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    Can anyone list which factions were aligned with each other in 1700?
    I know they wont have everything historical, but it might be nice to know who i may end up allied with at the start

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    US-France, Britain and Prussia had an alliance against the French, Austrians, and Russians.

    Thats all I kno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    US-France, Britain and Prussia had an alliance against the French, Austrians, and Russians.

    Thats all I kno.
    The U.S. and France were allied in 1700?

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    Those are mid-game alliances during the Seven Years War. In 1700, France and Spain will be allied; Britain, Austria, and The United Provinces will be allied; Denmark-Norway, Poland-Lithuania, and Russia will be allied. These are the historical alliances for the War of the Spanish Succession and the Great Northern War, but I am not sure how closely the game will mirror them. The only sure alliance I am aware of is Britain and The United Provinces, since they share a leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Man_2423 View Post
    The U.S. and France were allied in 1700?
    Yep during the American Revolution, France is argueably credited with being the reason the US won that war, and had they not been allied there would be no US atm.

    However the following years afterward after some really complicated political stuff and the fact the US refused to join the following English-Franco war on the French side among other reasons deteriated the relationship.

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    the question hes asking is that why would the US and Frnace be allied since the US aren't alive at the start of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    Yep during the American Revolution, France is argueably credited with being the reason the US won that war, and had they not been allied there would be no US atm.

    However the following years afterward after some really complicated political stuff and the fact the US refused to join the following English-Franco war on the French side among other reasons deteriated the relationship.
    That's in 1777, not 1700.

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    Ottoman Empires
    -The Barbary States Tunis, Tripoli and Algeria(protector, i saw faction flag in etw files), (since 16th century/Barbaros Hayreddin Pasa)
    -Crimean Khanate (protector, i saw faction flag in etw files)
    -Morocco (auspices since 1578) (i saw faction flag in etw files)
    -Afghanistan (i saw faction flag in etw files)(Always brother )
    -Khanate of Khiva (i saw faction flag in etw files http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=222100) and another Turkestan Khanates
    -Chechnya (i saw faction flag in etw files)(Always brother )
    -Sweden(right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1710%E2%80%931711)
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    -Bangladesh(for Caliphate)
    -Singapore (for Caliphate) 1819 lol etw period 1700-1820
    -Malaysia(for Caliphate)
    -Indonesia (for Caliphate)
    -Nijerya(for Caliphate), Cameroon(for Caliphate) and another African factions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    Yep during the American Revolution, France is argueably credited with being the reason the US won that war, and had they not been allied there would be no US atm.
    It would be an etremely hollow argument to say that France was THE reason the colonists won the war. They were difiniatly ONE reason, but people who make that argument tend to say France won the war for the colonists.

    In fact they did help, but it is possible there would still be a United States today without France's involvment. While it is impossible that the US would exist without the efforts put forth by the colonists.

    Basicly France did not win the war, the US won the war with France's help.

    That being said I for one am extremely grateful for that help


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    I would say there is another question to answer before France and U.S. allied. It is does the British win the French & Indian war & then do they loose thier possetions in Canada. Because in history this happened 65 years into the game. Without it there is no situation for an alliance, and plainly stated the French only helped the 13 to stick it to the British. Alliances changed wildly in europe during this time.

    Alliances in America at 1700; French-"Huron" Confederacy, Historically (but I dont know if they are going to) the Brits-Iroquois.

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    Well right on 1701 we had the War of Spanish Sucession which involed the nations of

    Holy Roman Empire
    Austria
    Duchy of Savoy
    Great Britain
    Dutch Republic
    Prussia
    Kingdom of Portugal

    Against

    Kingdom of France
    Kingdom of Spain
    Electorate of Bavaria

    That sorta gives you a rough idea. But then again some of these nations fought together without being allies or sometimes friends. This mainly to do with the so called balance of power the first alliance wanted to keep.

    Though the Alliances kept changing constantly during the 18th century really. But one thing is for sure Britain and France wont be friends.

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    Hm the dutch and the English I guess, since our Willem was on the English throne at that time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam View Post
    Sweden and Turkey had diplomatic contacts and a common enemy in Russia. However I am not sure if Sweden and Turkey 1710 had agreed to something that can be called an alliance.

    An alliance is a treaty between two or more participants and each alliance is in fact unique. The conditions in a treaty of alliance can look quite different to another treaty of alliance, it all depends on the negotiations preceding it.

    In 1700 Sweden, Dutch Republic and England had agreed to support each other with troops in case of war.

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    Great Northean War - 1700
    Saxony 1700-1706 1714-1721
    Russia 1700-1721
    Danmark 1700-1700 1714-1721
    PLC 1701-1721
    Courland 1700-1721 (but since 1701 they were under Swedish ocupation)

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    Ottomans as far as I know were pretty close to French in the early period...and did have an alliance even earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogukan View Post
    Ottomans as far as I know were pretty close to French in the early period...and did have an alliance even earlier.
    True, they had an common enemy - the Habsburgs.
    France supported the Ottomans with large amounts of money for their (failed) conquest of Vienna 1683

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