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  • Parlamental Democracy (Prime Minister has the power)

    45 32.85%
  • Presidental Democracy (President has the power)

    48 35.04%
  • Constitutional Monarchy

    26 18.98%
  • Absolutistic Monarchy

    0 0%
  • Socialistic State

    1 0.73%
  • Dictatorship

    2 1.46%
  • Military Goverment

    0 0%
  • Anarchy

    1 0.73%
  • Bundes Republic

    4 2.92%
  • Theocracy

    1 0.73%
  • Oligarchy

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Thread: Type of government in your country.

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    Also, try explaining your government, their pros and cons...
    And also are you happy with it, and what changes you would make...
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    Constitutional Monarchy, Japan.

    Constituation made by Americans after WWII (we hate its guts), basicly we cant go to war, cant have an army, cant make nukes, and have to rely on American mercinaries to protect our countries from North Korea and etc. The constitution is also pretty much the same as America but we cant have guns. Everyone is considered mature and given full rights and privledges at the age of 20.

    We are pretty happy with the monarchy bit. We get to keep our dear emperour and he's treated like the Pope here. (God rest his soul)

    However, the actual government is quite corrupt. Everyone is wasting tax dollars on building massive hotels in the middle of nowhere, and making airports that only deficits come to. Also the idiots in diet, goes to Iraq against the wishes of 80% of the population, doesnt admit their crimes in Nanking, and cant stand up to China.

    On the idiots.

    The Diet makes Japanese laws (and basicly does nothing sucking up pay). THere are two houses. The House of Representitives has 511 members (too many god-bleep mosquitoes, there should be half the number). They are elected to four year terms from electoral districts. The house of Councillors has 252 members. 100 are elected from the country and 152 from individual prefectures.

    The prime minister (ie. backboneless idiot who has weird hair and go worship war criminals, yet cant stand up to Chinese when they are taking the senkakus, while not settling the problem with Korea), is elected by the money sucking ticks from its members. He appoints the member of the cabinet (comprised of ecological secretaries of states that are increasing carbon dioxide while they were supposed to be reducing it).

    Political "parties"

    The most successful is the Liberal Democratic Party (that are surprisingly conservative). They have held the majority of the diet for the past several decades and has tyranny over the country since the war. They are supported by a party made complelely from cultists. There are also several other parties that dont do anything cause they never won an election.

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    Parlemental constitutional monarchy (Belgium), although the 'king' has no political powers :huh Basically, it's a parlemental democracy, with 5 main parties: the extreme lefties, the socialists, the liberals, the conservatives and the extreme righties. The Prime Minister is, as usual, elected from the party who won the elections.

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    the irish government is a coalition of the fine fail party and the progressive democrates. it is sitting its second term despite an ailing heath system and hugh inflation rates. however they do look set to win the next election.
    led by bertie ahern(ff), they have not done a bad job imo contrary to the media biast against them. this is mainly due to the irish peoples attidude of theyre damed if they do and damed if they dont.

    some notable achievements in their term is the creation of a much needed public transport system in dublin -the luas tram system, the building of a hughe ring road around dublin and upgrading of its roads, the celtic tiger booming economy, one of the biggest malls in europe recently opened down the road from me, the smoking ban (however contraversial), the reduction in both the number of smokers( huge tax hikes and an advertising campaign) , the building of housing on a massive scale, decetrilisation of goverment

    some awful achievements
    the third world health system, the huge inflation rates, high insurance rates, high house prices, the ailing school system , still waiting for the decentrilization, the prison systems overcrowding and ancient building (soon to be fixed), the amazing disappering bertie bowl resulting in an ireland still in want of a 2nd national stadium, mary harneys arse :sick

    oposition is mainly fine gael, labour, sinn fein (outsiders/loners in goverment although it has a growing popularity with people in dublin), and other independents

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    Presidential Democracy, United States. We have the Electoral College, the most complicated election system in the world. (and I wouldn't have it any other way lolz)

    Deathdoom- what do you mean the party is made up of cultists? Do you mean they're just inflexible in ideology, or are they actually in a cult? Cause that would be kinda cool lol.

    Constituation made by Americans after WWII (we hate its guts), basicly we cant go to war, cant have an army, cant make nukes, and have to rely on American mercinaries to protect our countries from North Korea and etc.
    I agree it should go. Times have changed, and Japan is a different place than it was 50 years ago.

    we cant have guns.
    How do you survive?!?!? I couldn't imagine not having equil firepower to criminals. Are your police as clueless as ours?

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    this is mainly due to the irish peoples attidude of theyre damed if they do and damed if they dont.
    It's the human condition. No one is EVER happy with their government. *tongue*

    I hear Ireland's economy is booming though, and it's the fastest growing in Europe. And some of the lowest taxes.

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    Originally posted by Augustine@Apr 4 2005, 01:34 PM
    Presidential Democracy, United States. We have the Electoral College, the most complicated election system in the world. (and I wouldn't have it any other way lolz)

    Deathdoom- what do you mean the party is made up of cultists? Do you mean they're just inflexible in ideology, or are they actually in a cult? Cause that would be kinda cool lol.



    I agree it should go. Times have changed, and Japan is a different place than it was 50 years ago.



    How do you survive?!?!? I couldn't imagine not having equil firepower to criminals. Are your police as clueless as ours?
    First off the Koumei tou, is a political clan made completely of people who belive in one philosophy (I dont know to translate it), so we call them cultists, because they practicly worship the ideology.

    Well Okinawa is an important stronghold for America so I dont think that they are going to give it up. Besides our government welcomes them and pays them huge amounts of money.

    I mean that you cant have guns, only the police and the "self defence force" (that has state of the art weaponary and a quarter of a million soldiers, oops I mean members) have guns and they are only allowed to use them in the strictest form of self defence. Whenever, a policman shoots a gun it gets on the front line news.

    However, we are a very peaceful nation, and bank robberies, murder, and kidnappings are generally repeatdly reported on the national news. Very few crimes, but thats changing (why? well Koreans, CHinese, Russians, are establishing mafia clans here and then there are also the various CHinese people who come to Japan, kill an entire family for money, then go happily to jail because they dont have to work for money anymore).

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    I mean that you cant have guns, only the police and the "self defence force" (that has state of the art weaponary and a quarter of a million soldiers, oops I mean members) have guns and they are only allowed to use them in the strictest form of self defence. Whenever, a policman shoots a gun it gets on the front line news.
    I saw something on CNN about two of your police officers running the other way when a motorist or someone angry ran after them.... that was quite odd... how do your police officers manage?
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    Originally posted by deathdoom56+Apr 4 2005, 07:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td> (deathdoom56 @ Apr 4 2005, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Augustine@Apr 4 2005, 01:34 PM
    Presidential Democracy, United States. We have the Electoral College, the most complicated election system in the world. (and I wouldn&#39;t have it any other way lolz)

    Deathdoom- what do you mean the party is made up of cultists? Do you mean they&#39;re just inflexible in ideology, or are they actually in a cult? Cause that would be kinda cool lol.



    I agree it should go. Times have changed, and Japan is a different place than it was 50 years ago.



    How do you survive?&#33;?&#33;? I couldn&#39;t imagine not having equil firepower to criminals. Are your police as clueless as ours?
    First off the Koumei tou, is a political clan made completely of people who belive in one philosophy (I dont know to translate it), so we call them cultists, because they practicly worship the ideology.

    Well Okinawa is an important stronghold for America so I dont think that they are going to give it up. Besides our government welcomes them and pays them huge amounts of money.

    I mean that you cant have guns, only the police and the "self defence force" (that has state of the art weaponary and a quarter of a million soldiers, oops I mean members) have guns and they are only allowed to use them in the strictest form of self defence. Whenever, a policman shoots a gun it gets on the front line news.

    However, we are a very peaceful nation, and bank robberies, murder, and kidnappings are generally repeatdly reported on the national news. Very few crimes, but thats changing (why? well Koreans, CHinese, Russians, are establishing mafia clans here and then there are also the various CHinese people who come to Japan, kill an entire family for money, then go happily to jail because they dont have to work for money anymore). [/b][/quote]
    But how come you have so many suicides?
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    Originally posted by Hamelkart+Apr 4 2005, 01:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td> (Hamelkart &#064; Apr 4 2005, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
    Originally posted by deathdoom56@Apr 4 2005, 07:45 PM
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    @Apr 4 2005, 01:34 PM
    Presidential Democracy, United States. We have the Electoral College, the most complicated election system in the world. (and I wouldn&#39;t have it any other way lolz)

    Deathdoom- what do you mean the party is made up of cultists? Do you mean they&#39;re just inflexible in ideology, or are they actually in a cult? Cause that would be kinda cool lol.



    I agree it should go. Times have changed, and Japan is a different place than it was 50 years ago.



    How do you survive?&#33;?&#33;? I couldn&#39;t imagine not having equil firepower to criminals. Are your police as clueless as ours?

    First off the Koumei tou, is a political clan made completely of people who belive in one philosophy (I dont know to translate it), so we call them cultists, because they practicly worship the ideology.

    Well Okinawa is an important stronghold for America so I dont think that they are going to give it up. Besides our government welcomes them and pays them huge amounts of money.

    I mean that you cant have guns, only the police and the "self defence force" (that has state of the art weaponary and a quarter of a million soldiers, oops I mean members) have guns and they are only allowed to use them in the strictest form of self defence. Whenever, a policman shoots a gun it gets on the front line news.

    However, we are a very peaceful nation, and bank robberies, murder, and kidnappings are generally repeatdly reported on the national news. Very few crimes, but thats changing (why? well Koreans, CHinese, Russians, are establishing mafia clans here and then there are also the various CHinese people who come to Japan, kill an entire family for money, then go happily to jail because they dont have to work for money anymore).
    But how come you have so many suicides? [/b][/quote]
    Oh, they got fired. Our economy is diffrent in the way that we are like samurai and work for one company throughout our lives and get paid more as we serve the company longer. During the good ages, we could choose which company to work for from a list, but now anyone that doesnt work several hours overtime every day can get fired.

    Oh and on those cowards that called themselves police, well normally we dont get many murderers. And even then they rarely go up against the police. The guy was apparently doing drugs or drunk or something and charged at the policemen and the frightened idiots ran. The prime minister (idiot that thinks he looks like Richard Geers) himself was angered at the police

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    As with Mordhak, Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland). The Queen is the head of state and deals with state affairs, while the Prime Minister (technically) acts on behalf of the queen and heads the cabinet.

    The upper house of parliament is the House of Lords, which is made up of a number of Bishops (the seat goes with the Bishopric, not the Bishop) and the Peers (Lords) of the realm. The House of Lords also forms the &#39;highest court in the land&#39; (lead by the Law Lords - Lords from the judiciary) as it were (and all Lords have a right to be tried by their &#39;Peers&#39; in the House of Lords). The Lords have the ability to return a bill to the Commons with suggested revisions.

    The House of Commons is the lower house, consisting of the elected representatives of the people. The house is split into two benches, the government benches on one side, the opposition benches on the other. The Commons are expected to debate government policy and private member&#39;s bills (law proposed by an MP outside of the government) and to vote on any bills put before them.

    Every five years (at the most) a General Election must be called, in which voters from the 650 or so constituencies across the country are required to vote for the candidate to represent them in the new parliament (though many people now simply vote for the preferred party of government, rather than their preferred representative).

    If a party takes an overall majority of the seats in the Commons, it forms a government. Traditionally, the party leader takes on the role of Prime Minister (though this must be confirmed by the Queen) and then appoints MPs to fill around 80-100 ministerial posts (the current number escapes me). The largest party on the oppostion benches then forms what is often considered as the official opposition, with the shadow cabinet (spokesmen appointed to comment on a particular part of government policy for the opposition) and leader of the opposition effectively having equal speaking rights with the real cabinet and PM when it comes to speaking in debates.

    The Primary political parties at play are currently New Labour (a party who span from solidly socialist to centre right - but with prominence to the more right wing policies), the Conservative Party (drifting further to the right) and the Liberal Democrats (a party floating around from centre left to centre right). The current party of government are New Labour, with the Conservatives forming the largest opposition party (having had 18 years of government before they were ousted by Labour 8 years ago) and the Lib Dems making up around half of the remaing opposition MPs. Other key parties include the Northern Irish Unionists (Republican Sin Fein members refuse to swear allegiance to the Queen, so do not take up their seats), the Scottish and Welsh nationalists, the Greens and a scattering of independent candidates.

    The current New Labour government have now held power for 8 years, but it is only in the last few years that many of their more left wing policies have come to fruition. Prior to that, the main thrust of their policy has been economic reform (from our &#39;prudent&#39; chancellor). However, the recent increase in public spending (combined with the economic effect of the Iraq war) has meant that the budget is now supported by a significant amount of government borrowing.

    Were I in a position to do so, I would almost certainly try to make serious cut backs to the influence of party politics in Westminster, with the idea of guiding Parliament back to a more flexible structure of government and debate, similar to that which existed up until the late 1800s. One issue that needs to be dealt with at some point is the appointed house of lords (the hereditary peerages - passed on upon the death of a peer to the legal heir - are being replaced by solely appointed peers i.e. those who have recieved a peerage as a reward from the honours list), which makes the composition of the upper house far too manipulable by the establishment. The exact way to replace them is another matter, I currently favour the idea of making the Lords an electoral college, so that they choose and appoint new peers themselves, breaking the direct link with the honours list.
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    Err .. where is &#39;Republic&#39; on this list? Because the US isn&#39;t technically a Presidential Democracy, it is technically a Republic. And I don&#39;t think it&#39;s Bundes Republic ... :getlost

    Thinking about the phrase, a Presidential Democracy would be something like the President presents laws or something directly to the people, who directly vote yes or no ... that would be combining an actual Democracy with having a President ...

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    Parliamentary democracy.

    No electoral college. Not really sure what our system could be called but I believe it is what is considered "normal" in terms of elections.

    We elect members ot the parliament and president appoints prime minister (who most likely is the head of party which got most seats in elections) and after that prime minister gathers the... Erm... Goverment? I honestly have no idea what is proper translation of hallitus.

    Generally we have 3 major parties, they can be easily called left, middle and right and since they often tend to act like one another even that is too great distinction between them. In all honestly, only difference between big parties is that one is in opposition and 2 others are not. And then there are small parties like christianist democrats, swedish speaking party, green, left (even more to the left than social democrats who are one of the big three) and so on.

    And they all are there to live nice life. Spineless little weasels.


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    other: Dictatorship disguised as Presidential Democracy, thank&#39;s to fuc*ing chavez.... (Venezuela) and his boyfriend Fidel Castro

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    Athens was a democracy, the USA is a Republic.
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    Originally posted by SovietDoom@Apr 4 2005, 02:36 PM
    Athens was a democracy, the USA is a Republic.
    Exactly my point. A true democracy is not really possible except in very, very small countries because populations are so big now. Who would organize direct voting for 293 million people?

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    Originally posted by Justinian@Apr 4 2005, 02:38 PM
    Exactly my point. A true democracy is not really possible except in very, very small countries because populations are so big now. Who would organize direct voting for 293 million people?
    with the information age, it&#39;s becoming increasingly possible. It used to be that because of physical distances, it&#39;s impractical to do a mass election. But now, when you can do secure online transactions, or even over a phone system, it&#39;s possible to do one if we really really wanted it to happen. :w00t

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    EDIT: Since what I was talking about was off-topic and I don&#39;t want to hijack this topic, I&#39;m going to start a new one, since I think the subject is interesting. Thank you&#33;

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    Presidential Democracy (USA &#39;nuff said)

    Pros: balance of power keeps everyone in line. Contrary to popular beleif Bush cant do whatever he wants.

    Cons: Power is so balanced and evenly divided (currently) that it takes forever to pass anything. In fact it usually takes a war to get both sides to agree on something.

    This is a cool thread. Next year I&#39;m taking comparative government where we learn not only US govn&#39;t but the govn&#39;ts around the world. Its gone be fun&#33;
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    Good old checks and balances, which are NOT in the British Parliamentary system.
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