i've heard not many...
During Years of the Trees and First Age they had about 3-4 children per family but during late Third Age average was about 0-2.
Well I've been thinking of making thread like this but I've lived in believe that it will be closed during next 12 hours or so...
Anyway, it's good that we have this thread now.
in a life of, say, 1000 years, they had only 1 or 2 sons? well, i guess that´s why there are so few of them (I though it was be cause they were all sailing to valinor). About Rohan vs Swam Knigth, i think it´s true that the Swam Knigths are some of the best cavarly in middle-earth, but Rohan´s men have better horses and are naturally skilled as horsemen (pretty much like mongols in real life: ligth armored, but very good riders and horses). So i would say that Rohan beats Dol.Amroth
Nope, only the most elite Rohan troops would be able to match the Swan Knights.
A few quick comments.
Although I must admit that I don't remember the exact durations for the Spring of Arda and the Years of the Trees, your figures seem excessively high. For example, I recall the Years of the Trees being approximately 1,500 years long, so I can only assume that you converted the actual years into their approximate solar equivalents.
(For those who have no idea what I'm talking about, note that during the Spring of Arda and the Years of the Trees, the period of time known as a year was just under ten times longer than what was considered a year after the creation of the Sun and Moon at the beginning of the First Age.)
I'm not sure where your numbers come from. Laws and Customs of the Eldar indicates that that elven families had few children, that a family with more than four was very rare, and that none had more children than Fëanor, who had seven sons. Tolkien does note that the average number of children decreased as the ages progressed, but is pretty clear that every elven marriage produced at least one child.
Why are all great elfs and men in Tolkiens middlearth from the same familly.
Like the first elf king is ancestor to Aragon and his kids.
Beren(married) is in that family and so is Hurin (his nephew got married to one of finwes house) all great persons elf and humans are of the house of Finwe.
There most be some one that does not some how goes into this familly.
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And technically Aragorn and Arwen are related since Aragorn is a descendant of Elros who is Elronds brother and chose to live a mortal life instead of Elvish since he is half-man and gets that choice. Although i belive Aragorn is about 24 generations down.
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The Rohirrim were Middle-men, so yeah, their royal family would have no relation to the Dunedain, except through the odd marriage, such as the one between Morwen of Lossarnach and King Thengel.
Anyway, I wouldn't say that the movies stayed very true to the literature. There were just too many niggling little details (and some bloody big ones, too), that were changed when the story was transferred to the big screen. The crown of Gondor, for example, was described as being similar to the helmet of the Guards of the Citadel, only taller and more impressive, whereas in the film it was simply a regular crown. Then there was the Gondorian armour, which has already been pointed out, and huge changes to the plot, such as Frodo's diversion to Osgiliath when he was held captive by Faramir.
Having said that, in my opinion the movies were absolutely fantastic in their own right. I certainly enjoyed them more than any other movies that were released around the same time.
Eorl the Young wasn't in PJ's movies either, and I thought he was a pretty awesome guy.
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