Population

**Pietrak** · May 08, 2008, 09:10 AM

I wondered, how are you going to solve the problem of population? I mean, that if for example the Elves capture a city that belonged to Orcs, the orcish population will be exterminated or what? It would be stupid if suddenly you could recruit Elves from a population of 200000 orcs.

**deathmaw** · May 08, 2008, 12:23 PM

great question shevd should anwser this

**AnthoniusII** · May 08, 2008, 12:57 PM

Become slaves maybe?
In Silmarilion often discabed such things!

**Code_Knight** · May 08, 2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Pietrak

I wondered, how are you going to solve the problem of population? I mean, that if for example the Elves capture a city that belonged to Orcs, the orcish population will be exterminated or what? It would be stupid if
suddenly you could recruit Elves from a population of 200000 orcs.

Maybe we could exterminate the orc population and replace it with 2/3 of the former population, but with elves. Or maybe 1/2, because Elves are born a lot slower then orcs. Also, when orcs capture an area, will the map ground turn ash in the region?

**deathmaw** · May 08, 2008, 01:54 PM

no not ash but barren like isengard because ash like mordor took years to create mordor was once a lush land

**Code_Knight** · May 08, 2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by deathmaw

no not ash but barren like isengard because ash like mordor took years to create mordor was once a lush land

sort of like the shire when frodo looked into the water that showed him the future of if he failed?

**deathmaw** · May 08, 2008, 02:20 PM

yes that's exactly how it should look or like when treebread saw all the tree's destroyed and went on a rampage

**Code_Knight** · May 08, 2008, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by deathmaw

yes that's exactly how it should look or like when treebread saw all the tree's destroyed and went on a rampage

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all that he saw was a whole bunch of trees cut down. I'm talking about devastation.

**Pietrak** · May 09, 2008, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by AnthoniusII

Become slaves maybe?
In Silmarilion often discabed such things!

In the Silmarilion the Elves did not take orcish slaves. It was quite the opposite

**AnthoniusII** · May 09, 2008, 03:21 AM

Yes but also in silmarilion there were no orcish cities to be captured you know!
The most corect feature would be that the orcs would be emerged faction(like vanilla's mongols)and if the defenders(humans ,dawrvs and elves) would win then an other orcish invation should huppen through some time!
The most corect would to present the civil wars among the elves or among elves and humans/dwarvs!

**King of Axum** · May 09, 2008, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by AnthoniusII

Yes but also in silmarilion there were no orcish cities to be captured you know!
The most corect feature would be that the orcs would be emerged faction(like vanilla's mongols)and if the defenders(humans ,dawrvs and elves) would win then an other orcish invation should huppen through some time!
The most corect would to present the civil wars among the elves or among elves and humans/dwarvs!

there were civil wars between elves ?

**deathmaw** · May 09, 2008, 09:51 AM

many times

**Varjon** · May 09, 2008, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by deathmaw

many times

Actually only two civil wars.

Fëanor killed many teleri elves at the harbor of Alqualondë when he stole some of their ships to lead his people to Middle-earth.

Sons of Fëanor attacked to Doriath at the First Age to capture silmarillion which was owned by Dior the heir of Thingol.

And these were single battles, not really wars.

**Code_Knight** · May 09, 2008, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Varjon

Actually only two civil wars.

Fëanor killed many teleri elves at the harbor of Alqualondë when he stole some of their ships to lead his people to Middle-earth.

Sons of Fëanor attacked to Doriath at the First Age to capture silmarillion which was owned by Dior the heir of Thingol.

And these were single battles, not really wars.

battles that wiped out entire races of elves???........elves are awesome!!!!

**deathmaw** · May 09, 2008, 11:19 AM

these were bloody battles

**Varjon** · May 11, 2008, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by deathmaw

these were bloody battles

Yes, very bloody battles

, but I wouldn't count them as wars.

**Theseus1234** · May 12, 2008, 09:20 PM

couldn't you have the culture system like brittania in kingdoms?
but it would be kind of hard to spread a race unless you purposely deported people to that land before you conquered it

**deathmaw** · May 13, 2008, 12:04 PM

i think they should be exterminated if elves conquer orcs no exceptions

**Pietrak** · May 14, 2008, 02:06 PM

This could be solved by making the Orcs a Horde faction, like in Barbarian Invasion. Orcs simply couldn't occupy cities, and that would solve the problem of their numbers.