As a response to this f''ckface's article ''Death Threats from Muslims'', I sent him this.
Another part of your article:Hi. My name is Egemen Birben; I'm a 16 year old Turkish-muslim who studies college here in the U.s. I have a few objections to make about your article ''Death Threats from Muslims.'' I would like to state some facts and ask a couple of questions to you (by quoting some parts from the article)
About the first 15th objections, what Khalil said were all false and I completely agree with you. This stuff, slavery, sexism, chauvinism, pedophilism, rape, murder; hundreds, maybe thousands of cases exist in a muslim community. But does this mean that my religion encourages such acts? Does that mean the community of Iran is a representative of a true Islamic community and it's laws are the representatives of the true Sharia?
Just 60 years ago, didn't a nation blinded by nationalist socialism killed 7 million Jews under the banner of Christ? Isn't it true that famous Spanish inquisitions take place? Would Jesus, famous for his quotes such as ''Turn the other cheek.'' support a military project such as the crusades? Ugly sh''t happens. Does that mean that the holiest book in Christianity, the Bible, support these acts?
I can show you passages in the Qu'ran and prove that my holy book denounces every foul act I have mentioned above.
''We'' did invent science - Invent is actually a wrong word to use, science is discovered not ''invented'', since your main language is English I guess you know better than I do-, the Islamic world contributed the science much more than you think. In fact, if you would grab an encyclopedia and look at names such as Khwarizmi, Cemshid, Takiyuddin, Al Jaziri, Al Pharabius, Averroes,Al Mahudi, Geber, Rhazes,Ibn Yunus,Omar Khayyam, Avicenna, Biruni, Kutbi and tens of them may God never let their names be forgotten, you would realize that these Leonardo Da Vinci's of the East:My response: Khalid, you know perfectly well that there are at least a dozen different versions of Islam, all of which say they follow "the eternal word of God.. the Quran". The fact is, none of you can agree on what it means. There is no caliph, my friend, and one interpretation is just as good as another. If Muslim theology encouraged rational thinking, Muslims would have invented science. You didn't, even though you had at least a five hundred year head start on the West. You still can't do science - you have to buy it from the Christians. In Christianity, science developed under the rationality of Catholic Faith. Christianity also has a supreme head: the Pope. True, not everyone listens to him, but he is there and has always been there. The office of Caliph doesn't even exist anymore and will never be reconstituted. You don't have a supreme voice, nor even the pretense of one."
a)founded Sybernetics.
b)founded the modern mathematics. (numbers -That's right, the numbers used in math are arabic, bynomes, the term ''x'' etc.)
c)founded Chemistry. (Chemistry is an arabic word Steve, ''al Kimya''
d)discovered the principle of pendulum (In case you do not know what it is, the concept of ''time''
If I continued by mentioning all the achievements in Biology, Astronomy, Optics, Medicine, Philosophy, I would've literally written a book. Where do you think the Europeans acquired the scriptures that would lead them to their renaissance? Yes, your guess is right. The people who follow the evil religion..
There are couple of points I have to make.My response: No, that's how Islam thinks. Christians think we have to defend ourselves, i.e., keep anyone from imposing sharia on us or on anyone else. Sharia is evil, my friend, pure evil. And as for the Crusades, give it a rest. Islam conquered one-half of Christianity between 632 and 750. We didn’t call crusade. Islam cut off pilgrimage access to the Holy Lands. We started the stations of the Cross devotion in response. Only when Islam destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem was Crusade called, and that was only after 400 years of Islamic military provocation. Even then, we didn’t attempt to wipe out Mecca or Medina. We stopped when we got Jerusalem and the holy sites back.
a) Why should the crusades be given a rest? Just because it was ''supposedly provoked by centuries of muslim conquest (I have an objection there too), the killings are justified?. Was it necessary to sack Antioch, Damascus and Jerusalem? Was it necessary to bathe the temple of Suleiman with the blood of the muslim civilians in Jerusalem?
b) What is with the ''we'' use? Have you participated in the Crusades, my friend? It must be terribly sad to hear this from a 16 year old ''terrorist'', but that reminded of the class newspaper my classmates and I wrote in kindergarten.
c)''You'' stopped when you got the holy sites back? What about the 2nd (or 3rd, if you include the peasant's crusade) is Edessa a holy site to the Christian faith?
d) Let's get back to a); your way of uniting christianity is really strange. The Iberia the Umayyad's invaded was owned by Vizigoths, the former aryan Christians...The people whose ancestors fought in the battle of Adrianople and under king Alarich, sacked Rome in 410. I seriously doubt that a Byzantine Romaioi of the time would consider that attack as an attack to Christianity itself... rather a curse to the barbarians who raided the greatest city in the world..Don't you think?
You also seem to be forgetting the great Schism of 1054,just 40 years before the crusades, that the pope and the arch bishop excommunicated each other. There wasn't a linguistic unity, nor a cultural one. So the Christians have been fighting each other long before the crusades, just take a look at the 4th one.
The world is much deeper than you think, the religion is hardly the answer to the question why people hate each other in this world...My response: Whatever makes you happy, Khalid.
So, this how a self-described prominent Muslim journalist argues. First, he prays that you will get cancer and die. Then he brings forward objections which he knows are false. When you show him that you know he is a liar, he threatens to nuke your country and bring a fatwah, a death sentence, against you personally by posting your refutations in every mosque and newspaper he can reach.
And this is a moderate Muslim. Just think what the immoderate Muslims would do…
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