Tolkien General Discussion

[Code_Knight]

Well you read the title! Many of you are scholars in this area, so I have made a thread for you to talk about everything Tolkien related. You wanna talk about the length of a dwarves beard, GO for it! You wanna talk about mithril supply to the Elves, please be my guest! If this thread gets big enough, we may even make you guys a sub-forum right here at TATW. Chat away!

[Swagger]

how realistic are the Peter Jackson's movies, from the original books (descriptions, names, etc etc etc..) ?

a % (percentage) number please..


note: i know PJ didn't put everything in the movies, i mean, from what he put, how realistic are that!!

[Code_Knight]

how realistic are the Peter Jackson's movies, from the original books (descriptions, names, etc etc etc..) ?

a % (percentage) number please..


note: i know PJ didn't put everything in the movies, i mean, from what he put, how realistic are that!!

One thing I noticed is that the Gondorian armor is a lot different. Gondor would mostly wear chainmail because of the climate they were in (as described by the books). Even though PJ's version of the armor is incredible (hence why we are using it), it's not that accurate compared to other points in his movies.

[Swagger]

oh i see, is there any google'd picture of ''how gondorian armours should look like'' ?

[Code_Knight]

The second age armor in the movies was pretty accurate as to how they should have looked.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Swagger]

i believe i saw guys wearing that armour in denethor palace, near the white tree..

am i correct?

[Revan Shan]

Nop, those are different, and what is more: cooler, much cooler.

[Varjon]

I think Second Age armors were better since they had Númenorean heritage in them...

[Swagger]

what's the difference between ages?

i know there's fourth age total war, 3rd age (this one)..

what's the difference ?

[Code_Knight]

what's the difference between ages?

i know there's fourth age total war, 3rd age (this one)..

what's the difference ?

Pre First Age (sort of like biblical times):
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/rwf.downing/sprefir.htm

First Age:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/rwf.downing/sfirst.htm

Second Age:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/rwf.downing/ssecond.htm

Third Age (aka War of the Ring):
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/rwf.downing/sthird.htm

And the Fourth Age was the time after the war of the ring and after Aragorn was crowned king of Gondor.

[Swagger]

thanks..

[Varjon]

Years of the Lamps --> Years of the Trees --> First Age --> Second Age --> Third Age --> Fourth Age

Years of the Lamps

When Valar and Maiar arrived to Arda they created two lamps to bring light to world. Years of the Lamps ended when Melkor destroyed two lamps.

Years of the Trees

When lamps were destroyed valar created two trees and settled to Aman, during this time Aman was full of light and joy while Middle-earth was dark. Years of the Trees ended to darkening of Valinor and to leaving of Noldor.

First Age

First age began when Valar created sun and moon and when Noldor arrived to Middle-earth. First Age ended to War of Wrath where Morgoth was slain and captured and to sinking of Beleriand.

Second Age

Second Age began after War of Wrath. These years were days of glory for Númenor but years of darkness for Middle-earth. Second Age ended to Battle of Last Alliance where Sauron was slained.

Third Age

Third Age was time of waining of elves and Númenorean kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor. Third Age ended to destruction of the ring of power and leaving of three elven rings.

Fourth Age

Fourth Age was age of men and we don't know how long this age lasted or are we still living it.

[Swagger]

Second Age ended to Battle of Last Alliance where Sauron was slained.

Fellowship of the ring (movie) started with this right?

[Varjon]

Yeah.

[Code_Knight]

Fellowship of the ring (movie) started with this right?

Yes Sir!

[Varjon]

I post yet lengths of each age.

Years of the Lamps: 33537
Years of the Trees: 14325
First Age: 590
Second Age: 3441
Third Age: 3021
Fourth Age: ?

[DashSia]

how realistic are the Peter Jackson's movies, from the original books (descriptions, names, etc etc etc..) ?

a % (percentage) number please..


note: i know PJ didn't put everything in the movies, i mean, from what he put, how realistic are that!!

89.54316553245 % (see how precise I am!)

if we also talk about the scenes PJ didn't put in the movie

60.0000000000012 %

[BulSoldier]

I first learned about tolkien when the movies came and after i wathed them i was amazed and was certain to read the LOTR and all other stuff.However when i red it , I changed my view on the movies so i would say 60% is ok.Though something that anoyyed me was the end of the movie compared to the book.

[Swagger]

89.54316553245%

what was left ?

[Varjon]

Read the books, list is too long to write...