Jungles around Jerusalem and Constantinople

**Atilla** · August 22, 2008, 12:18 PM

Is there a submod out there that fixes jungles to desert/arid landscapes around Jerusalem and Constantinople?

**Bacon!** · August 22, 2008, 01:03 PM

I'm not sure about Constantinople, but do you mean why is Jerusalem a grassy map?

I think its supposed to be like this so its not a bug so no fix for a problem that dosnt exist

. Maybe Jerusalem is really like that anyway, i dont have a clue just trying to come up with a solution. Anyway i dont think there is any mod out there sorry

**Atilla** · August 22, 2008, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bacon!

I'm not sure about Constantinople, but do you mean why is Jerusalem a grassy map?

I think its supposed to be like this so its not a bug so no fix for a problem that dosnt exist

. Maybe Jerusalem is really like that anyway, i dont have a clue just trying to come up with a solution. Anyway i dont think there is any mod out there sorry

That's a shame... The battle map around is clearly a jungle and not grassy plains. And I've been to Jerusalem and the climate there is near arid.

**Oddball_E8** · August 22, 2008, 02:33 PM

yeah but the question is... WAS it arid back then?

**Atilla** · August 22, 2008, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Oddball_E8

yeah but the question is... WAS it arid back then?

It sure wasn't a jungle.

**Oddball_E8** · August 22, 2008, 06:35 PM

i know... just pulling your leg

but honestly, i dont know how to fix it... ask one of the mapper guys... im sure they know what decides how the battle terrain looks like...

**Quark** · August 23, 2008, 04:01 AM

This period in european history is marked by a 'Warm Period' where grapes could be grown in northern England. I don't know about Jerusalem, but Thrace would have been maked by deep forests and plentiful streams. I am not sure about the exact nature of the trees around Contantionople, but I would have expected palms.

As to visually, I can only say I have had some of my most scenic battles around Constantinople and I enjoyed the terrain.

**Ftmch** · August 26, 2008, 06:23 AM

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=187262

Just found this topic, enjoy

**Caesar Clivus** · August 26, 2008, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Quark

This period in european history is marked by a 'Warm Period' where grapes could be grown in northern England. I don't know about Jerusalem, but Thrace would have been maked by deep forests and plentiful streams. I am not sure about the exact nature of the trees around Contantionople, but I would have expected palms.

It wouldn't have been the lush, tropical jungle that now surrounds Constantinople in SS though. For the Basiliea ton Romaion submod, we've changed the terrain to mediterranean. It looks a lot more realistic than lush, south american jungle

**dopp** · August 26, 2008, 09:09 AM

I like the jungle though. This way, I can take a stroll on the beach between fighting off rampaging Crusaders/Mujahideen. Wish I could build a tourist resort to distract them.

**KaerMorhen** · August 26, 2008, 09:22 AM

Jungles??? I've always thought it was forest

**Quark** · August 26, 2008, 09:27 AM

Caesar Clivus
:hmmm:you must have different graphics to me, I have loose palm like trees and grass, no deep amazon forest, dense jungle, savvana plains full of termite mounds etc.

Have not found any reference to the actual terrain around 12th century (apart from forested hills), but imagine fair amount of farms, dates, vineyards, and lumber mills.

I always liked the look of the terrain, its the 'prettiest' in the game.

**AnthoniusII** · August 26, 2008, 10:20 AM

Still jungle is far unrealistic!
The "real"terain would be a grass land with low hills around and full of farms and small villages....:hmmm:

**Atilla** · August 26, 2008, 04:45 PM

If any of you are interested, I made a submod correcting climates so you won't have south american tropical forests in and around jerusalem and constantinople. I also made changes to Balkan and Italian peninsulas to rid the arid, palmtree forests. If you are not a fantasy buff and such inappropriate climates bother you, visit here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=187262