Most Powerful Tank of WW2

[christof139]

I wonder where would most useful tank debate lead?

There already is another thread aobut that here named 'What was the best tank of WWII?', or something similar.

Chris

[christof139]

With just a very slight correction I think that there was 85 of them produced (like a said not a great difference)

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz12.htm

"In the Summer of 1945, US Army tested captured Jagdtiger, which was able to penetrate frontal armor plate of M26 General Pershing at 2100 meters"



While I do agree this was nowhere near the norm, though with the severe amount of engagements and shells fired throughout the war, Im not too suprised about some of the things from the very reputable Achtung Panzer website

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/panzerj...sd-kfz-164.htm

"It is reported that in early March of 1945, Lieutenant Beckmann from sPzJagAbt 88 destroyed Soviet IS-2 at the range of 4600 meters near Marzdorf."

"Some Nashorn crews reported that they were able to knock out Soviet T-34 tanks at distance as great as 4000 meters. Nashorn crews also reported numerous kills of KV and IS-2 tanks as well as SU-152, ISU-122 and ISU-152 assault guns."

I highly recomend the Achtung Panzer website for its critically researched website, and their forum if you wish to discuss anything about ww2 tanks.

I've been there and many other sites and forums and have read very much over many years. 2kms is very feasible, 4.6km is stretching it a bit and a shot from that range would have to hit above the road wheels of a JSII or on its top such as on top of the engine compartment at a decent angle allowing penetration. Seems a hit at 4.6km against the narrow upper side of the hull or the turret would not be a penetration.

Even MkIV's knocked out the Su's and ISU's at close range, so the fact that Nashorns did is nothing new.

Maybe you might want to take a reality check.

Chris

[christof139]

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Originally Posted by christof139
As for lucky shots and the one you are speaking of in North Africa, I believe a Stuart with its 37mm knocked out a Tiger I with a lucky shot jamming the Tiger I's turret traverse, and then the Stuart maneuvered around to the rear of the Tiger I and blasted the rear engine compartment plate and knocked out the engine."

That should be it perfectly preserverd Tiger present in museum today
Currently present in Bovington Tank museum, turret number 131, captured Tunis 1943

That's the one eh. Great pic. I've seen some Bovington pics before, but never went there. Thanx for the pic!!!

Chris

[czePowerslave]

Cheers ya welcome
IM planning to one day visit all these museums to photograph the tanks.

But about the penetration from 4,6km, Nashorn had a powerful cannon, and yeah, not really new thing, Germans tried to use their superior range all the time.

[christof139]

Actually, from late mid war on German panthers, MkIV's, and Stug's and others besides the Tigers were ordered to hold ther fire on the Eastern Front until the enemy was less than about 700 or 800 meters away, in order to save ammo and be more accurate in fire and have better penetration.

Chris

[wannaleadguitar?]

i say the panzer was pretty good but the king tiger was the best.

[gsoxx]

i say the panzer was pretty good but the king tiger was the best.

Now that makes perfectly no sense.

Best British tank:

[christof139]

Ha ha ha!! Yeah, Cuckoo (or whatever) the Panther.

Chris

[Rapax]

Oh well, since we're at it, best french tank:

[gsoxx]

Oh well, since we're at it, best french tank:

Huh?

Maybe you mean the:

French Army Vespa



*shells not included

(ok ok its a post war design and therefor superior)

[wannaleadguitar?]

is the persing or king tiger tank the best?

[Rapax]

Huh?

Actually I posted a picture of a Panther used by the free french forces. No idea why it's not shown.

[gsoxx]

Actually I posted a picture of a Panther used by the free french forces. No idea why it's not shown.

Nevermind, I've got a similar picture.

Best French tank:

[czePowerslave]

Now someone put in a picture of German T-34 and we are complete in the matter

[I am Dvor]

The best WW2 Tank was the Soviet T34/85 probably

[gsoxx]

Now someone put in a picture of German T-34 and we are complete in the matter

Ok ok, since Germany won this war I give you an actual pic:

[Guderian's Duck]

Interestingly enough, Guderian advocated just outfitting Panzer divisions with captured T-34/76s early in the war. Guderian's opinions never were very popular with the general staff though...

[czePowerslave]

The best WW2 Tank was the Soviet T34/85 probably

Thread not about best, but most powerful

[christof139]

Interestingly enough, Guderian advocated just outfitting Panzer divisions with captured T-34/76s early in the war. Guderian's opinions never were very popular with the general staff though...

The Germans used hundreds of captured Soviet tanks and AFV's. Even the Waffen SS were issued refurbished T-34/76's.

Old, old and well documented news.

Most powerful tank (not SPG or TD) of WWII was the King Tiger, next would be the JSIII, the JSII then Pershing probably.

Chris

[czePowerslave]

JS III still questionable about seeing combat.