Dual Alliances: Diplomacy

[TriforceV]

OOC:
BTW...
Kaizer, you will have until 5 PM EST (less than 5 hours), in order to submit your turn, you can not keep your turn hostage for whatever reason, because it slows the game down considerably.

If you fail to do so, then you will be subbed for this turn.

What I suggest you do is post a turn, and if you want to change it for whatever reason you can edit later to post your improved or changed terms depending on situation.

You have been warned.

[Kaizer Merlox]

Agreed. Please send a diplomat to meet with us Spain, Portugal, and France.

[Decimus Atreides]

To the King of the Portugese,

I am fully aware that I may not be completely up-to-date on your doings in africa (since my info-source there kind of died), and I hope you will take my apologies concerning my presumptive words. I hope however, that you understand I only wished to find a treaty to please us all after recent events, and I thought my proposal was very reasonable to all ends, where it not that you were already dominant over the western part of north africa,

This said. I do not know the terms on which to react now, so please, feel free to explain this to me.

[TriforceV]

To the King of the Portugese,

I am fully aware that I may not be completely up-to-date on your doings in africa (since my info-source there kind of died), and I hope you will take my apologies concerning my presumptive words. I hope however, that you understand I only wished to find a treaty to please us all after recent events, and I thought my proposal was very reasonable to all ends, where it not that you were already dominant over the western part of north africa,

This said. I do not know the terms on which to react now, so please, feel free to explain this to me.

To the King of Spain,

There is no need for an apology, I understand fully your ambitions and you have only earned more of our respects for your handling of the situation upon our absence,

The terms are quite Simple really, I want to retain the holding I have already Captured in Western Africa, and its fair to asses that we want the Moors out of Iberia, which will satisfy the Reconquesta once and for all.

Cordoba will be mine, I feel this is acceptable request, as it will allow me to connect my kingdom with the lands I hold in Western Africa, I also want Granada as a small fort that can serve as our kingdoms defence against invasions or assaults for the East.

Spain you can have anything else of Iberia that is left Murcia & Valencia Zagreb, This will give you access to the Mediterranean Trade routes which will benefit your Kingdom.

As for the remaining land the Moors are allowed to keep it, and if they sign a Vassalage to the Portugal Empire, We will grant them protection from any empire that wishes to take advantage of their empire, It's our word of protection because of their willingness to accept defeat on our terms, This will be their survival, and ensure they never again rise to assert themselves in Western Europe, and create a Buffer between any advance into our lands.

I think this is more then fair.

I think the Moor Sultan has accepted, and if you accept King of Spain these conditions, Then I can also assure you that Portugal & our noble ally France will never cause you any trouble in the future.

- King of Portugal.

[Kaizer Merlox]

King of Portugal.

We are currently under invasion of the Genoa Republic, As our main forces were defeated. We ask for Assistance as soon as possible, As the Genoa Republic will be soon to be advancing on our african eastern after they had destroyed our army there as well. They tried to besiege Palma, but we threw up the defense and managed to break their siege though, this will not last for long.

We only wish now to be in Africa, As our new capital is now Palma Island, Due to Portugese forces are occupying the old capital before major Islam forces went into Iberia, Marraka.

If there is any deal that we could do, Long payments, or such. We could maybe make a deal that would allow us to obtain these? As all settlements are now just small villages, with no real capital city.

Hopefully we can work something out. Until then,

Sultan of the Protectorate of Palma.

[TeutonicKnight12]

People of the court.

The German Empire's civil war rages, but for now. A new emperor has been elected. Heinrich von Nassau. He has drived newly revived colleciton of states, The Holy Roman Empire, and now drives all states into a full war toward lithunia. The Holy Roman Empire's armed crusading force, the Teutonic Knights are assisted the country in a full out invasion.

If france accepts their deal that they have offered us, we wish to welcome our newest allies, the Kingdom of France, as his intentions are as noble and fair as any one could. Genoa though we have broken alliance with your state, as you have joined the war against Sicily, as Sicily did not need any more help as the Venice people were already taking the problem, it shows that you are just trying to steal lands from Venice's Conquest, and we do not wish the same when we conquer some one.

- Emperor Heinrich von Nassau

[garato]

The dark times of regency is over!
The new Emperor rules in Constantinpol...
Also tne new Veliky Knyz of Moscovia and Novgorod appears on the East.
Greetings!
Diplomacy news.Sofia has fallen and became our possession.Alliance with Sicila confirmed.
We are still disscusing about Seljuk's message...
IMPORTANT Message for Knight's Templar!
Out of the complite mess in official papers due to authority's relay,Our order to an army in your area was delayd.Antiochia is under attack now.I must confess this act is not my will and I'm ready to stop the war immediatly,if You will not attack my army.The ships were sent to Antiochia's coast and my army will leave your lands next turn.I hope your wisdom stop a willing of count attacking my forces...Accept that as accident unpremiditated conflict.

[thelord]

I'd like to create an alliance with the new emperor in Constantinople, do you agree? Im Venice btw.

[garato]

My Venecian nobile christhian brother...
All offers like this is better to send by secret personal mail.
You understand what I mean...

[eddy_purpus]

@ Garat0.
i understand your losses of your army... and i want to pay it with coins....
as you know... the turn 13.... wasnt played by me.... i was subbed. .. and i didnt have any action on it.... as to your loss. i will pay it... but hear me... i did not exterminate your army...
its up to you mLord.. Garat0...
cease fire?
amount = 2750 good ?

waiting for your response Garat0...



Diplomatic stance of KT to Byzantine Empire = Reasonable and confused.

[Kaizer Merlox]

As it still is, The Turkish - Templar war was short, and is now over, however if the Romans do want peace, they would not be blockaiding the ports of you're "Crusaders" As this shows the Roman people also seek their lands, and to destroy the crusaders, if they had armies in their lands. The Templars should not pay a single dime, They defeated your armies that were in Antioch, a place where they did not belong in the first place.
Also the demands of the Fatamid / Seljuk empires to break their alliance is also alarming. We will not comply with this, as it is the most absurd demand we have heard.

As for the Moorish Protectorate, We are happy to announce that we will be serving our current Parent kingdom, The Portugese empire, as we have settled the war peacefully, and we have fully evacuated Iberia.

[garato]

To Templars.
Anyway Emperor would accept the money.I loss the best devision of mine on the East.My fortesses are emty -I need to recruit a new garrisons.My ships will stop blockading the port.
To Genova-You message to Emperor is a bit insolent.Are you going to dictate me to whom to trade and to whom should not?If you want to trade you are welcome,but without conditions.
My diplomate have chaged his rout and going now towards Germany.
Polish and venetian diplomats near my townes are welcome to discuss.

[garato]

Veliky Knyz ov Moscovia and Novgorod offers an alliance to Polish Kingdom.

[Nightbringer]

the polish are gladened by this proposal. upon catching sight of your army we worried that violence might break out, for we are marching east, but our actions are again the lithuanians and we humbly accept this offer of an alliance. I hope our people may have a bright future together. we also wish to send an offer of friendship and alliance to the romans. long have you been a bastion of learning and art in these troubled times.

[garato]

To Polish King.
I have the only condition for an alliance.Stop further moving to East. Vilnous is yours but Polotsk town fulls of russian people.This is area of our interest.And my forcies are ready to occupy this province.

[Nightbringer]

we will agree to this proposal, we may continue our conquests to mensk but will turn it over to you if you feel it is in your domain. we will likely move south and eastwards towards kieven rus.

[garato]

King of Poland! Kievans are my allies!

[Nightbringer]

hm, we had not been aware of that fact, we will of course retract our earlier statement. rather than seeking further war we will consolidate our rightful claims and secure our borders in case of invasion. i hope this misunderstanding will not stand in the way of our friendship.

[thelord]

I have taken Bologna from the HRE, I see no need for you to have it unless you have designs upon the people of Italy, refusing my several generous offers merely increased my suspicions. The offer still stands though, I will happily part with 3500 florins and a ceasefire. Which is extremely fair in my opinion as it only has 3 buildings.

[Kaizer Merlox]

thelord, i think you should think otherwise, because just the fact that HRE has been subbed, changed people, far more than what you even offered.

Lets face it, HRE / Templars have been subbed / changed since the game has started. it isn't fair to put "refusing my several generous offers merely increased my suspicions" when the player just got there? As it was, Eddy just joined last turn, even then he was subbed.