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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    Obodriti

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    Věleti

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    Moravaně

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    Česi

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    Quote Originally Posted by polak966 View Post
    Česi
    And where are sloviens?

    Moravians with sloviens together build Moravian Empire
    Sloviens had prospeurous Principality of Nitra in 7th century

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    This is just a list of the factions in the actual mod

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    Česi (Češi in Czech) it isn´t corrent
    Sg. Čech Pl. Češi = citizens of the Czech republic
    Sg. Čech Pl Čechvé = Czech tribe

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    there are Czech tribe´s land from 8th to 11th. century (Čechové lived only around Prag (Praha)
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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    the faction will be the cechove as u have spealt it, at it is supposed to refer only to the tribe living around prague.

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    And where is other Western and Easten Slavs???
    Vistulans, Polabians, Polans, Mazovians, Kashubs - and a lot of others Western Slavs, which lived in the territory of Poland and Belarus.
    Of course, if your map displays only these territories...




    Вот и выходит, что основная битва происходит далеко не на ристалище, а скорее в наших с вами сердцах - в священных вместилищах Души.
    Победите свои скверные желания, грязные мысли - и любая победа над осязаемым врагом покажется "детским лепетом на лужайке", потому внутренний подвиг это как раз и есть тренировка Духа.
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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    i know there were many other tribes, these were just the ones that are mod had intended to include. however our aims had been scaled down so now these wont be out in the first release anyway

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    what about sorbs? (serbs) from the white serbia
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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    we didn't consider them as a faction because they were never united, even to the lose degree that the obodrite and veleti confederations existed. Perhaps a single tribe to represent them but that would have to go under discussion.

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    not true. their history is not well know, not many sources. here's one fact, their prince (knez, knjaz) was Dervan. by chronicles of fredegar, Dervan separated his state from frankish empire, and with king Samo (ruler of slavs) he fought against franks.
    in 9th century, they had their own king! by the annals of St-Bertin


    lands of slavs (sorbs are listed as srbi (on serbian))
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    They may have had their leaders but the different Sorbian tribes were nort united in any sort of state. the concept of a king was unknown to the early slavs, the title knez itself having various meanings from chief to lord to prince to duke.Dervan could have been a chieftain of a specific tribe, but nothing united them into a single political body. and yes they did go on campaigns together against the Germans but these were only temporary bonds of fealty, and eventually the failure to solidify into a state like Bohemia or Poland is what caused the Sorbs to be conquered and colonized by the Germans.

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    i would help on models and skins if you include them. your chice
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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    Quote Originally Posted by polak966 View Post
    They may have had their leaders but the different Sorbian tribes were nort united in any sort of state. the concept of a king was unknown to the early slavs, the title knez itself having various meanings from chief to lord to prince to duke.Dervan could have been a chieftain of a specific tribe, but nothing united them into a single political body. and yes they did go on campaigns together against the Germans but these were only temporary bonds of fealty, and eventually the failure to solidify into a state like Bohemia or Poland is what caused the Sorbs to be conquered and colonized by the Germans.
    and one more thing, this mod starts in late VIII century. most of the tribes you've mentioned were just in same situation as Sorbs. Bohemia and Moravian state exist from IX century.
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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    why not White Croats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrobatos View Post
    why not White Croats?
    hh, here we go hrobatos

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    Default Re: Rodina i Plemę - The Slavs of WotN

    @ pheonix, yes you are correct in that, what I had planned for those factions was not to actually have them as bohemia or moravia, but to simply represent the tribes that founded those states. so you don't actually begin playing as great moravia, you simply control the moravian tribe, and it would be your goal to recreate the moravian empire later in the game. and yes if you would like to help make models that would be great. in fact how would you feel with generally heling with the slavic roster? i can't imagine there being much variation for Sorbian units, unless you have some detailed sourced i don't know about. perhaps send me a PM about this.

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