Tribunal Commentary Thread

[xcorps]

I do believe the defying moderators rule was brought in specifically as a result of people keeping on reposting what had been deleted, edited or closed by moderators. That is the general understanding of the rule since it was brought in (some time in 2009 IIRC). The Tribunal can judge whether or not what TDLS did crosses the line of the rule as generally understood. Whether or not Arcturus exists without mens wear should be irrelevant. The rule is there. The evidence is there. Does the evidence fit the rule?

Of course, if TDLS wants to argue intentions and whatnot, he can try the Praetorium, which allows any arguments the appellant desires, rather than the strict comparison of evidence against the rules which the Tribunal works on.

He didn't know that his post was deleted by moderation. He wasn't trying to defy moderators, he was trying to debate.
There's no evidence that shows that he intentionally reposted after deletion by moderation, only that he reposted. A PM from the Moderator or a statement by the moderator in the thread warning about post deletions would have changed the trajectory of this, no?

As it stands, there is sufficient doubt as to TLDR's defiance of moderation to grant him his appeal, imho.

[Markas]

I see Sharpe's Company following his party line of playing the victim of the establishment. His shaky relationship with facts notwithstanding, there is also the apparent contempt for jews he displays such as his 'Jo jewess Coburn' remarks when describing a BBC presenter. In this context it is abundantly clear he meant to insult Denny with his 'joke' image. Typical posts from him brimming over with bile and accusations at those that disagree with him.

[Primo]

I fail to see how this was a banning offence, I admit though I do see an overzealous mod in Jom.

He constantly tries to ban people he doesn't agree with, he is full of hate.

So, the one who posted this got an infraction for insulting people? Surprise, surprise.

This alone makes a very bad case for him in the tribunal; apart from the obvious insult, that is.

Edit: Just realised that you can interpret my first sentence to be something it isn´t. I just mean that I would expect some insults of a member who posts that in his tribunal case.

[Chris Death]

As much as one can interpret into the history of a member or an image of a caricature,
it somehow technically isn't an insult imho.

The picture will return the viewer whatever he wants to see in it;

a jew

a jew with a beard

a man with a beard

...and a cappy

...etc.

off course it can return the viewer also all the other stuff that might be taken
into consideration when thinking about it as an insult but technically it doesn't
say nothing but whatever you want.

~S~ CD

[Boustrophedon]

The "Jom is full of hate" comment in the appeal had me booming with laughter

[pannonian]

On the TDLS case, if the Tribunal had not already noticed from the screenshot Squid posted. The first and last TDLS posts were 6 hours apart. Do you really suppose the member had something on his mind, noticed that the post hadn't gone through, and presumed it was a technical problem, 6 hours after he'd posted his first instance?

[TheSutekh]

On the TDLS case, if the Tribunal had not already noticed from the screenshot Squid posted. The first and last TDLS posts were 6 hours apart. Do you really suppose the member had something on his mind, noticed that the post hadn't gone through, and presumed it was a technical problem, 6 hours after he'd posted his first instance?

You're saying that me reposting mutliple times due to presumption of technical problems is not plausible because there is a large time gap between posts?

[John F. Kennedy]

People have lives, a scenario could easily be created that would have TDLS press "enter" and not take the time to notice whether or not he actually posted. Perhaps he was rushed for classes or something, which would then explain the 6 hour gap, and when he came home noticed the post wasn't there and assumed in his rush something didn't go right.

Just saying, I've had it happen to me before.

[pannonian]

People have lives, a scenario could easily be created that would have TDLS press "enter" and not take the time to notice whether or not he actually posted. Perhaps he was rushed for classes or something, which would then explain the 6 hour gap, and when he came home noticed the post wasn't there and assumed in his rush something didn't go right.

Just saying, I've had it happen to me before.

He posted it 3 times.

1st post: 3:24am.
2nd post: 3:45am.
3rd post: 9:33am.

TDLS gave a BS defence, and the Tribunal swallowed it whole. Good on him. The lesson the mods need to learn from this is to have a concrete and specific warning of some sort, so this kind of pretence gets short shrift. It's a lesson I learned early on.

[TheSutekh]

He posted it 3 times.

1st post: 3:24am.
2nd post: 3:45am.
3rd post: 9:33am.

TDLS gave a BS defence, and the Tribunal swallowed it whole. Good on him. The lesson the mods need to learn from this is to have a concrete and specific warning of some sort, so this kind of pretence gets short shrift. It's a lesson I learned early on.

Care to explain how the time difference between posts make my defense not plausible or are you gonna keep on throwing accusation while ignoring me?

[Harry Lime]

Appeal 801 is finished.

The Tribunal didn't swallow any BS, we find it most unpalatable. The whole affair was thoroughly investigated and significantly debated in Quarters. If anyone wants to continue the issues raised by this appeal they should do so in a more appropriate place and in a specific thread. This thread is for current appeals only so if you please......

[Ciabhán]

Sorry Harry and not to be that who speaks out in the wrong place but I have to agree with pann here. Not saying you swallowed but that defense reeks of it.

[Leonidas The Lion]

Muchachos please lets move on, active cases only.

[s.rwitt]

Unfortunate to see that TWC's hidden jewish lobby has silenced Sharpe's Company again.

[Ferdiad]

It's not hidden now.

[Gigantus]

Denny Crane is the one who blew his top, and all because i rattled him.
[snip all the other rant]
His unethical methods have already brought ruin to the United kingdom, and as he knows this to be true, he has no other option that to resort to insults and personal slurs in his dabtes.

Denny must be really good - single handedly ruining an entire economy. Oh wait, who got infracted for insulting others?

[Primo]

Denny must be really good - single handedly ruining an entire economy. Oh wait, who got infracted for insulting others?

[xcorps]

The "Jom is full of hate" comment in the appeal had me booming with laughter

New standards continue to be set.

Kudos to Soren for his moderation in Sharpes Co thread.

[John F. Kennedy]

The rage is strong with this one...

[ArkocentoArisen]

It seems to me that, we have had a gradual increase of derogatory statements on Twc, the whole appeal was a major...Insult to have to review at all, to make matters worse there wasnt even an argument by the defendant, at all during the discussion, just insults directed at a different member