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[Horsa]

If you have any questions or suggestions regarding WotN, please post them here.

[Kjertesvein]

If you need spesific Historic info about Skandi-Norway regarding:

• Normal clothing
• Amour clothing, weapom and fighting
• History
• Food
• Tools & equipment

...Let me know.

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Medieval Units

A potential unit list for the Danes. Not really finished, and a mix of swedish, norwegian, icelandic and danish sources have been used for it.

The Danish (Scandinavian) army consists of a lot of solid infantry with missile infantry mixed in, but is weak in cavalry before the high medieval period, when some elements of it may fight mounted.


5) MILITARY UNITS:
Name of military unit: Ting-Hlídmennr
Description of military unit: Royal retainer, early period (1052-1150). The guard infantry of the Danish kings and greater nobles, comparable to the Anglo-Saxon Huscarls.
Unit Type: MEDIUM TO HEAVY INFANTRY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 6
Defence: 8
Charge: Medium
Armour: “Norman” helmet, with the occasional aventail, Padded Vápentreiyu, Maille Hauberk, the occasional lamellar on top of the maille. Some leg and arm splint defenses.
Melee Weapons: Swords, Axes, Two-Handed Axes
Missile Weapons: None
Defensive Panoply: Kite shields, the occasional poached-egg shield
Speed: Slow
Morale: Excellent
Discipline: Excellent
Notable abilities: Can form wedge, can form shieldwall

Name of military unit: Gestír (early and late period)
Description of military unit: Light professional infantry of the retinue, used for police duties in peacetime. Commoners.
Unit Type: LIGHT INFANTRY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 5
Defence: 7
Charge: Medium
Armour: Helmets and, Padded Vápntreiyu, the occasional maille.
Melee Weapons: Axes/Swords
Missile Weapons: Bows
Defensive Panoply: Round or kite shields
Speed: Fast infantry
Morale: Excellent
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities: Can form shieldwall


Name of military unit: Leiðangsmennr (early period)
Description of military unit: The ship-levy of the norse, primarily called out for the defense of the kingdom
Unit Type: LIGHT INFANTRY SPEARMEN
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 4
Defence: 7
Charge: Medium
Armour: None, the occasional “Norman” helmet AND maille to represent a rich farmer
Melee Weapons: Spears + axe or sword
Missile Weapons: None or bows (or separate unit)
Defensive Panoply: Large round shield, the occasional kite shield or poached egg shield
Speed: Fast infantry
Morale: Weak to average
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities: Can form shieldwall, can form “phalanx”


Name of military unit: Leiðangsbogimennr (early period)
Description of military unit: One-half of the Leiðang was required to bring bows to war.
Unit Type: LIGHT INFANTRY ARCHERS
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 3
Defence: 6
Charge: Weak
Armour: None, the occasional “Norman” helmet AND maille to represent a rich farmer
Melee Weapons: sword or axe
Missile Weapons: war bow
Defensive Panoply: Large round shield, the occasional kite shield or poached egg shield
Speed: Fast infantry
Morale: Weak to average
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities: Can form shieldwall, can fire flaming ammo

Name of military unit: Skutilsveinr (high period)
Description of military unit: Scandinavian knights and king’s top hirdmenn who often fought on foot
Unit Type: HEAVY CAVALRY can dismount to HEAVY INFANTRY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 8 on horse, 7 on foot
Defence: 7 on horse, 8 on foot
Charge: Strong on horse, Medium on foot
Armour: Padded Vápentreiyu, Padded Brýnbrok (chausses), Maille hauberk with mittens, maille leggings, helmet (either chape-de-férs, cervellieres or great helmets) with maille coif underneath, Pláta (coat-of-plates), some of them under the maille. Some Pannzara outer textile armours. The horses are also covered with padded armour and/or maille – the typical high medieval knight.
Melee Weapons: Lances, swords/axes/maces
Missile Weapons: Crossbows
Defensive Panoply: Heater shields
Speed: Normal cavalry, slow infantry
Morale: Excellent
Discipline: Excellent
Notable abilities: Can form wedges, can form shieldwall (on foot)

Name of military unit: Hirdmennr (high period)
Description of military unit: The rank-and file men-at-arms of the king, the main body of his retainers.
Unit Type: HEAVY INFANTRY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 6
Defence: 8
Charge: Medium
Armour: Padded Vápentreyiu, Maille or Pannzara, Chapel-de-fer (Stálhufvu) helmet
Melee Weapons: Spears, swords/axes/maces
Missile Weapons: Bows or Crossbows
Defensive Panoply: Large infantry heater shields
Speed: Normal infantry
Morale: Good
Discipline: Good
Notable abilities: Can form shieldwall, can form “phalanx”

Name of military unit: Leiðangsmennr (high period)
Description of military unit: Richer men of the later Leiðang. Better equipped, some may be mercenaries
Unit Type: MEDIUM INFANTRY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 5
Defence: 8
Charge: Medium
Armour: Stálhufvu helmet, vapentreiyu, maille hauberk, the occasional pannzara.
Melee Weapons: Spears or other polearms, swords/axes/maces
Missile Weapons: None
Defensive Panoply: Large infantry heater shields
Speed: Normal infantry
Morale: Normal
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities: Can form shieldwall, can form “phalanx”

Name of military unit: Leiðangsbogimennr (high period)
Description of military unit: The later archers of the leidang
Unit Type: MEDIUM INFANTRY ARCHERS
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 4
Defence: 6
Charge: weak
Armour: Vápentreiyu, stálhufvu, the occasional maille or pannzara
Melee Weapons: swords/axes/maces
Missile Weapons: Bows
Defensive Panoply: bucklers
Speed: Normal infantry
Morale: Normal
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities: Can form shieldwall

Name of military unit: Riddere (late)
Description of military unit: late medieval knights of the emerging professional army
Unit Type: SUPER-HEAVY CAVALRY can dismount to SUPER_HEAVY INFANTRY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 9 mounted 8 dismounted
Defence: 8 mounted 9 dismounted
Charge: Strong
Armour: Full plate mail in the german style
Melee Weapons: Lances, longswords/axes/warhammers/maces/poleaxes
Missile Weapons: None
Defensive Panoply: Small shields or none
Speed: Slow
Morale: Excellent
Discipline: Excellent
Notable abilities: Can form wedge


Name of military unit: Knægter (late)
Description of military unit: Men-at-arms, mercenaries and recruited men
Unit Type: HEAVY INFANTRY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 7
Defence: 7
Charge: Medium
Armour: Late medieval plate-and-mail and helmets
Melee Weapons: Longswords, Axes, Poleaxes, Halberds
Missile Weapons: None
Defensive Panoply: Large shields or none
Speed: Slow
Morale: Excellent
Discipline: Good
Notable abilities: Can form phalanx



Name of military unit: Armbrøstskydtere
Description of military unit: Professional crossbowmen
Unit Type: HEAVY MISSILE INFANTRY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 5
Defence: 7
Charge: Weak
Armour: Late medieval plate-and-mail and helmets
Melee Weapons: longswords/axes/maces/picks
Missile Weapons: Heavy Crossbows
Defensive Panoply: None or pavises
Speed: Slow
Morale: Excellent
Discipline: Good
Notable abilities:


Name of military unit: Leiðangsmennr (late period)
Description of military unit: MEDIUM MISSILE INFANTRY
Unit Type: Late medieval militia and levy.
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 5
Defence: 7
Charge: Medium
Armour: Helmets
Melee Weapons: “Sword-spears”, halberds
Missile Weapons: Bows
Defensive Panoply:
Speed: Fast infantry
Morale: Normal
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities: Can form “phalanx”

Name of military unit: Valslynge (early)
Description of military unit: Early man-powered torsion catapult
Unit Type: ARTILLERY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 1
Defence: 2
Charge: weak
Armour: Padded vápentryiu, helmets
Melee Weapons: swords, axes, or spears
Missile Weapons: Light catapult
Defensive Panoply: round shields
Speed: Slow
Morale: Weak
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities:

Name of military unit: Valslynge (high)
Description of military unit: A mangonel or trebuchet, likely crewed by foreign mercenaries.
Unit Type: ARTILLERY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 1
Defence: 3
Charge: weak
Armour: Padded vápentreiyu, helmets.
Melee Weapons: swords, axes or spears
Missile Weapons: Trebuchet/Mangonel
Defensive Panoply: large infantry heater shields
Speed: Immobile or slow
Morale: Weak
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities:

Name of military unit: Kanon
Description of military unit: A late medieval cannon, of the banded metal type. While the earliest reference to gunpowder in scandinavia come from 1250 or so, and a fellow named Paal Fisiler definitively demonstrates it, and explains it as a psychological weapon - "One often uses such hærbrest in war in order to make those who do not know of it flee in all directions" - in Bergen between 1292 and 1296, real siege artillery did not become common until the later middle ages.
Unit Type: GUNPOWDER ARTILLERY
Estimated Combat Characteristics
Melee Attack: 3
Defence: 4
Charge: weak
Armour: Helmets, Jacks.
Melee Weapons: longswords, poleaxes, halberds
Missile Weapons: Cannon
Defensive Panoply: None
Speed: Immobile or Slow
Morale: Normal
Discipline: Normal
Notable abilities: Boom!

[The Unknown Knight]

Do any team start out in iceland, and if so how many:hmmm:

[Horsa]

Do any team start out in iceland, and if so how many:hmmm:

What do you mean?

[Galloglaich]

What do you mean?

Propably asking if any faction starts in iceland, and if does, how many.

[Horsa]

Propably asking if any faction starts in iceland, and if does, how many.

I wouldn't think so, correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't the Norse settle in Iceland long after this mods starting date?

[Galloglaich]

Might be. Not sure.

[Norgesveldet]

I think that the culture and language differences between Iceland and Norway didn't start to develop before the 1300's, so if anything Iceland should be part of Norway.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think colonization of Iceland began in the late 800's?

[mocker]

Yup, that's not a too bad estimate. Our mod starts before that.

[absinthia]

iceland was brought into a "union" with norway in 1260`s, during the reign of haakon haakonson, by the treaty gissurarsáttmáli.
the era between the establishment of the alþingi in 930 and the treaty is known as Þjóðveldið, the self government.
thus, iceland should probably be inhabited by rebels.

[Icedie El Guaraní]

By the start of the campaign Iceland was just being settled by the norse, but by the 10th century it was known as the Icelandic Common wealth, from out from the 3 main regions.
Yeah i agree with Absinthia.

[mocker]

By the start of the campaign Iceland was just being settled by the norse, but by the 10th century it was known as the Icelandic Common wealth, from out from the 3 main regions.
Yeah i agree with Absinthia.

When our campaign starts, Iceland wasn't inhabited. Save a few monks, maybe.

[♔Icebear77♔]

Iceland wasn't inhabited by the norse when the campaign starts. The rebels should inhabite this island.
But 3 provices aren't historicaly correct. There were 4 main-provinces (see post in the map-thread).
Greetz
Ice

[mocker]

So we should have four provinces in an island inhabited by a total rebel population of 0...?

[♔Icebear77♔]

A good point, but in your view, iceland has no settlement and no poulation, therefore Iceland would not be interesting to implement into the campaign. It makes no sense if theres no settlement. If you already descided to have one region, its ok for me, but i think it is much more interesting, if you've got 4 settlement to conquer... Ireland has almoste the same size of the island, but has 7! regions...
In my view, its a little bit confusing if you make England and the rest of the map with the historic correct provinces, but Iceland not.
Of course could you say, thats not historic correct (with inhabitants), but in my view the only way to make Iceland a lot more interesting for the campaign. But let me know your point of view.
Greetz
Ice

[Horsa]

How about having it like the Americas so you have to discover it. Then you could have as many settlements as you like and keep it historical.

[gowski]

In my opinion Iceland doesn't need to be strategic, I'll just want to capture it anyway.

[Norgesveldet]

I'd say you should keep it as a small rebel settlement with little garrison. It's not like you're going to send a ship to capture Iceland on round 2, so you could just imagine it's "empty", until you or another faction capture it.

The idea about discovering it like the Americas isn't too bad, but it would be hard to implement though, as it lies directly north of Ireland...

I agree with Gowski, even if the population of Iceland was 1 I'd still be willing to commit a lot of units to capture it, just to complete my vision of the Norwegian Commonwealth! :p

[♔Icebear77♔]

@Wolf Coat...
That would be a nice feature. Would vote for your idea with the 4 main-regions.

@gowski
Thats ok, but wouldnt be much more interesting, if you`ve got 4 settlements, trading-routes to norway and scottland, which adds a lot of money.... :-)

[Antagonist]

Provinces are generally allocated more for political reasons than for geographical area or population size. Iceland should be a meaningful and potentially somewhat profitable place to go though...

In terms of control, there is AFAIK no reason why a "rebel" settlement has to have any kind of garrison, so it could be empty, but then there would be nothing to stop anyone sending a boat up there and taking it straight away, which would feel a little implausible. On the other hand, there is clearly no historical basis for any kind of military presence at the start of our period. There is a monk unit planned for the Irish actually, which would be the logical choice to put there, but it would afford no resistance whatsoever, being effectively a non-combat unit.

Antagonist