Can't Save/Load

**Darpaek** · August 07, 2008, 09:06 AM

I am having the save/load problem others seem to have had - where the buttons are greyed out and no autosave happened.

I've tried the workaround - to quit to the main menu and load a new campaign, then to click the next turn button - but it still doesn't work. The "Show Me How" button on the advisor is greyed out, too.

I installed a new copy of BI 1.6 and loaded the mod onto that installation. Somehow, I have an autosave and it loads a Macedonian game on the first turn. If I load the Macedonian autosave, the save/load buttons aren't greyed out, but if I quit back to the main menu and load a new campaign (I'm trying to play Rome), the save/load buttons are still greyed out when I load the new campaign.

Am I missing something? Can someone help me out, please?

Thanks!

**Darpaek** · August 07, 2008, 12:18 PM

If I load with another faction (for example, I tried starting a new campaign with the Galatians) and I click the End Turn button, then I am able to save/load normally - as per the workaround in the FAQ.

However, after I quit back to the main menu and start a Roman campaign, I click End Turn and I still can't Save/Load - even though I was able to with a non-Roman faction.

Can someone help, please?

**Darpaek** · August 07, 2008, 01:10 PM

Alright, I tried starting a new campaign with the Britons and had the same problem I had with save/load with the Romans. So, I guess this problem is faction specific.

Is there another 4tpy mod I can install over this version that might work? Like the old one that wasn't automated (ie - had to click "Show me How")?

**Jamey** · August 07, 2008, 01:16 PM

Have you tried exiting RTW, restarting it, and then immediately starting a new Roman campaign?

**Darpaek** · August 07, 2008, 01:25 PM

Yup. Didn't work.

Here's another oddity. When I start with the Galatians, it looks like the advisor peeks in, but doesn't say anything and immediately goes away. When I click on a city the advisor pops out fully and says it is 280 BC. I can save normally.

However, when I load with Rome the advisor automatically pops out saying its 280 BC (ie - I don't have to click on a city). However, I can never save.

**Jamey** · August 07, 2008, 02:03 PM

I don't have any good ideas. Since I'm at 245 BC in my Roman campaign and have saved many times, this isn't a universal problem. :hmmm:

I think this one's going to have to be handed off to those who know scripting. We're well outside my area of expertise.

**HouseOfHam** · August 07, 2008, 05:44 PM

I'll do a bit of testing to see if I can replicate the problem.

**HouseOfHam** · August 07, 2008, 08:07 PM

Tried Romans, Britons, and Galatians, all worked fine for me.

Originally Posted by Darpaek

Yup. Didn't work.

Here's another oddity. When I start with the Galatians, it looks like the advisor peeks in, but doesn't say anything and immediately goes away. When I click on a city the advisor pops out fully and says it is 280 BC. I can save normally.

However, when I load with Rome the advisor automatically pops out saying its 280 BC (ie - I don't have to click on a city). However, I can never save.

Short version: You exited from a game back to the main menu and started a Galatian campaign without restarting the game.

In-depth analysis: The background script from the previous campaign was still running, with declare_show_me setting active, so when the new campaign script ran the advance_advice_thread 4tpy_Thread line, it opened automatically (normally, it wouldn't), then

Code:

select_ui_element advisor_portrait_button
simulate_mouse_click lclick_up

lines immediately closed it. Clicking on a town started a new copy of the background script, like it would for a saved game.

Can you give a little more information about your system and settings? Like, what hardware and os you have and what graphics/campaign settings you use.

To Quinn:

1) If you change(d) the starting population size or garrison size in any of the settlements checked in the UnitSize_script.txt, you'll also need to recalculate and update the GarrisonToPopulationRatio boundary values there.

2) I'd like to make a couple changes to the background script to address some issues with reloading saved games. Were any changes made to it since 3.3.3? If so, could you send me the latest version?

**Quinn Inuit** · August 07, 2008, 08:43 PM

1) Oops. I think I forgot to do that with the latest German change. Let me double-check them.
2) I've made a couple of minor changes. I'll send you the newest version.

**HouseOfHam** · August 08, 2008, 12:45 AM

The problem with Save/Load options staying grayed out seems to occur when you start a new campaign, then exit back to the main menu and start another new campaign. Restart the program as a work-around.

**Delvecchio1975** · August 08, 2008, 04:37 AM

i had the exact same problem yesterday! what worked for me was, when the advisor pops up telling you the year, click the advisor (not the X)! after that i was able to save ....

**HouseOfHam** · August 08, 2008, 11:42 PM

Someone who's having this problem, try this:

In ExRM\Data\world\maps\campaign\barbarian_invasion\UnitSize_script.txt (or imperial_campaign\UnitSize_script.txt, if you don't have BI), near the end of file, change...

Code:

wait 1
console_command clear_messages
wait 1
advance_advice_thread 4tpy_Thread
wait 1
select_ui_element advisor_portrait_button
simulate_mouse_click lclick_up

while I_CompareCounter blib = 0
end_while

... to ...

Code:

while I_CompareCounter blib = 0
end_while

wait 1
console_command clear_messages
wait 1
advance_advice_thread 4tpy_Thread
wait 1
select_ui_element advisor_portrait_button
simulate_mouse_click lclick_up