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    Default Ideas for ancillaries/traits

    Swagger has offered to make custom ancillaries for TATW. So, post your suggestions here!

    Rules: It has to be a person or item with support in the literature, you have to write specifics, such as who it will belong to (could be more than one person), triggers, wether it's transferable or not and which bonuses it will give.

    Now, put your thinking caps on and give us some ideas!



    Important imformation concerning trait/ancillary effects!

    In TATW, Piety will be replaced with Obedience. Since most of the vanilla traits and ancillaries that boost piety relate to religion, we will need to make our own. Evil factions use Obedience to keep Sauron happy, keep that in mind.

    Additionally, Management isn't a valid effect, you'll have to be more specific. Management will have to be replaced with modifiers for income from different sources, different types of public order, etc.
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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    i've already made a list of ancillaries, based on ''artifacts and relics'' from LOTR


    i've created this template, so you can use it to give your ideas, remember, that ideas, without using the template will not be include (not by me), im not an LOTR expert, so the more info, the best



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    Name: Name of the Ancillary
    Description: make a little description, to be shown in the game
    Factions: to wich factions AND/OR cultures
    Effect/Bonus: gives what bonuses (authority, morale, hitpoints, etc..)
    Trigger: how does a general/agent gets this?
    Comments: is this ancillary trasmissible from father to son?, or any other idea?
    Images (if possible): if you can find a image, to be in the game as ancillary image would be very helpful



    note: copy paste it, and remove the red part, and add your own, based on the info i wrote

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    i've also added some of kingdoms docudemons, take a look at them to help you in the Trigger part



    Note:

    The ancillaries, are things that a general has, can be a magical sword, or a dusty clock..

    not only artifacts and relics will be included, give ideas, that are not only relics and artifacts
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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    Oh. Probably I need to post Team results about ancillaries to make things cleared

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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    Name: Noldor
    Description: Noldor, elves who are highly skilled in crafts and great in knowledge
    Factions: High Elves
    Effect/Bonus: Command, building bonus, mining bonus
    Trigger: Passes from father to son and appears randomly to generals when they come to age or are being adopted
    Comments: This is race ancillary for elves and should be most rare, 1/5 generals of High Elves should have this ancillary
    Last edited by Varjon; October 25, 2008 at 06:16 AM.

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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    good, but can you be more specific in the bonus?


    like

    +1 command, +2 authority etc etc..
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    i didn't know that "noldor" is an ancillary


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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    I'm not very good with that stuff because after all I don't play TW very much at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieTheTrooper View Post
    i didn't know that "noldor" is an ancillary
    They were superior to other elves in Middle-earth so I think that ancillaries would be best solution to that.
    Last edited by Varjon; October 25, 2008 at 06:21 AM.

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    Name: Captain of Gondor
    Description: The rank of captain is given to a seasoned veteran of Gondor
    Factions: Gondor
    Effect/Bonus: command bonus when commanding infantry 1+/2+
    Trigger: coming of age

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    If you want i can make more!
    it will be given to a family member.
    Last edited by Landkreuzer ratte; October 25, 2008 at 06:42 AM.

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    Hi Swagger,

    This should give you something to do:

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    Settlements titles

    Silvan Elves, High Elves and Dwarves
    Lord of Mithlond: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Rivendell: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Lórien: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Ered Ethring: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Gundabad: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    King of Erebor: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    ...
    Rohan, Dale & Eriador
    Duke of Wold: +1 Authority, +1 Management
    Duke of Westfold: +1 Authority, +1 Management
    Duke of Breeland: +1 Authority, +1 Management
    ....
    exceptions:
    Master of Lake-town: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Dale: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Edoras: +2 Authority, +2 Management

    Gondor
    Title Lord of Minas Tirith should only be available for faction leader only
    Lord of Emyn Arnen: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Pelargir: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Lossarnach: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Dol Amroth: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    ....
    Mordor, Isengard, Orcs of Misty Mountains, Rhűn and Harad
    Chieftain of Nurn: +1 Authority, +1 Management
    Chieftain of Cirith Ungol: +1 Authority, +1 Management
    Cieftain of Carn Dűm: +1 Authority, +1 Management
    Lord of Barad-dűr: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Minas Morgul: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Dol Guldur: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Umbar: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Orthanc: +2 Authority, +2 Management

    Faction leader ancillaries

    Steward of Gondor (Gondor): +?
    King of the Mark (Rohan): +?
    King of Dale (Dale): +?
    Chieftain of the Dúnedain (Eriador): +?
    King of Durin's Folk (Dwarves): +?
    High King of Noldor (High Elves): +?
    King of the Woodland Realm (Silvan Elves): +?
    Dark Lord of Mordor (won't be needed, since the Dark Lord will be a "faction")
    Lord of Orthanc (Isengard): +?
    Orc-chieftain of Gundabad(Orcs): +?
    Chieftain of Harad (Harad): +?
    Chieftain of Rhűn (Easterlings): +?

    Others

    Gandalf the Grey: +?
    Radagast the Brown: +?
    Saruman the White: +?
    Longbeard (Dwarves): +?
    Mithril Mail (Dwarves): + 1 hit points
    Morgul Blade: +4 dread +1 command.
    Bow of the Galadrim: +2 command vs. Evil + 3 chivalry
    Numenorien Heirloom: +1 Management +1 Authority
    Banner of Elendil: +4 authority +2 command
    Shadowfax: +50% movement points
    Evenstar: + 2 Management
    Scavenged Dwarven Armor: +hit points + 2 command
    Old Toby: +1 management, + morale
    Dunedain Ranger: +2 command, + 2 managment
    Pet Warg: + personal Security + 1 dread
    Loyal Hound: + personal Security
    Hobbit Squire: + 1 management + morale
    Bard: + 1 chivalry
    Treacherous Advisor: -2 authority -1 command
    String: +3 to Personal security
    Galadrim Sentry (Elves): + line of Sight + 1 command.
    Elvish Rope (Elves): +1 managment
    Elvish Magician (Elves): +2 command, + 2 management, + 2 dread
    Cloak of Lorien (Elves): +2 command
    Arrows of Lorien (Elves): + 1 archery command

    Nazgul Ring: +3 to Dread +2 to command opposite Good human races
    The One Ring: +4 Command, +4 Authority, +4 Dread
    Ring of Barahir: +3 Command, +3 Authority
    Andúril: +4 Command, improves morale of units on battlefield
    Sceptre of Annúminas: +3 Authority, +3 Management
    Nenya: +2 Command, +4 Authority, +4 Management
    Vilya: +3 Command, +4 Authority, +4 Management, improves public health
    Narya: +4 Command, +3 Authority, +3 Management, improves morale of units on battlefield
    Staff of Saruman: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Staff of Gandalf: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Gúthwinë: +2 Command
    Herugrim: +3 Command

    good generals
    Map of Middle Earth: + 1 line of sight
    Ithilien Ranger: + 1 command
    Elf Friend: + 2 command, + 2 chivalry
    Dwarf Friend: + 2 command + 2 management
    Rider of Rohan: + 2 command when using Cavalry
    Shield Maiden: + 2 command + 2 management
    Gollum: + 3 dread, + movement points, + chance of assassination
    Lembas: + morale + 1 managment

    evil generals
    Gollum: + 3 dread, + movement points, + chance of assassination
    Menacing Uruk: + 2 command + 2 dread
    Troll: + 1 command + 3 dread
    Snaga Slave: + 1 management
    Man Head: +1 command + 1 dread
    Black Numenorien: + 2 dread +2 command + 1 management
    Tree Axe: + 1 dread + 2 management
    Man Flesh: + morale
    Worshipper of Morgoth: + 3 dread + 2 management
    Corsair: + 1 command
    Mumakil Trainer: +1 command when using Calvary
    Wainrider: + 3 command when using Cavalry
    Troll Captain: + 3 dread + 3 command
    Cave troll trainer: + 2 command
    Witch: + 2 dread
    Mumakil Tusk: + 2 command
    Burning Post: + 1 dread + 2 command
    Chopping block: + 2 dread + 2 command.

    I'm not exactly sure whether Quark has started these, but as far as I know he hasn't made any of them.
    Btw, sorry that I can't use your template for all of them, but as a good ancillary maker I'm sure you can add your own thoughts.

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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    O.O..wow


    they're alot..


    you miserable


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    Lord of Mithlond: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Rivendell: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Lórien: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Ered Ethring: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    Lord of Gundabad: +2 Authority, +2 Management
    King of Erebor: +2 Authority, +2 Management


    i told that should always be an ancillary, and you said ''they don't walk aside with the general'', and now you're giving me this




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    Well if you need images for kk suggestions i can try to find some.

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    absolutly, images are very important to make a realistic ancillary
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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    Titeles is basic. General is what where is three basic types LORD, DUKE and SHIEFTAN what haVE SOME SIMPLE BONUSES. fOR UNIQUE TITLES THEY WOULD BE MODIFAIED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swagger View Post
    absolutly, images are very important to make a realistic ancillary
    Should i post images here.
    And read my suggestion too.

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    Last edited by Landkreuzer ratte; October 25, 2008 at 07:19 AM.

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    Stop-stop. It's titul, not person

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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    i've been playing with the triggers, and i reached the conclusion that relics and artifacts (like rings, and that kind of stuff), would be better, if a general that was killed owned that ancillary

    for example:

    lets imagine, you're fighting a battle, and the enemy general was FRODO, and he got the ring (the ancillary)

    you fight the battle etc, and you managed to kill frodo


    the ring he had (ancillary) will automaticly pass from him to you...and so on..


    what do you think?
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    it's good but how about my suggestions swagger!

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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    That's what we've been thinking.

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    Default Re: Ideas for ancillaries

    the captain of gondor suggestion?


    i believe that would fit better in traits, my partener Quark will deal with them

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