tier (peasantry level) and noble kind (local aristocracy) as AOR units as well.
    From the 1st day we pointed out the fact that local poppulations do not disapear in a day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Diocle View Post
    Consider that the Italian bowmen used longbows made of a very good wood (exported even in Britain .. ), infantry in any Langobard army was mainly composed by shielded longbowmen, all the Langobardic laws are very clear about this detail, and even the archaeological finds prove this peculiar characteristic of the Langobard warfare.

    Anyway you're right from behind the walls (and on ships) crossbow is a good weapon.

    VALE.
    Lombards had famous archers close in concept with those Longbowmen we know as English.
    As FliegerAD, Absinthia and Matthaeus brought in our attention after their researches, bows in the shape of "longbows" were used in the germanic people long ago.
    The fact though was that they were rare and most warriors though that it was not honorable to fight as archer.
    Lombards have "longbow" archers in TGC but they have almost 0 melee abillity!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragimund Von Wallat View Post
    i remember seeing garrison document from the period in a osprey book from the 1100-1300 and crossbow was not 10% of the archers and they didint follow the rest of militias into battle but were kept on the wall at all time....i THINK that in italy the rise of the crossbow was in the 1400-1500 ,mays Diocle can clarify my statement

    the only people using crossbow on a big scale in early middle age(800-1200) that i know of was the gascons,wich we know by treaty of frankish kings eagerly hiring them
    Actually crossbow in Italy was imported by Arabs! You see the crossbow was not unknown to everyone but they had CBs based on diferent evolutionary lines.
    Arabs found out crossbow via Sassanids that knew it via the trade roads with China.
    Romans (the ones many still call Byzantines) knew CB as revolutionary model of cheiroballista.
    German tribes saw CB when they invaded England where Gualish trinbes there used their own models of that weapon.

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    What are these next units? Also, u hope the health issues troubling you and your mother desist. Nothing is enjoyable when its clouded by pain or discomfort.

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    Truth is that i am in a kind of "bad shape" for a year now..But i am still trying...
    Anyway...
    The step that is amost done is the re-creation of the Roman thematic units
    The next one will be the finall completion of the Islamic units.
    The 3rd step will be the finall completion of Great Moravian units.
    The 4th will be the completion of a Serbian basic roster of 10 units.
    The 5th stage will be the compeltion of AOR units.

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    I hope your health get better, and i wish same for your mother!
    Can u tell us what kind of units are planed for Serbian roster ?

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