Who were the best in your opinion. And please don't start nationalist dicwaving.
British
American
German
Soviet
Chinese
Japanese
Finnish
Australian
Canadian
Bulgarian
Romanian
Hungarian
Italian
Belgian
Dutch
Polish
Indian
Norwegian
Yugoslavian
French
Greek
Who were the best in your opinion. And please don't start nationalist dicwaving.
The Germans and the finns i guess, but you can't really argue about this, they were all good in some way.
And this will ( 100% sure) Start a nationalistic debate
Last edited by Carl von Döbeln; July 05, 2009 at 05:18 AM.
Why have a poll that does not have all the participents?, and what exactly were they best at?. Unless you actually want to get, what you wrote you dont want?.
Like Carl has said this thread will arguably break out into nationalistic dickwaving.
Many though regard the Wehrmacht at their peak as an outstanding professional force.
The Wehrmacht. Not because they were the defeated side and therefore 'safe' but because they had a superb officer core, with a good tradition of open criticism of superiors that allowed for a suprisingly democratic model (alas it fell away in the second half of the war) and a flexible training program that promoted quick adjustment to changing tactical situations. They doggedly transcended all hopes even towards the end.
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-Emile Cammaerts' book The Laughing Prophets (1937)
Under the patronage of Nihil. So there.
1.German
2.Japanese
3.Yugoslavian
4.Chinese
5.Soviet
6.British
7.Romanian
8.Polish.................................
I voted for Tito's partizans. I think they got the most out of their resources of any force in WW2.
Hungarians. They both kicked Soviet and Nazi asses, not to mention the siege of Budapest, which was the most devastating siege in the history of modern warfare.
I'd say Germans... fallschrimjägers.
I guess Finns did not do all that bad and neither did Brits.
Last edited by Applesmack; October 30, 2008 at 02:11 PM.
Every country probably had units of soldiers worthy of being called the best, but I think as a whole nation, I'd have to say the German Wehrmacht, certainly in the early years of the war.
(Still voted British though, just a natural reaction.)
Why are the French on the list?...who would vote for them?
I'd say Germans because well,look at history,they were superb soldiers...If only the HQ would have been as good as the common soldier...
O Sancta Simplicitas!
that sounds like a silly thread to me.....besides when I look at the poll I see people voted for their own country...
What I think? The question should be changed to "who were the most efficient" Germans and Finns IMO
"Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner. On the contrary, we must try to help the dogmatists to clarify their propositions for themselves. Thus, communism, in particular, is a dogmatic abstraction; in which connection, however, I am not thinking of some imaginary and possible communism, but actually existing communism as taught by Cabet, Dézamy, Weitling, etc. This communism is itself only a special expression of the humanistic principle, an expression which is still infected by its antithesis – the private system. Hence the abolition of private property and communism are by no means identical, and it is not accidental but inevitable that communism has seen other socialist doctrines – such as those of Fourier, Proudhon, etc. – arising to confront it because it is itself only a special, one-sided realisation of the socialist principle."
Marx to A.Ruge
Just a sec here,greek soldiers are absent from the list which is quite wrong especially for the first half of the war.Hitler himself recognised their heroic fighting,and ordered personally that no greek soldier should be taken prisoner(in fact all greek soldiers after the armistice went back to their homes independently on foot).The greek soldier was the first to deliver a defeat to the axis forces(defeating the italians in Epirus) and Crete resisted for a month and made hitler abandon his plans of using airborn troops for the rest of the war(after crete they were used only as elite infantry).So the ill equiped and severely outnumbered greek soldier gave a rather good performance during the Balkan campaign 1940-1941,I don't know if he was the best soldier overall but he surely deserves to be a candidate.
that is true too.....but I still think the way this thread asks the question is wrong. Some feelings of people from various nations will just not let them think about the others. There must have been very heroic fightings in everywhere, we might not know most of it.
"Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner. On the contrary, we must try to help the dogmatists to clarify their propositions for themselves. Thus, communism, in particular, is a dogmatic abstraction; in which connection, however, I am not thinking of some imaginary and possible communism, but actually existing communism as taught by Cabet, Dézamy, Weitling, etc. This communism is itself only a special expression of the humanistic principle, an expression which is still infected by its antithesis – the private system. Hence the abolition of private property and communism are by no means identical, and it is not accidental but inevitable that communism has seen other socialist doctrines – such as those of Fourier, Proudhon, etc. – arising to confront it because it is itself only a special, one-sided realisation of the socialist principle."
Marx to A.Ruge
1 German
2 Finnish
3 Japanese
4 Soviets
5 American
6 British
7 Yugoslavian
Last edited by Belisaire_; October 30, 2008 at 02:46 PM.
Germans. By far. They took my country within a few days, with a lot of planning beforehand. Keep in mind that we had a defensive ring of fortresses near the border on hills, a large army mobilized, a good airforce and the envirenment was to be used to our advantage. The Germans steamrolled through the fortresses, sorrounding and killing the soldiers there; used spies to clear the rivers and dykes. They did what would take the Allies weeks, if not months to accomplish.
1. Germans. Read above.
2. Finns. Google ''winter war statistics'', you'll bricks.
3. Soviets. Half of them were boys armed with very little that would get shot if they didn't advance. They did extremely well against the Jerries.
4. Japs. Utter madmen.
5. Commenwealth and Brits. These were the guys that tried to conquer the aforementioned my country back. And they ing won as well. Kudos.
Last edited by Dr. Croccer; October 30, 2008 at 02:40 PM.
Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
Cň am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu brŕth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhěthein buaile fŕs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sěos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an ŕird.
Originally Posted by Jörg FriedrichOriginally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
That's not the point, the point is Hungarians as a small nation fought desperately, and put up a helluva fight.
Yeah you're right, Russian asses were miserably kicked, not wonder why Russia failed to prevent her homeland being raped by the Germans: just how could they be possibly unprepared for Hitler?
And yes, it was a very big honour to roll back the Germans, after they had to fight on several fronts, maintain the domination of Europe + fight against the Russians.
GERMANY WINS THREAD. CASE CLOSED.