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    I would like to add Rohan too, and take out the Dwarves. They wouldn't suvive as a Horde.

    Also I think that for Isengard once it is defeated, all remaining troops should turn into a stack for Mordor. Because I don't think the Uruk-Hai would call themselves Isengard if Saruman was dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Red 1 View Post
    I would like to add Rohan too, and take out the Dwarves. They wouldn't suvive as a Horde.
    Why not? I think it would be pretty realistic to see hordes of Dwarves marching to war against Dale, or the Silvan Elves, or even crossing the Misty Mountains to attack the High Elves/Eriador. It would be pretty unique to not fight against a horde of mostly cavalry-units.

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    Also I think that for Isengard once it is defeated, all remaining troops should turn into a stack for Mordor. Because I don't think the Uruk-Hai would call themselves Isengard if Saruman was dead
    I think they would. The Uruk-Hai of Isengard where subject only to Saruman, seering that he perfected them. I personally would love to see Isengard as a horde, but I would have no real problem with having their armies go to Mordor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iustinianos View Post
    Why not? I think it would be pretty realistic to see hordes of Dwarves marching to war against Dale, or the Silvan Elves, or even crossing the Misty Mountains to attack the High Elves/Eriador. It would be pretty unique to not fight against a horde of mostly cavalry-units.



    I think they would. The Uruk-Hai of Isengard where subject only to Saruman, seering that he perfected them. I personally would love to see Isengard as a horde, but I would have no real problem with having their armies go to Mordor.
    I just thought it would be cool if Mordor gains their armies I had nothing wrong with Isengard hording.

    Explain how slow running, mine loving Dwarves are going to form a horde?
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    The Uruk-hai (there are only Uruk-hai of Isengard, the ones from mordor are just Uruks) were rather :hmmm: how to call it, they thought the orcs of Mordor were trash compared to them i don't think they would join them. Also even as still I wouldn't call Rohan nomadic they could /but still in my opinion wouldn't/ become a horde. As for Dwarves they are the only nation who became a horde like in lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerion View Post
    The Uruk-hai (there are only Uruk-hai of Isengard, the ones from mordor are just Uruks) were rather :hmmm: how to call it, they thought the orcs of Mordor were trash compared to them i don't think they would join them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Red 1 View Post
    I just thought it would be cool if Mordor gains their armies I had nothing wrong with Isengard hording.

    Explain how slow running, mine loving Dwarves are going to form a horde?
    It happened before in Tolkiens world. A horde does not necisarelly have to be a cavarly horde. If the Dwarves where driven out of Moria they would probably go to the Lonely Mountain or somewhere else. Hordes of Dwarven infantry would be very realistic to Tolkiens world.

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    Sauron was the first to create Uruk-Hai.
    True. But it is also true that Sarumans Uruk-Hai where stronger then Uruks from Mordor. Saruman perfected them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iustinianos View Post
    It happened before in Tolkiens world. A horde does not necisarelly have to be a cavarly horde. If the Dwarves where driven out of Moria they would probably go to the Lonely Mountain or somewhere else. Hordes of Dwarven infantry would be very realistic to Tolkiens world.



    True. But it is also true that Sarumans Uruk-Hai where stronger then Uruks from Mordor. Saruman perfected them.
    Okay, but it would still seem weird to have DWARF Horde

    No Sauron made Uruk-Hai too just not to the extent Saruman did.
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    Sauron created Uruks not Uruk-hai i think:hmmm: , Uruk-hai was the name given by Saruman to his "version".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerion View Post
    Sauron created Uruks not Uruk-hai i think:hmmm: , Uruk-hai was the name given by Saruman to his "version".
    Yeah, well. They are all Uruk-Hai, it's just that Saruman's Uruks are mostly called Uruk-Hai in the books while Mordor's Uruks are mostly called Uruks. Sauron created them and Saruman perfected them.
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    Well still the main point is Sarumans Uruk-hai wouldn't go to Mordor I guess, unless to take it.
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    I think that the "horde" script should apply to all evil factions, except Isengard. I just don't think they would migrate.

    Dwarves, absolutely. I read up on my Tolkien lore a bit, and they sort of experienced a "diaspora" at one point.

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    Well for an example Harad shouldn't horde. Gondor conquered almost whole Harad and they didn't move away, they became loyal to Gondor, for a while before Sauron poisoned their minds again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varjon View Post
    Well for an example Harad shouldn't horde. Gondor conquered almost whole Harad and they didn't move away, they became loyal to Gondor, for a while before Sauron poisoned their minds again.
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    Alright, Harad excluded, then.

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    What? When did Gondor get any further then close Harad? Far Harad |from what I saw on maps| is about five times bigger.
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    Alerion, I don't quite understand what you mean (firsther?)

    But Gondor did subjugate Harad at one point.

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    I repaired the spelling error already, I meant that Gondor didn't conquer much of Harad.
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    They conquered Harondor, Near Harad and all coastal areas and rest of areas were under control of Gondor because they feared and respected them.

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    I agree yet thats not a big part of Harad, in fact its a small % of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerion View Post
    I agree yet thats not a big part of Harad, in fact its a small % of it.
    like 5-10%
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