Warg presentation ?

[Varjon]

Orc archers on wargs sounds good and should be included in this mod. Though in reality it wouldn't work, you can see in the movies that riding with a warg wasn't very balanced so it'd be hard shoot with a bow from warg's back.

[The Big Red 1]

Not if the wargs are still.

[Mithrandir]

Remove the "Shooting Circle" skill, problem solved :

[Kip]

Mounted Warg Archers are feasable, but they should be simulated reasonably in game. The bucking motion of the wargs on the move (See the Two Towers) would make it extremely difficult to be accurate, and orcs aren't super-accurate to begin with.

This could be represented by either making the unit less accurate (is this possible?) or decreasing the ranged attack to simulate lowered accuracy.

I feel this should be done to keep Mordor or Isengard armies from fielding full-stack mounted archer armies, when the films and books clearly portray them as infantry-heavy.

[Mithrandir]

This could be represented by either making the unit less accurate (is this possible?) or decreasing the ranged attack to simulate lowered accuracy.

You can do both.

[Kip]

You can do both.

That's perfect. If a mounted warg archer unit is implemented, I would like to see them as a harrassment tool rather than a battle-winning weapon. IE warg archers shouldn't be able to win battles single-handedly, and in fact, I'd like to see them much better suited to melee and have their ranged attack be almost an afterthought.

[Mithrandir]

That's perfect. If a mounted warg archer unit is implemented, I would like to see them as a harrassment tool rather than a battle-winning weapon. IE warg archers shouldn't be able to win battles single-handedly, and in fact, I'd like to see them much better suited to melee and have their ranged attack be almost an afterthought.

Agreed!

[The Count(er)]

almost like a hybrid unit except melee is better and archery is worse

[Kip]

almost like a hybrid unit except melee is better and archery is worse

Yep that's exactly what I was thinking.

[Mithrandir]

Let's just hope the team agrees, which I think they will.

[whitewolfmxc]

This is outrageous ! how could you say the "team" (not the mod) when me White wolf isnt consulted ! XD im master of wolf like creatures XD

But i agree too XD woot XD

(Although i think the archer warg rider wouldnt have a melee attck but instead a spear throwing attck , so its a perfect skirmish unit but cant go into melee XD)

[Darth Ravenous]

I like it alot.

[The Sixth Wizard]

How about they can only shoot while stationary?

[Mithrandir]

How about they can only shoot while stationary?

That's what I think.

[Mithrandir]

(Although i think the archer warg rider wouldnt have a melee attck but instead a spear throwing attck , so its a perfect skirmish unit but cant go into melee XD)

I disagree, all units should be capable of melee, and in the case of warg archers, they should be better at it than they are at firing arrows.

[Lupu]

For horsearchers you then need to remove the "shoot without orders" ability, I think(if it's even possible)

[Blacknight_1990]

Warg archers should be reasonably good at melee fights. The archer can use a short sword or a dagger and the Warg will bite.

[Kaas]

Warg archers should be reasonably good at melee fights. The archer can use a short sword or a dagger and the Warg will bite.

Is that possible?

[ccllnply]

No its not

[The Count(er)]

what if you changed the attack animation so instead of a sword being slashed a warg bites it may be possible then