Post Marian Project: Marius Message Triggering Method

[Suppanut]

I'm quite sure that our project are now at about 40% complete so now I think it's time to think seriously on how to trigger the message for Reformed for all factions.

As everyone known, currently, marius event trigger message to roman factions only. This is hardcoded and no direct open method to change it. But for indirect method there are many way. Thanks for DimeBagHo that he create "Marius" ancillaries which trigger at condition of Marius reform which it open our way to coded event's text messages triggeration which as far as I think, it has 2 ways.

1) Triggered via script.
Pro:
- can have original event's picture for messages.
- can have original event's name for messages.
Con:
- our team have no able scripter.

2) Triggered via Trait gain message.
Pro:
- has team member which able to do(me)
Con:
- can't have original event's picture for messages.
- can't have original event's name for messages as all name as new traits recieved


What do you think? Do you have any idea?

[Dom9127]

I don't like the script idea, so I guess the second one is best. Can anybody shed more light on how the reforms work, when they happen, will it be for all factions, will different faction's have different reforms at different times etc?

[Suppanut]

EB's method to made several minor reform came through huge script which is unmentioning forbidden in XGM. Everyone who play XGM want the light one.

Other thing. What I concern about triggering not reform trigger which have been discuss since at start of project to use one same marius trigger (but if it could be done without script so it would nice to try so but as far as I know scripting and restructuring like BI is quite conventional for it). What I concern now is to trigger message to inform player about reform if player not play as roman as now only the roman gain the message.

[DimeBagHo]

An easier method might be to have the advisor pop up and say that the reforms have ocurred, plus a brief explanation of what that means. There's no need to add a script and a special event message.

[Suppanut]

Thanks for the sound advice DimeBagHo. The rest are what other in team think about method.

Oh, do anyone know how to use advice text and triggeration?

[DimeBagHo]

There is a basic guide to adding advice threads here. Modding advice is quite similar to modding traits and ancilaries. You add an advice thread in the first half of expprt_descr_advice.txt, one or more triggers in the second half, and any text you want displayed in text/export_advice.txt. If you want to fire a script then you need to add the scripts in scripts/show_me/.

[Suppanut]

I think I would like try to combine both background script and and advice script to get best outcome as possible but this must be after I finish my business with traits, ancillaries and mercenary issues as well as I spend some times to learn how to do it as now I think I understand about scripting a little bit better than before.

[Suppanut]

I have create gross flow chart for whole trigger during "Marius reform" as outline.

Here is flow chart for "Post Marian Event Text trigger".

1)Reform message
->Create Marius Unique ancillaries
--->Ancillaries "marius" detected
--->Background Script-->trigger event "An age of changes"-->end of background script
----->event "An age of changes" detected
----->Advisor script-->show advisor message "Faction military reform have been issued"(context of messages different according to factions)-->end of scripts
------->Click "show me how"
------->Trigger Message describe faction tactical change(message different according to faction)

2)Post-Reformed Environment
->Create Marius Unique ancillaries
--->Ancillaries "marius" detected with hidden attribute "Electability 10"
----->high "Electability" attribute detected from "marius"
----->Give trait "Reformed" to roman faction leader
--->Ancillaries "marius" detected
--->Created ancillaries "Reformer"(name and context may varies or unique according to factions) with hidden attribute "Electability 10"(may varied according to factions) to all faction leaders
----->high "Electability" attribute detected
----->Give trait "Reformed" to all faction leaders
------->FactionLeaderTrait "Reformed" detected
------->Give trait "Reformed" to all character in faction
------->Conditioning to give trait "Reformed" to all future character
----->Give trait "PartialCivilized" to spain, thrace, scythia
------->Give trait "PartialCivilized" to all character in faction
------->Conditioning to give trait "PartialCivilized" to all future character

"Reformed", "PartialCivilized", etc are using as condition of traits and ancillaries which will appear only after reformed.


Text1 (By Zarax at the beginning of project)
Title: An age of changes
Body: The turmoil caused by the new rising powers in the Mediterranean and the far east means that the tactics used in the age of Alexander are starting to fade away. Roman and Parthian success over the Celtic and Hellenistic military traditions pushed changes in all the surviving powers, either by imitation or by innovations of their own, bringing a new pace in the endless race for survival and domination.\n\nNew troop types are now available and some others became obsolescent reflecting the changes brought by time. Check the recruitment scroll to view the details.


Need more text message for each factions.
1) What would advisor said in advisor scripts
2) Each factions reform's description to "show me how" composed of
- History context according to reform and post reform rosters
- Description on further reform with post-reformed monument.
- Tactical change
- Introduction to new key units, especially key units

What is your opinion? Is it a good idea?

[CaesarVincens]

That looks pretty good to me. I don't think there needs to be a whole block of text for any of the factions. A simple "Times are changing" with maybe a bit more than what Zarax has already put would be good.

[Suppanut]

That looks pretty good to me. I don't think there needs to be a whole block of text for any of the factions. A simple "Times are changing" with maybe a bit more than what Zarax has already put would be good.

This is why I try to put a whole block of text in advisor script as you can easy to ignore them but you can also read about historical context as well as introduction to new changing roster if player like to.

Here is topic for each factions introduction to post-reform era.

Here are quite satisfy topics
Roman: Marius' Reform
Carthage: The Liby-Phoenicians
Scythia: The Rise of Sarmatians
Spain: Effect of Rome to Iberian Paninsula
Thrace: Civilization of Dacia
Germans: Effect of Roman on Germans peoples and the Age of Migrations to Come
Gauls: Effect of Rome to The Celtic World
Baktria: Indo-Greek, The Sakae, and The Yuezhi
Seleucid: Orientalization of the Seleucid Empire
Ptolemaic: The Machimoi and Its Important in Lated Ptolemaic Army

Here may need better topics
GCS: Greek Cities States and Roman World
Macedonia: Macedonia After Alexander The Great
Pontus: Hellenization And Diversity In Anatolia
Armenia: Armenia as The True Heir of The Archimenids
Saba: The Arabs and Arabian Paninsula Before Age of Islam
Parthia: Parthia During Era of Empire (upto Sassanid)

Feel free to add, give opinions about changing factions' topic, or write the article if you like as I know that some topic I can't write by myself.

[CaesarVincens]

One thing I would change is to change Iberia's message to the same type as Gaul's, that is the effect of Rome on Iberia, as Rome won't have colonized Iberia necessarily.

[Suppanut]

Thanks for correct me, Caesar. At first I think about Iberia is that they are the region with many famous romans in the area in later era so I ask about romanization of it but as you correct me so I will change according to you.

[Suppanut]

Here is Background Script for activated Reform message

script

monitor_event FactionTurnStart WorldwideAncillaryExists marius true
and not I_LocalFaction romans_julii
        console_command event historic An_age_of_changes
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Suppanut]

Trigger Part of Advice script

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_roman
    WhenToTest FactionTurnStart

    Condition WorldwideAncillaryExists marius
          and I_LocalFaction romans_julii

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_roman_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_macedon
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction macedon

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_macedon_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_egypt
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction egypt

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_egypt_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_seleucid
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction seleucid

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_seleucid_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_carthage
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction carthage

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_carthage_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_parthia
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction macedon

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_parthia_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_pontus
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction pontus

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_pontus_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_gauls
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction gauls

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_gauls_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_germans
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction germans

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_germans_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_britons
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction britons

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_britons_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_armenia
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction armenia

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_armenia_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_dacia
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction dacia

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_dacia_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_greek_cities
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction greek_cities

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_greek_cities_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_scythia
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction scythia

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_scythia_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_spain
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction spain

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_spain_Thread  0

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reform_thrace
    WhenToTest IncomingMessage

    Condition IncomingMessageType An_age_of_changes
          and I_LocalFaction thrace

    AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_thrace_Thread  0

[Suppanut]

Here is AdviceThread part of Advisor scripts.

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_roman_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_roman_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_roman_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_roman.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_roman_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_macedon_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_macedon_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_macedon_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_macedon.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_macedon_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_egypt_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_egypt_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_egypt_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_egypt.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_egypt_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_seleucid_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_seleucid_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_seleucid_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_seleucid.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_seleucid_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_carthage_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_carthage_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_carthage_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_carthage.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_carthage_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_parthia_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_parthia_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_parthia_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_parthia.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_parthia_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_pontus_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_pontus_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_pontus_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_pontus.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_pontus_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_gauls_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_gauls_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_gauls_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_gauls.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_gauls_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_germans_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_germans_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_germans_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_germans.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_germans_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_britons_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_britons_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_britons_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_britons.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_britons_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_armenia_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_armenia_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_armenia_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_armenia.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_armenia_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_dacia_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_dacia_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_dacia_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_dacia.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_dacia_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_greek_cities_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_greek_cities_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_greek_cities_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_greek_cities.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_greek_cities_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_scythia_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_scythia_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_scythia_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_scythia.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_scythia_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_spain_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_spain_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_spain_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_spain.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_spain_Text_01_Text1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread Introduction_To_Reform_thrace_Thread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item Introduction_To_Reform_thrace_Text_01
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0 
        Threshold  1 
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title Introduction_To_Reform_thrace_Text_01_Title
        Script scripts\show_me\reform_thrace.txt
        Text Introduction_To_Reform_thrace_Text_01_Text1

[Suppanut]

Script for trigger reform description(show me how).

scripts\show_me\reform_roman.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic roman_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_macedon.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic macedon_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_egypt.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic egypt_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_seleucid.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic seleucid_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_carthage.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic carthage_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_parthia.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic parthia_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_pontus.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic pontus_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_gauls.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic gauls_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_germans.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic germans_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_britons.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic britons_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_armenia.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic armenia_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_dacia.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic dacia_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_greek_cities.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic greek_cities_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_scythia.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic scythia_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_spain.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic spain_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

scripts\show_me\reform_thrace.txt

script
    declare_show_me                        ; This is a show me script
    suspend_unscripted_advice true
    console_command event historic thrace_reform
    wait 3

    suspend_unscripted_advice false
end_script

I need people who have knowledge enough to write historical background for each faction specific descriptions such as LucretiusTC, Archbaker, and Zarax as well as adviser responsed text.

I hope it will comeplete soon. If I made something wrong then please correct me.

[Suppanut]

I already PM to ask for some of my friends to help me write the description of reform in historical background part of advisor's show me how messages but still wait for their response that they will help me in this part or not.

Asking Zarax
Roman: Marius' Reform
Carthage: The Liby-Phoenicians
Pontus: Hellenization And Diversity In Anatolia
Armenia: Armenia as The True Heir of The Archimenids
Saba: The Arabs and Arabian Paninsula Before Age of Islam(include roman effort to conquer Arabia Felix)

Asking Archbaker
Scythia: The Rise of Sarmatians
Germans: Effect of Roman on Germans peoples and the Age of Migrations to Come
Gauls: Effect of Rome to The Celtic World & Britannia

Asking Scutarii
Spain: Effect of Rome to Iberian Paninsula

Asking Kara Kolyo
Thrace: Civilization of Dacia
Parthia: Parthia During Era of Empire (upto Sassanid)

Asking LucretiusTC
Baktria: Indo-Greek, The Sakae, and The Yuezhi
Seleucid: Orientalization of the Seleucid Empire
Ptolemaic: The Machimoi and Its Important in Lated Ptolemaic Army
GCS: Greek Cities States and Roman World
Macedonia: Macedonia After Alexander The Great

[Zarax]

I already PM to ask for some of my friends to help me write the description of reform in historical background part of advisor's show me how messages but still wait for their response that they will help me in this part or not.

Asking Zarax
Roman: Marius' Reform
Carthage: The Liby-Phoenicians
Pontus: Hellenization And Diversity In Anatolia
Armenia: Armenia as The True Heir of The Archimenids
Saba: The Arabs and Arabian Paninsula Before Age of Islam(include roman effort to conquer Arabia Felix)

Roman:

- The Late Republic:

The republic's expansion showed the weaknesses of the Polybian era recruitment system.
Longer campaigns often meant falling in poverty for the small landowners that made the bulk of the army and resulted in social unrest.
Marius reformed the army so that now most conscripts comes from the lower urban class and are paid by the generals, meaning more effective armies but with somewhat questionable loyalties. The way for the empire is now paved.

Carthage:

- Liby-phoenicians and colonial expansion:

Carthage's historical reluctance of sending native punics to fight meant that a reliable source of troops had to be found elsewhere.
While locally recruited troops and mercenaries often augmented most carthaginian armies, the liby-phoenicians were always the core.
Meaning more "of mixed parentage" than a strictly ethnic term, this second class citizens' only chance of scaling the social ladder was through the army and in the colonies.
Well equipped and trained to stand up to most enemies, the liby phoenician were the heart of Carthage's colonial empire, guaranteeing military prowess and political stability

Pontus:

- Hellenization And Diversity In Anatolia

While the Pontus Euxinus was always heavily influenced by greek colonists, it's only the Mythridatic dynasty that harnessed the true potentian of the various cultures present in Anatolia.
Melting together hellenic, steppe, celtic, thracian and eastern fighting styles gave Pontus an incredible military flexibility that allowed them to thrive even with powerful neighbours such as the seleucid empire first and Rome later.

Armenia:

- The restoration of the Achmeneid empire

Armenians always saw themselves as the true heirs to the achmeneids as they were one of their most important satrapies and related to royalty.
While the hellenistic influences took their part in military tradition, Armenia strived to appear to be the restorer of the persian empire.
Their usage and evolution of traditional achmeneid military tactics reflects this proud stance and gives them a powerful military machine.

Saba: TBD

[Suppanut]

Thank you, Zarax.

[Zarax]

BTW, descriptions may have a few inaccuracies, feel free to review and correct them.