The First Man in Rome.

[Nistenf]

Well, I read about it in some thread here (the one about the seleucids), and it catched my attention.
Is it a new FRRE mod? What time period will it cover? Will it be centered on someone?
Just made a search on this forum, and found a thread with some information about it, but it's like 4 years old, so maybe something changed.

And, of course, I really like your other mods. My favourite is 58bc (The one I played the most), I just love Gallic Wars.

[bucellarii]

The Marius-Sulla Campaign (The First Man In Man) will cover the events from Marius' assumption of consular command during the Bellum Iugurthinum (107 BCE), via the Bellum Cimbricum, the Bellum Marsicum and the Bellum Mithridaticum down to and including the bloody civil war between the Mariani and the Sullani. These events will be heavily scripted in the same way as the 77 and 58 BC campaigns.

However we also intend releasing an all-faction Mod starting in 107 BCE for those players who enjoy exploring alternative scenarios.

[Nistenf]

Thanks for the quick answer.

I really liked the missions and scripting in 58bc, so I'm sure I'll like this one too! Thanks for all the work.

[Salvor Hardin]

Perhaps I should preview the new map, one of these days...

[Nistenf]

Jojo, that would be great

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

How is progress on said First Man in Rome?

[Salvor Hardin]

The map is almost ready, pending on adding part of the resources (both trade and hidden ones). We have already created some new units. But the difficult part (scripting) has not started yet.

I think that this summarizes the situation.

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

Ah. Thank you.

[stormer]

Does it use BI or RTW?

[Salvor Hardin]

BI: we need the horde feature for kind people like the Cimbri and Teutones.

[Mont]

Can we expect a release soon, been waiting along time for this one.

[Salvor Hardin]

I will make an update/preview thread one of these days.

I just can advance that the release date is more likely to be in September than in July. The reason is that I still have around a 100 units to add to the mod and I can do at best 4 per day, as we are changing almost every unit in the mod. And I am doing them all.

After that, I have to place everything in the map and add the recruitment lines for all the factions.

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

Well, take your time. All that matters is the final product.

[Salvor Hardin]

I wish I coud go faster. But I only have 2 hours a day to devote to the mod and I must do everything.

Hence why I seldom can make previews.

[Dionisy]

Salvor, are Mariy and Sulla will be separate fractions like familyes in vanilla RTW?

[Salvor Hardin]

The plan is:

- A first release as an open mod with all the factions playable, like 77BC. There will be a Roman faction but it will not be as heavily scripted as 77BC. This means that there will be no missions but you will have to face the threats that the Roman Republic had in that period: Jugurthine War, Cimbri and Teutones invasion, Social War and Mithradatic War. Plus some kind of Civil War amongst Roman factions. This will help us fine-tune the following campaigns and detect possible bugs and CTDs

- Marius campaign: scripted in missions like 58BC: Caesar Imperator. Starting with the Jugurthine War and ending in the Civil War against Sulla.

- Sulla campaign: probably starting with Sulla engaged in the Mithridatic War and, if succeeding, having to go back to Rome and regain control against the Marians.

All this in a new campaign map with brand new units.

[Dionisy]

Thenks for replay, Salvor. All sounds thery interesting! Anouver question - during Jugurtian war Rome can recruit hastati, principies etc, or only new legioneres?

[bucellarii]

As posted in another thread:

FMIR opens in the Spring of 107 during the Bellum Iugurthinum

For your information the last recorded instance of the employment of the maniple as a tactical unit is by Sallust at 49.6, when describing Metellus' order of march during the campaign of 109. Similarly we hear of velites for the last time at 49.7, notwitstanding the probably anachronistic reference to velites being deployed at Orchomenos in 86 (Frontinus Stratagems 2.3.17).

Of course cohorts were deployed occasionally as tactical units in the legion before Marius' military reforms, with some commentators arguing that the cohort developed in part because of the requirement for additional tactical flexibility during the Spanish wars of the second century. Most commentators seem to agree that the cohort most likely became the standard tactical unit during the period 104-102, with the uniformity of armament in the legion (i.e. legionaries now increasingly being equipped by the state at public expense; for precedent see Polybius 6.39.15) one possible bye-product of the enrolment of the capite censi (an innovation that was not unique and whose impact should not be over-estimated. It is certainly useful to bear in mind the hostility of the ancient sources, i.e. Plutarch Marius 9)

Marius inherited Metellus' two legions and the equivalent socii alae, with the majority of these troops having been in Africa for four years. It is therefore likely that the army was well below 'paper strength'.

Following his election to the consulship, probably in November 108, Marius was authorised to raise a supplementum and of course it was this force which controversially included proletarii volunteers, as well as a number of evocati (time-served veterans); Sallust 84.2-3 and 86.4, Plutarch Marius 9.

Brunt (Italian Manpower) estimates that Marius may have enlisted up to 5,000 new legionaries; the famous enrolment of proletarian vonunteers was undoubtedly on quite a small scale

Owing to limitations with both the game engine and available dmb space we decided not to include velites, hastati, principes and triarii. You can make your own mind up whether we have taken a liberty too far with history

[Empedocles]

Salvor, please take your time. you are doing more than is human possible.

regards

[Devean85]

Hello to all. I congratulate you again on the mods, a few excellent works, my admiration for the creators, collaborators... I would like knowing the the first man in rome evolutions and if you can give some date of ending, to be able to unload it and play. Forgive the inconveniences. A greeting to all.