"I have only two regrets: I didn't shoot Henry Clay and I didn't hang John C. Calhoun."- Andrew Jackson
Whatever we do, and aside from it being a technically excellent historic consideration, can we please not implement supply line chains and the like?! I always found them a hassle more than what they were worth and didnt add much to the gameplay IMO.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse." - J.S. Mill
The idea for the first release is to keep traits interesting but not allow them to get too much in the way to make things feel like a hassle. Decreased movement points and such will be present in traits, but you probably won't see a lot of huge decreases or huge bonuses for that aspect.
Well, as far as we can tell, they were at least culturally a Brythonic people like the Welsh, rather than a Goidelic people like the Irish and Scots. So does that make them Celtic? Possibly. We really can't be absolutely sure.
During this period the Picts were undergoing a cultural assimilation into the Scots -- in fact, the first several kings of the MacAlpin dynasty were still considered kings of the Picts, even though they were themselves Dal Riata Scots.
But my point here was simply that at this point in history, Celtic Berserkers would more closely fit with the Scots, rather than the Irish or Welsh, by virtue of their merging with the Picts.
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Depends on how you look at it. Aside from the expense of training and equiping cavalry, infantry are without doubt the most flexible and durable troop type. The Romans exemplified this by conquering europe primarily with infantry at a time when almost all of the "barbarian" civilisations fought primarily from horseback.
Mounted Cavalry allows elite infantry units to arrive at a battleground and hold it until the rest of the army can catch up, giving would be generals the tactical advantage of choosing their battleground (or at least a better chance of doing so). It also allowed the elite infantry units to be moved quickly around the battlefield to bolster key areas. The latter of these cannot really be captured in TW, however an increased movement speed for some units such as Huscarls and bodyguards would be an adequate representation of the former.
Officially, Scotland was unified in 843AD when Kenneth I MacAlpine, king of the Dal Raida Scots, crushed the picts and became King of the Picts. However it was not until around 890AD that Donald II became the first King of Alba. The name Alba as a kingdom historically did not appear until the reign of his successor Constantine II between 900 and 943, and it is during this time that the greatest changes occurred merging the the two kingdoms into what we now know and (some of us) love as Scotland. It is therefore viable to still have two factions, picts and scots, present in Scotland at this time, perhaps making the picts either unplayable or unlockable.
These units look stunningly beautiful.
But are these kilts? :hmmm:
aren't these kilts?
Whose is not?
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Hello, I'm new here and I didn't really want to necro an old thread so I'm worried about feeling stupid here, but I was wondering about the Saint Andrew's Cross you're using as the symbol for Scotland.
According to this source and Wikipedia (I'm sorry, but it is fairly reliable these days), the Scots didn't use the St. Andrew's Cross as their flag until the 14th century so it would seem a bit out of time if they used the cross now. I do realize that the SAC is used as the flag in the vanilla game, but calling that historically accurate would be a crime. I'm not too brushed up on my Scottish history, but wasn't the Lion Rampant in use at the time and that was their unified flag?
This is the Lion Rampant -
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I do apologize if I'm wrong, I just wanted to put my two cents in. Perhaps they used both flags?
Great work, but excuse me for doing some critiquing. I was the adviser to a number of mods, which unfortunately were canceled because of their ambitious scope.
I was the adviser for the Scottish, along with a professor in Gaelic warfare in the period surrounding this time.
The skins are great, but I'm afraid the Scottish nobles in particular have a few glaring inaccuracies for several reasons:
1) They have kilts; kilts did not appear in Scotland until the 16th century earliest. Before that, people wore a sort of tunic with trews, sort of like tights but a bit more loose.
If you're looking for some color, keep in mind armor consisted of padded coats dyed in green, faded red, browns, and some faded yellow color as well.
2) By the time of the Vikings, Beserkers based on the Picitsh model you've adopted had ceased to exist. By this time, Alba's inhabitants were Christian, and had dispensed with such a pagan martial ritual.
You did well with the archers though, that's how I imagine they'd look, however, by this time, the Scots had adopted the Longbow from the Welsh, and used it quite a bit.
What's more, they were beginning to adopt Anglo Saxon and even Continental ways of fighting, Flemish immigrants came over around this period as well.
The Scots also had adopted a technique of long spearmen in formation flanked by axemen.
Your skins/models are very nice, but they differ with the reality of how it was. I'd say they're colorful, for sure, but I'd also try to eliminate that "team color" effect it's presenting. For one thing, team colors didn't exist like that in real life, and secondly, it sort of detracts from the overall presentation.
But very good job from a technical standpoint.
At this point in time, in the Viking Age, Scotland did not really exist as a unified entity. There were still the Picts to deal with, as well as the Norsemen who had to be integrated into Scotland after they settled the Orkneys.
I'm not sure what the national flag would be, considering a nation at this point was simply the leading kingdom in the area. That said, there were the Dal Raidans who had the Red Hand of Ulster, a Red Hand painted on their banner, that certainly could be used as well.
But yeah, so far, this is a stellar effort, and it hits home on a few areas, but overall, I think some overhauling needs to be done for Alba because there are some pretty blatant inaccuracies.
Last edited by Mr Mac; March 29, 2009 at 01:02 PM.