Retrofit mod = custom campaign mod?

**Gaul** · December 14, 2008, 02:46 PM

I have laundry to check on soon

Besides my first question, which one is the most current version, and why are the old ones still stickied there??

Thank YOU!

**AmbrosiusAurelianus** · February 18, 2009, 04:04 PM

Could someone please answer this guy's first question? because I'd like to know the answer too. Are the two mods the same?

If they are different, then I am curious as to why the features of both have not been made into a combined mod. It seems strange to me.

**Kristofer** · February 19, 2009, 03:52 PM

Retrofit - vanilla with some kingdom features, with Grand Unit Addon Mod you can also play with kingdom units etc.
Custom Campaign - like retrofit+playable Aztecs, Papal states, Mongols, Timurids, some new maps, kingdom units etc.

Read the first post in each mods own thread for a full list of features.

**AmbrosiusAurelianus** · February 19, 2009, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Kristofer

Read the first post in each mods own thread for a full list of features.

Yes; thank you. I did.

I still do not quite see why the two have not been amalgamated though. One mod seems to have extensive unit rebalancing that the other does not have.

**Kristofer** · February 20, 2009, 03:59 AM

Retrofit is listed as one of the major features of CC2:

The major features of the Custom Campaign Mod 2 are:

- Retrofit Mod: Adds many common features, fixes and improvements from Kingdoms including AI support armies, boiling oil, additional battle maps and hotseat multiplayer.

**AmbrosiusAurelianus** · February 20, 2009, 05:08 PM

Yes; I know, but when I installed the Custom Campaign mod I didn't notice any difference from vanilla in regards to unit rebalancing, so I wondered if only certain features from Retrofit, or perhaps an earlier version, had been implemented in the Custom Campaign mod.

**Kristofer** · February 22, 2009, 03:54 AM

Strange, I play CC2 at the moment and the units seems to be balanced as in Kingdoms. Cavalry unit size is smaller - 60 instead of 80 horses and infantry shield value has been raised to 8 instead of 6. AFAIK there is only one version of retrofit released and CC2 was released after Retrofit 1.0.

**AmbrosiusAurelianus** · February 22, 2009, 10:06 AM

Okay, maybe I simply did not notice the changes. I read the list of changes, but somehow the unit balancing did not seem to be much different when I actually fought a battle.

I shall try another mod. Thanks!

**St Naffatun** · March 19, 2009, 06:28 AM

In addition to the differences mentioned you can play as the rebels in Custom Campaign so you have a lot of settlements and a vast array of unit types around the globe and every single faction is at war with you. It's a nice campaign for a break from a normal campaign (worst sentence construction ever).

**Viking Prince** · March 19, 2009, 06:45 AM

Custom Campaign has more cash flow and easier recruitment. I would tell you more. but it has been ages since I played a campaign on it.

My recomendation is to just play out a short campaign with each and see how the game feels. Maybe a favorite faction that you know well in vanilla so that you can tell the differences.