[M2TW AAR] As promised: Retaking Europe Whole From the Timmy's

[Dunecat]

I was banned a while back, and when I was, my AAR was deleted... though it was fabulous.

Well, as promised, I have FINALLY gotten back to it... not finished of course... Sadly I work alot, but sometime tommorrow I'll restart posting...

Here's a preview:



Yes, that is the Russian Invasion fleet right before D-Day.

Yes, all that resists the Tims are the English, the byzantines, and myself. The spanish are the tim's es, and the mongols are about to die out really... but they have not so far...

Oh, and if you're wondering what it's like fighting armies of elephants on VH:



There's your answer.

[Musthavename]

Holy crap. That map is just... unreal.... +rep for that alone.

Also, the Byzzies travelled to the new world? Or did you just give them a province?

[Dunecat]

Holy crap. That map is just... unreal.... +rep for that alone.

Also, the Byzzies travelled to the new world? Or did you just give them a province?

Long story... Being many thousands of years, you can expect that... but let's say, before the Tim's steamrolled europe, me and the byzantines were buddies... I kept them alive...

Now they control my former capital and many greek islands, as well as the northern new world.

In any case, let me just say that AFTER dday goes to plan, everything goes awry.

Many, many loss screens await.

Basically, I'm banking everything now on the invasion of egypt... If I can't get that (which, let's be honest, I won't- I've got 5 stax, the Tim's have 15 built up waiting for me), I'll be set back a few hundred years... IDK what I'll do.

Probably start the process all over, except this time wait THOUSANDS of years until I amass MILLIONS of dollars where I can then truly have a MASS LANDING across western europe.

*Sigh* I've been playing this map for 6 months...

[Watercress]

just scout out a stack free area to start, and pray they wont come.

[Shadow8]

wow... how long into the campaign was that, HOWD YOU GET THAT TO HAPPEN!!

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

This is madness!
Good God, I'll have to subsribe to this thread!

[Benz282]

Since most of the map is revealed to you, but FoW is still on, I have to ask whether you gifted the provinces to the timms or you actually lost them one by one to their invasion (and if so, whether or not it was intentional).

PS, if you do end up having to make a new force, I really suggest using the add_money cheat. It'll really just save you some time (seeing as the new world is probably already built up), and hell, it isn't like we're going to flame you for cheating!

[Graf zu Adler]

Yeah, with an enemy like that, cheating is understandable...

[Benz282]

Yeah, with an enemy like that, cheating is understandable...

I only meant that he cheat to save himself time and avoid having to press "end turn" 200 times, but I suppose "auto_win me" would help quite a bit here

[Graf zu Adler]

This is madness!

Nope

I only meant that he cheat to save himself time and avoid having to press "end turn" 200 times, but I suppose "auto_win me" would help quite a bit here

Indeed....that would help! But I use add_money too, sometimes, when I'm on the way to win a campaign, but the pope annoys me and I have to buy him off (only one example)

[Dunecat]

The Tim's have rebuilt their navy... Italy is lost... Spain is lost... and when Spain falls, so does my Africa.

...*Sigh*

...Every battle is an hour long slugfest where we each lost all of our men virtually. There is.... No hope...

I'm about a hundred turns ahead of the latest screenshot... And though things did once look dandy... Now they are more realistic... I must gift America to Spain to keep them alive (as the byz can never keep it settled. BTW their capital is carribean!!! lol)

England is weakening... they no longer can cross the channel, as the Tim navy is simply too massive, even with the simplest of ships... There must be at LEAST 50 Tim ships in and around the english channel.

Aaaaaand the mongols just chill in Finland, as they have for the past 400 turns. Meh.

I absolutely refuse to cheat... I'm playing a smaller unit size, which gives elephants a HUGE advantage as it is, as russia, a huge disadvantage, and never have cheated yet... it would be silly to cheat, though it is SO tempting.

P.S. I think why my FOW map is like that is I once asked the Tim's for map information... If my memory serves me right, 3 months ago I controlled northern italy and had wanted to take a breather from war...

The Tim's did not see it my way for long, of course.

Will update when I can hook my laptop to a connection, and when I'm not sleep deprived and or eating macncheese and or seeing Tropic thunder and or drunk.

[Zhangir]

HUrray! Timurid power!))))))

I'm about a hundred turns ahead of the latest screenshot... And though things did once look dandy... Now they are more realistic... I must gift America to Spain to keep them alive (as the byz can never keep it settled. BTW their capital is carribean!!! lol)

England is weakening... they no longer can cross the channel, as the Tim navy is simply too massive, even with the simplest of ships... There must be at LEAST 50 Tim ships in and around the english channel.

Aaaaaand the mongols just chill in Finland, as they have for the past 400 turns. Meh.

Good god, this is so so Funny )))))) hahahahahahha
Byzantine carribeans
Mongols in Finland??? omg... ridiculos )))

[Dunecat]

I actually can't remember how the Mongols got to finland, as they only occupied turkey, and were decimated first by the Tim's.

How did the Mongols get finland?

[Benz282]

I actually can't remember how the Mongols got to finland, as they only occupied turkey, and were decimated first by the Tim's.

How did the Mongols get finland?

Teleporters

[Dunecat]

I am so sorry, but I have to use another computer, one that has an internet connection...

Tommorrow, if I'm not hungover, I'll compile my post and image files on a jump drive to transfer to this comp.

A mini-update: The invasion of egypt failed. two full stacks of cavalry were lost, traded for 1.5 stacks of elephants, archers, and artillery. I won, but barely... the field battle was very tough. My king died, my prince rode around chasing amok elephants with only 1 bodyguard (he was controlled by the comp). Quite fantastic really...

Anyway, two army stacks made it out of egypt and fled, but only to attack elsewhere... And that you'll find in the real update, though the story is not over yet...

Let me just say... Since I cannot let Spain fall to tyranny, I MUST make them uber. I MUST donate EVERY province I conquer further to them. Screw the papals state and their italy. Screw the Byzantines and their anatolia. I am tired of gifting 100's of thousands of florins to fund their war effort- I must make them self-sufficient.

But then again, we wouldn't want them to grow too strong now, would we...

Oh, and the Tim's counterattacked and are invading africa with their eastern collection of armies. It all comes down to the eastern shoreline mountains. We MUST hold the elephants back with artillery, but HOW to get the cannons there in time!? The faction here is practically dead meat with a tired torn cavalry...

*EDIT*- I got my files transferred! First update within the hour: How the Timurids Conquered Europe.

Second update: How I ed Around to Gauge Their Strength

Third update: D-Day; the Liberation of Spain and Italy, and their Subsequent Fall

Fourth update: Spain's Update: It's Dogged Resistance and Eventual Triumph

Fifth Update: The Formation of the Northern and Southern Alliances; The New Hope (How England and Spain Free Foreign Lands from the Timurids)

Sixth Update: ???

[Dunecat]

UPDATE 1

So. It begins.

I originally intended just to mess around... Pass the time while I was locked inside to escape the spring heat wave. Still sweating like a pig, I closed the door to my single and turned on my laptop.

A simple trade republic. A funny one... Called the Holy Free and Just Orthodox Trading Empire or something too long. I've done neorussia migrations before... I was the second or so to make an (incomplete) AAR out of one, so I decided that for old times sake, I'd do another, but this time, for Rhodes, and not to conquer the world.

Originally.

However as time wore on, with me protecting the Byzantines, keeping them from going extinct, and trying to prevent any one European power from getting too big (Poland was my main concern), I overlooked one faction: the Tim's. I assumed they would fizzle and settle, as the Mongols did.

>.>

Now before we begin, let me state that I barely remember all events: this took place months ago, and much has taken place in my life. For some things, your guess is as good as mine (such as how the Mongols acquired Finland...).


So it begins... I find Rhodes, take it, and defend it from Venetian aggression several times.




When the Venetians start kicking my friends the Byzantine's ass, I myself go into ass-kicking mode to fight on their behalf.


Damnit, go away.



Better.


More ass-kicking, map updating (that's really why I post these screens, so ya'll can check the campaign map). I needed money, so I figured, "HAY!", why not Egypt?


Mongols invade lul.


They're here!!!!!


I defended this place a LOT. This was what held back the horde for a while... fantastic terrain, really. OH, and I start to fight the Polish, occasionally gifting lands to the Byzantines to keep them alive (they were barely...).




Lul.




Ones I saved.


A queer autoresolve.


oh ****.


OH ****!


OH****OH****OH****OH****OH****


The Tim's grow stronger.


Stronger...


Crap.


What the...


Maybe I should intervene...


...

I am so ed.

I have nothing to say for the following, really... *Sigh*









Things get so bad... I just can't control my capital anymore. Rhodes is unmanageable. I was forced to get rid of it...


And thus... I was out of Europe, and all that resisted the Tim's were the English... Occasionally...

Sorry I didn't take more or better screens... I didn't really expect this to snowball into what it became: an obsession.

[cfmonkey45]

I think that the best strategy for you is, instead of conquering mainlang Europe, or at least trying to, you should invade the British Isles, as their elephants seem to be afraid of water.

After that, you could probably build up a large enough thalassacracy (oceanic empire), that you might be able to raid certain portions of the Timmurids... sack and burn, that whole thing... grab enough money to build up your settlements until you can amass a landing force. Perhaps you should concentrate on something isolated, like Scandenavia, and just have ships block the green arrows, and sub-saharan Africa... just block the narrow route to timbuktu and mass merchants on the gold mines there. But, good luck in your endeavors.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Now I might be wrong, but this should the most shocking start of an AAR in the history of the world! Well done, +rep!
What is your plan anyway to deal with that Timmy superüberpower? It is impossible to beat them!

edit: just noticed that the naval invasion bug is still working on M2TW!

[Dunecat]

Damn elephants... So broken...

If it wasn't for the elephants, NONE of this would have ever come to pass. Europe would not fall, and even if it did, retaking it would be easy as pie.

[TheTrueGreek]

i dont think anyone can come up with a more hopeless aar, you arnt just stubborn, you are like 7 levels past obsesion, id've quit once i saw the evil timmy taking the middle east and spreading, they look like a case of the plague