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    Default Re: Patria Libera-Prewiew(updated 13TH JUNE Scandinavia-Unit Prewiew)

    *for all player

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    the new units are good keep up the good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giovi View Post
    the new units are good keep up the good work
    Thanks

    And we want some help I want pictures of the finish units
    Last edited by IVIarkI2I; June 15, 2008 at 10:36 AM.

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    This mod is going to be more fantasy then realistic, isn’t it? Enough to take a look at the map and Slovakian roster – Slovakian part of the map is most crowded, and Slovakian units all in plates. You gave you country all the best, but where is the historical truth and justice, where is the good sense? I think this mod will cheer only Slovakian and Bohemians. Poles for example will certainly be disconcerted with this mod.

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    No we make this mod historical here is swedish unit list for example:

    Start era:
    CAVALRY:
    -Mailed Knights ( model from vanilia, but shield from feudal knights ) -- end in 1400
    -Feudal Knights ( vanilia ) -- end in 1400
    -Norse War Clerics -- end in 1450
    -Chivalric Knigts -- end in 1500
    -Finnish CAvalry ( you can using model from scouts ) -- end in 1500

    INFANTRY:
    -Peasant
    -Finish Levy Spearmen ( Shield from norse swordsmen and spear, peasant body, )-- end in 1400
    -Norse Axemen -- end in 1400
    -Dismounted feudal knights -- end in 1400
    -Norse Swordsmen -- end in 1500
    -dismounted chivalric knights -- end in 1500

    Shooters:
    -Peasant Archers -- end 1400
    -Peasant crossbowmen -- end 1500
    -Pavise Crossbowmen -- end 1500
    -Mounted Crossbowmen -- end 1500
    -Crossbow militia -- end 1500

    Late Era:
    Cavalery:
    -Gothic Knights
    ( give them to bohemia, denmark, norway, and all german factions, ) - start in 1415-- end in 1500
    -Lancers -- star in year 1480 in southen faction and france, 1500 in northen, ( all european factions using this formation )
    -Reiters ( conquscadores armor, not upgrade!!, ren sword and pistol ) start in second half of XVI centry

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    Default Re: Patria Libera-Prewiew(updated 13TH JUNE Scandinavia-Unit Prewiew)

    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian_Noble View Post
    This mod is going to be more fantasy then realistic, isn’t it? Enough to take a look at the map and Slovakian roster – Slovakian part of the map is most crowded, and Slovakian units all in plates. You gave you country all the best, but where is the historical truth and justice, where is the good sense? I think this mod will cheer only Slovakian and Bohemians. Poles for example will certainly be disconcerted with this mod.
    Are you familiar with Slovakian history? Are you familiar with Spiss Saxons? Are you familiar with Spiss lancers? And we gave the best? Oh really? Where are the musketeers? Where are the pikemen? Where are the gendarmers? Where are the pavise crossbowmen? Where are the Bazilisk? Where are the mounted crossbowmen? Where?????????
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    Ugh, you eastern European hotheads need to calm down.

    I'm not Slovakian, I'm Swedish, gawd...

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    We are calm donīt worry
    Very good rocking song. The message of the song: WHEN PEOPLE LEARN TRUTH ABOUT UKRAINIAN WAR, THEY WILL GO INSANE!! (I suggest to turn the english subtitles on. Its over 18only because of violent pictures) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAR6nUV7VI

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    I know a bit about medieval Slovakia. This land was ruled by Poland at least among 1003-1018. The Spiss cities belonged to Poland since 1412y. And Poland fought heavily with Slovakian rebellion circa 1440, when Polish king sat on Hungarian throne.

    You gave Slovakia more heavy infantry then vanilla HRE has, which surprise me. Also the way you are arranging the map points you are seriously biased.

    BTW, I think there should not be mounted crossbowmen in Swedish roster, it wasn’t a way Scandinavian fought. If there were such units among Swedish army, they probably were German mercenaries.

    Don’t get me wrong, I sympathize with every central-eastern Europe project, I’m just getting nervous when observing biasing in showing medieval history.

    Good luck.

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    You can work for us if you think that you are good in history every new person in team is welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian_Noble View Post
    I know a bit about medieval Slovakia. This land was ruled by Poland at least among 1003-1018. The Spiss cities belonged to Poland since 1412y. And Poland fought heavily with Slovakian rebellion circa 1440, when Polish king sat on Hungarian throne.

    You gave Slovakia more heavy infantry then vanilla HRE has, which surprise me. Also the way you are arranging the map points you are seriously biased.

    BTW, I think there should not be mounted crossbowmen in Swedish roster, it wasn’t a way Scandinavian fought. If there were such units among Swedish army, they probably were German mercenaries.
    Itīs very difficult to say the Poland ruled the land because there was something like miniprincipalities that times. And Poland ruled northern part of them. As for Polish king. He was king of Poland and king of Hungarian Kingdom as well. As for heavy infantry. I dont think there is too much heavy infantry. There are only units what should be. /Spis Saxons and Spis lancers for example. / I am specialist only and ONLY for Slovakian history so maybe you are right about swedish mounted crossbowmen. I dont know. But SVK Jakob is Swedish maybe he could tell.
    And as for map. I am sure only about cities /territory/ Matthew Csak ruled. Because thatīs part of Slovakian history. I am not sure about the others territories.
    Last edited by SirPeacemaker; June 16, 2008 at 03:45 PM.
    Very good rocking song. The message of the song: WHEN PEOPLE LEARN TRUTH ABOUT UKRAINIAN WAR, THEY WILL GO INSANE!! (I suggest to turn the english subtitles on. Its over 18only because of violent pictures) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAR6nUV7VI

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    Quote Originally Posted by IVIarkI2I View Post
    You can work for us if you think that you are good in history every new person in team is welcome
    I’m already engaged in two projects, so I have to refuse.
    Quote Originally Posted by SirPeacemaker View Post
    Itīs very difficult to say the Poland ruled the land because there was something like miniprincipalities that times. And Poland ruled northern part of them. As for Polish king. He was king of Poland and king of Hungarian Kingdom as well. As for heavy infantry. I dont think there is too much heavy infantry. There are only units what should be. /Spis Saxons and Spis lancers for example. / I am specialist only and ONLY for Slovakian history so maybe you are right about swedish mounted crossbowmen. I dont know. But SVK Jakob is Swedish maybe he could tell.
    And as for map. I am sure only about cities /territory/ Matthew Csak ruled. Because thatīs part of Slovakian history. I am not sure about the others territories.
    Can you pass a link to some articles about medieval Slovakia, I would really like to dig in a bit to know it better.

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    You can read something interesting here for example:

    http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/texascz...s/Overview.htm

    Itīs text from Universitieīs professor Dr.Prof.Matúš Kučera DrSc.
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    great mod so far, i look forward to it, I always wanted to conquer iceland^^

    keep up your great work!



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    We are looking for scripter if you are interesting send me PM....

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    You are doing great progress guys!

    But I see some mistakes on map - in Livonia. As you can see in the 1300 map:
    http://www.euratlas.com/history_euro..._map_1300.html
    all territory of modern Latvia must be included in Order.

    Good luck!

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    Can you specify your suggestion please?
    Very good rocking song. The message of the song: WHEN PEOPLE LEARN TRUTH ABOUT UKRAINIAN WAR, THEY WILL GO INSANE!! (I suggest to turn the english subtitles on. Its over 18only because of violent pictures) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAR6nUV7VI

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    So, I have been watching this mod for a while, and I'm not quite sure how historically accurate it is.

    Firstly, nations like Sweden, Ireland, and Slovak probably did not have the funds or resources to allocate those funds to arm their men so heavily. Perhaps for bodyguards of the rich landlords or barons could afford heavy armour, but to give Slovaks and the Swedes heavy armour for regular soldiers is not very accurate. (e.g. Slovak heavy swordsmen.)

    If you were remaking this for France and Germany or Venice or some other larger nation, than yes by all means, but smaller countries could not afford such luxeries as heavy armour.


    Just my opinion.

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    this post can be deleted
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    Default Re: Patria Libera-Prewiew(updated 13TH JUNE Scandinavia-Unit Prewiew)

    Quote Originally Posted by [SVK]Jakob View Post
    So, I have been watching this mod for a while, and I'm not quite sure how historically accurate it is.

    Firstly, nations like Sweden, Ireland, and Slovak probably did not have the funds or resources to allocate those funds to arm their men so heavily. Perhaps for bodyguards of the rich landlords or barons could afford heavy armour, but to give Slovaks and the Swedes heavy armour for regular soldiers is not very accurate. (e.g. Slovak heavy swordsmen.)

    If you were remaking this for France and Germany or Venice or some other larger nation, than yes by all means, but smaller countries could not afford such luxeries as heavy armour.


    Just my opinion.
    I dont know how about Sweden but in Slovakia there use to be huge source of gold /famous Kremica city for example/ and salt /later silver/. That was an advantage for Matthew Csak for example who could afford to pay his big army. If player will be able to recruit and pay the heavy infantry itīs up to him.
    I dont know about Swedish resources
    Very good rocking song. The message of the song: WHEN PEOPLE LEARN TRUTH ABOUT UKRAINIAN WAR, THEY WILL GO INSANE!! (I suggest to turn the english subtitles on. Its over 18only because of violent pictures) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAR6nUV7VI

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