Mediaeval Weapons

[Copperknickers II]

I decided to put this in Twcenter because i though the fans might like to see the answer.

Will the european armies feature weapons such as the characteristic medieval weapons such as the hand-and-a-half sword, morning star, flail, mace and polearms such as the billhook, halberd and glaive? I certainly hope that these slightly less commonly known but just as effective and authentic are included. Plus they look cool.

[Lord_Calidor]

Well they say a pic is worth a 1.000 words. So I'm basically gonna write a novel here:





To sum it up: probably.

[jmack]

hopefully you guys might mix wepons im tired of seeing units with just swords. i think it would be acurate to mix some like swords and maces or somethin like that

[Basil 11]

Well they say a pic is worth a 1.000 words. So I'm basically gonna write a novel here:





To sum it up: probably.

haha
nice pics + rep

[Subuatai de Bodemloze]

Good job, only thing missing are Flails... Does the engine even support flails?

Glad to see the Flamberge in there.

[Copperknickers II]

Good job, only thing missing are Flails... Does the engine even support flails?

Glad to see the Flamberge in there.

Flails are possible, but they require a good bit of animation know-how.

On another note, look what i found

[Lord_Calidor]

Hey, don't steal my pics, sir.


Edit: Flails are doable, but they would be stiff, ie. no independent chain & head swinging. Fully functional flails require new skeleton (new bone for flail heads), and besides currently having no clue how to do that, I'm not even sure that M2TW engine could handle it.
Would love to make them, though. Hussites & German peasants without 2H flails are just not right.

[Copperknickers II]

Amod for rtw had flails, ill go and find it...

[Subuatai de Bodemloze]

Amod for rtw had flails, ill go and find it...

That would be a juicy addition if you could find it and get it in to DoTS..

[OTZ]

Weren't flails a little too complicated to be handled by peasants? First they were difficult to make, and second they were just as difficult to master, no?

[Copperknickers II]

Weren't flails a little too complicated to be handled by peasants? First they were difficult to make, and second they were just as difficult to master, no?

Peasants, yes, but knights had a few of them.

[Lord_Calidor]

In fact, flails were developed from farming tools to beat straw or something like that. It was primarily a peasant weapon (like war fork, guisarme, morgenstern, fauchard and the like), however when knights and men-at-arms realised it´s potential to hit enemy even behind shields, they quickly adopted it.

[mayhem87]

what a noob. flail IS peasant weapon :/.. hussites without flails arent hussites at all.

[Copperknickers II]

what a noob. flail IS peasant weapon :/.. hussites without flails arent hussites at all.

There is a difference between a farming flail and a mace-flail (i dont know what its name is)

[mayhem87]

do you think this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_flail
or do you think classic agricultural flail forged with spikes and edges??
Coz i thought that classic one.. hussites used those classic but enhanced with spikes and edges.
That war flail (stick+chain+ball with spikes) was knight weapon

[mayhem87]

I meant this one but with forged spikes - hussite national weapon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flail

[Walkman810i]

Not rly national lol. But yes, Hussites used a simple farming tool, the flail, enhanced with spikes that were added to it.
So final question? Will you add flails in DotS?

[Lord_Calidor]

See post #7.

[Copperknickers II]

See post #7.

So basically all we need to do is find that RTW mod and we will have flails.

[\Vazul's Ghost/]

Awesome models and textures. it will be both great and gritty to see them in action.