[quote=Beren Erchamion;3576725]The difference is that Russia didn't fight to save Europe.[/qoute]
Motive, whatever it was, does not mean that the USSR failled to save western arse, or that US different motive was superior in doing so either.
Well stalin was pretty clear that he required buffer zones to prevent any chance of further conflict, Russia had rearly started european wars in its history.They fought to dominate Europe. Did they give East Germany back to the Germans, or Poland back to the Polish, or Czechoslovakia back to the Czechs? No, they dominated those countries and forced them under the Iron Curtain.
It may bea cultural US thing, but the US secured for intself world domination in economic terms for its efforts, and an end to Uk and others colonial ambision and practice, oh and you were not shy in asking everyones to pay in gold for the LL, and when that ran out, clip on a nice % rate for the rest we owed. Not that i mind, it was after all that or extermination under the nazi system for me.What did the Americans do after we defeated the Germans? We gave France back to the French, and, as Colin Powell put it, we never asked for anything but enough land to bury our dead.
Ok, we dont havea drug/music culture of our own, we have a US one is what i ment, the jamaician was a minor thing in the 50 and 60s.I don't think the US music and drug culture is a whole lot different from modern Europe. And a citizenry that sits back while the government takes away its weapons is much more to be despised than one that refuses to give government that kind of power.
You dont seem to realise that the right to bear arms exist for a purpose, in the UK stsyem the Monarch can call on all englishmen to arm themselves and come to the aid of the crown, other than that its regulated by law, i can ask for alicience for a shotgun or firearm etc, and we gave this right to not shoot each other down at will in exchange for police and mil protection and system of checks and balances to be governed by laws that are just and equatable, in the USA you went with the governemnt cant be trusted and chose to acept the 17000 dead a year that fredom cost you, compared toi under 300 in the UK for all gun crimes casualtys, in europe when 17000 die, we call it a war, in the US its the price of fredom and gun conytrol and frankly, any governmemnt that cannot control its people any better has rathera lot of problems, just like the Uk did with the Scots when we abolished the right to bear arms as they hada habit of killing englishmen with them for past grievences rather tha use the courts system.
I remind you of Justcie Jackson, it not for the citizenry to fear the governmnet, it is for the governement to fear the citizenry, could use him on the USSC at presnt methinks.