Polish Piast Nobles shields

**MIK TG** · May 04, 2008, 11:31 AM

Hi, I find the look of Polish Piast Nobles and their dismounted version shields terrible. The red-white-blue stripes simply look stupid. I doubt if any noble would paint his shield this way. A noble should have his family crest painted on the shield. Thus, I did some searching in the internet and found some interesting Polish crests schemes: http://zamki.res.pl/herby.htm http://www.herby.umk.pl/wystawa/rody/
It would cool to see these on the shields of Polish nobility. Since I don't know how to mode

I'm looking for someone who has some spare time and the skill to do it.

**MIK TG** · May 05, 2008, 01:26 PM

Hm, guess I will have to try and do it myself. Tips on changing shield painting would be appreciated.

**TempestKhan** · May 05, 2008, 03:03 PM

u need photoshop there are about 100 Tut in the mod workshop section

**Caesar Clivus** · May 05, 2008, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by MIK TG

Hm, guess I will have to try and do it myself. Tips on changing shield painting would be appreciated.

I'm currently working on my Novgorod mod but I'll have some spare time after that in which I can have a crack at it if you wish

**MIK TG** · May 06, 2008, 03:18 AM

That would be greate! Thanks Caesar.

**szelbisz** · May 06, 2008, 07:14 AM

The second link shows lithuanian not polish coat of arms/crest/heraldry whatever you can call it. And i dont know why but the first link doesnt show any pictures.

So (while being bored at work) i searched for some links for anyone whou would like to take care of it:
first
There is also some polish guy who has been collecting information about many other coats of arms:
polish
more polish
templar
teutonic knights
maltanese order knights (also known as joannites or hospitalers )

hope this helps

**MIK TG** · May 06, 2008, 09:41 AM

Good work szelbisz

Now we got plenty to choose from. Don't know why you can't open the first link:hmmm:, I have no problems with opening it.

**MIK TG** · May 06, 2008, 02:50 PM

Ok I gathered all the softwar required to do the job

but I can't find the Polish Piast Nobles texture file anywhere

Somebody help!!

**Caesar Clivus** · May 06, 2008, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by MIK TG

Ok I gathered all the softwar required to do the job

but I can't find the Polish Piast Nobles texture file anywhere

Somebody help!!

If it's a vanilla file that is unchanged by SS you'll need to unpack it first using the unpacker tool in M2TW\tools\unpacker. So you dont stuff up your game you'll want to unpack the files into a different directory and you might want to just get the .texture files to save on hard disk space. Use the following in a .bat file to run the unpacker to do this:

Code:

unpacker.exe --source=..\..\packs\*.pack --destination=c:\packs\ --filter=*.texture --verbosity=1

**MIK TG** · May 07, 2008, 07:56 AM

If it's a vanilla file that is unchanged by SS you'll need to unpack it first using the unpacker tool in M2TW\tools\unpacker. So you dont stuff up your game you'll want to unpack the files into a different directory and you might want to just get the .texture files to save on hard disk space. Use the following in a .bat file to run the unpacker to do this:

Code:
unpacker.exe --source=..\..\packs\*.pack --destination=c:\packs\ --filter=*.texture --verbosity=1

And what if my vanilla file is changed by SS? Becouse I got SS 6.0 installed. Can I still open the texture files the way you described? And one more question, what is a .bat file and where can I find one?

Thanks

**szelbisz** · May 07, 2008, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by MIK TG

And what if my vanilla file is changed by SS? Becouse I got SS 6.0 installed. Can I still open the texture files the way you described? And one more question, what is a .bat file and where can I find one?

Thanks

You have to create a .bat file, edit it and put copy/paste this line.

**Caesar Clivus** · May 07, 2008, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by MIK TG

And what if my vanilla file is changed by SS? Becouse I got SS 6.0 installed.

If the vanilla file for the shields has been changed by SS, then it will be somewhere in the Stainless_Steel_6\data\unit_models\attachmentsets directory. If it isn't there, then the game will still used the packed version and you will have to unpack it using the method I described above.

And one more question, what is a .bat file and where can I find one?

You need to make a new text file using notepad in the unpacker directory, copy and past the line of code I posted above and save it with a .bat file. Then double click on the file to run the unpacker.

edit: I just had a look in the attachmentsets directory and I couldn't find the file that the Piast Nobles use so it will have to be unpacked

**MIK TG** · May 07, 2008, 11:44 AM

Done!! thanks

Now I can get to the editing part.

**Caesar Clivus** · May 07, 2008, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by MIK TG

Done!! thanks

Now I can get to the editing part.

Good luck! If you need any help let me know

**MIK TG** · May 08, 2008, 03:46 PM

Just edited few shields, but now they look, well amateur

and fresh painted, I haven't tried them out in the game yet. Do you know how I can make them look a bit "used up"?

**Monthy** · May 09, 2008, 03:40 AM

Hi,

There is already such mod by Burreck... and its great. I think thats DLV use it.

Rany napisze po naszemu, bo jak zwykle mojej angielszczyzny nikt nie zrozumie... Poniżej podaje linki do najczęściej widywanych tarcz na polach bitewnych XV w. w których wykrwawiali się nasi pradziadowie:

My sugestions:
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu.../kosciesza.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu.../herby/lis.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...rby/lubicz.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...by/odrowaz.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...y/ogonczyk.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...erby/pobog.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...y/polkozic.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...rby/pomian.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...erby/poraj.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...erby/topor.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...y/wieniawa.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...by/zagloba.JPG
http://www.rycerstwopodkarpacia.repu...by/zaremba.JPG

XV w ponieważ herby weszły do Polski dość późno... moda z zachodu. Piastowiczowie w zasadzie nie używali herbów, jedynie książęta władający poszczególnymi dzielnicami ale również niezbyt często. Herby weszły do szerszego użytku gdy doszło do ogromnego rozkwitu liczebności domów szlacheckich co miało miejsce za dynastii Jagielnonów dzięki znacznym przywilejom oddawanym przez kolejnych królów.. jak to się skończyło każdy wie.

Zalecam wybranie tych najagresywniejszych i najbardziej "medialnych" oraz wybrać równą ilość poszczególnych kolorów. Generalnie przeważają niebieskie i czerwone tła.

Tu jest link do dorobku Burrecka:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/searc...earchid=343471
Używany przez wielu moderów.

**MIK TG** · May 09, 2008, 05:14 AM

Thanks Monthy

I will inplement few of your creascents, and I realise that this mode won't be historically accurate but the whole unit isn't historically accurate (they should be armed with swords insted of spears).

**Monthy** · May 12, 2008, 07:14 AM

MIK TG,

after Your post I was install Burrek's shield mod in my new DLV 4 Public Edition and... it's work very good!

I made reserch for this mod but I don't find it... so if You want to get it plesa send me Your e-mail adres. I download this mod some months ago.

P.S.
I will make some screen shots some day. I truly have no time to play :/

P.P.S.
Here is some burrek works:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80484