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    Default Faction Thread - Swiss Confederacy

    All info about Swiss faction you can post here... everyone who post here something interesting will give from me +rep

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    Default Re: Faction Thread - Swiss Confederacy

    I suggest that you make the Swiss Confederacy almost completely unique unit wise. Here is the list that we are using in XIV Century Total War...

    Cavalry
    -Mounted Arquebusiers
    -Mounted Crossbowmen
    -Swiss Sabel Kavallerie: Light cavalry armed with sabers, they make excellent raiders.
    -Swiss Montieri Halbarde: Swiss Cavalry was basically mounted infantry, and used weapons that infantry did.


    Infantry
    -Swiss Pikemen
    -Armoured Swiss Pikemen
    -Swiss Halbediers
    -Armoured Swiss Halbediers
    -Swiss Reislaufer: Elite Swiss Pikemen the best Pikemen in the game
    -Swiss Zweihander: The same as the German unit, but with Swiss uniform.
    -Swiss Gassenhauers: Light infantry armed with various swords and hatchets. They would charge between enemy pikes, and slaughter them in hand to hand combat.
    -Swiss Wachtposten: Swiss guardsmen that accompany important generals in battles, they should use large decorative Halberds.

    Shooters
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    Swiss Archers: The Swiss were one of the last European peoples to drop their archers and use guns, and used the bow well up into the 1600's.
    -Swiss Crossbowmen
    -Armoured Swiss Crossbowmen
    -Swiss Gens de Trait: Up untill the end if the 1500's the Swiss refused to use guns, when they did it was in the form of a small unit called the Gens de Trait, or Shooting Men
    Swiss Hakenbuchse: The Swiss version of the Arquebusier, but they aren't quite as modern as some other versions.

    You can do some changing to the list to make it suit your mod more

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    very nice list has a lot in common with the list i once made for renaissance total war... thought it was never used... i really hope we will see some swiss soldiers that represent the strenght they had in this time.

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    Default Re: Faction Thread - Swiss Confederacy

    I take it you are from Switzerland then, if not you must have Swiss heritage Glad to see someone else appreciates the true warriors of the Medieval Age

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    yeah... i once read in a historical journal that the swiss soldiers were like bears and feared the most all around the world at this time ... makes me proud having such blood running through my veins

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    Default Re: Faction Thread - Swiss Confederacy

    Who in there right mind wouldn't fear them? The Swiss could have ruled all if they wanted to!
    Have you ever been to Switzerland? Sadly I never have.

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    i am from switzerland. a true native and i have travelled many countries but still i think the mountains of switzerland are the most beautiful landscape ever

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    Default Re: Faction Thread - Swiss Confederacy

    Well I have Swiss ancestry, but sadly like I said before I have never even been to Switzerland.

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    Hello

    my English is not very good.
    Have some links and pictures
    I hope that helps.
    I know myself pretty well in the Swiss warfare. So whom did you ask me, canst thou make them. The Problemm is only my English is not very good

    http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_armies_swiss.html
    http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/pdfs/careych6.pdf
    http://www.kriegsreisende.de/voelker/schweizer.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by reisläufer View Post
    Hello

    my English is not very good.
    Have some links and pictures
    I hope that helps.
    I know myself pretty well in the Swiss warfare. So whom did you ask me, canst thou make them. The Problemm is only my English is not very good

    http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_armies_swiss.html
    http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/pdfs/careych6.pdf
    http://www.kriegsreisende.de/voelker/schweizer.htm

    thank you for choosing our forums as place for your first post

    and also thx for this great info +rep , I see you have knowledge but you don't know much English well you can try to share your knowledge in German language if you want to

    Btw some of your links are high renneisance, but our mod is focused on years 1301-1453 so Iam sad but no late renneisance units

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    Thanks for the friendly greeting.
    The Swiss were very conservative, so has not much changed until the Renaissance, down to the clothes.
    In the beginning, the Swiss were still fighting without armor. Later, they used stolen armor of knights. The favorite weapon of the Swiss is the Halberd. The list of Jaguar6 is very good. However Reisläufer are warriors of all types of weapons.Reisläufer = Mercenaries. But there were certainly also offers classical knight in Switzerland. They often fought between the phalanx. The Swiss were often dressed in tight clothes, so that nothing got impede in the phalanx.
    The Swiss fought in the phalanx, they combined Pikemen / Halbediers / two-handed sword and shooters. They pursued an aggressive tactic pounced on their foes

    Armor

    Immobility rather weak armor for legs. Good upper body armor. Open helmet or beret with feathers.

    I hope you understand what I mean
    good link:
    http://www.heretic.faithweb.com/heretic.htm
    http://www.burgruinelichtenstein.de/...161/Ritter.htm

    Battle of Murten 1476 Switzerland vs. burgundy / huge battle paintings:
    http://www.murtenpanorama.ch/spezial...y/index_de.php
    Typical weapons:
    Halberd/Luzerner hammer Pike



    Zweihänder




    Bastardsword/longsword


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    Last edited by reisläufer; February 16, 2010 at 11:48 AM.

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    +rep for this research its indeed very good

    BTW we already did a lot of those halbert types

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    No problem. Your mod scenario I find brilliant.I'm looking forward to the very mod!
    The battle of Battle of Murten image shows the burgundy and the Swiss army this time very well. (10m high 100m long)
    http://www.murtenpanorama.ch/spezial...y/index_de.php

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    Cool! Is the map already done?

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    Thx for feedback guys

    @reisläufer nice find, it will be very helpfull thank you
    @tHE_dArKkniGHT nope the map isnt finished yet, but we have a lot of work already done here

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    Default Re: Faction Thread - Swiss Confederacy

    Bernese Pikemen using schiltrom formation

    BETTER PIKES
    https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...2#post16143112

    THE PIKE WARS HAVE BEGUN!

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    Some pictures from me:








    Greetings from Croatia!
    Last edited by matija191; March 16, 2010 at 11:44 AM.

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    @ matija191

    thank you for sharing all those nice pictures around patria libera forums +rep

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    the Swiss seem to be one of the more unique factions in PL (there are alot) I cannot think of other mods that have done them~ plenty of talk but I do not think I have seen them actually done............

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